QOTD: Cynthia Nixon Chose To Be A Lesbian
The good gay news today is that soon gays and gayelles will be able to have the rained out, flying fish wedding of their dreams at the Seattle Fish Market, because Washington is inches away from legalizing gay marriage finally. The other gay news that I'm not sure how to wrap the lobes of my brain around is that Cynthia Nixon told The New York Times that she made the choice to slurp on lady clit and fall in love with a woman.
"I gave a speech recently, an empowerment speech to a gay audience, and it included the line ‘I’ve been straight and I’ve been gay, and gay is better.’ And they tried to get me to change it, because they said it implies that homosexuality can be a choice. And for me, it is a choice. I understand that for many people it’s not, but for me it’s a choice, and you don’t get to define my gayness for me. A certain section of our community is very concerned that it not be seen as a choice, because if it’s a choice, then we could opt out. I say it doesn’t matter if we flew here or we swam here, it matters that we are here and we are one group and let us stop trying to make a litmus test for who is considered gay and who is not.Why can’t it be a choice? Why is that any less legitimate? It seems we’re just ceding this point to bigots who are demanding it, and I don’t think that they should define the terms of the debate. I also feel like people think I was walking around in a cloud and didn’t realize I was gay, which I find really offensive. I find it offensive to me, but I also find it offensive to all the men I’ve been out with."
At first, I took her words to mean that she chose to eat pussy the same way a gay person chooses to ignore their gayness by getting with someone from the opposite sex to please society. But that didn't really make sense, so I backed up out of that thought and then figured that she's trying to say who cares if it is a choice. That seemed sort of right, but then the light hit me after I asked myself, "Michael, if the most beautiful lesbian in the world Rojo Caliente asked you to drop the dick out of your mouth and come to the ginger side, would you go?" The answer is a full body FUCK YES! I'd drop that dick (but I'd come back for it afterward), grab my burn cream and prepare my tongue for some chili-crusted red snapper. So what I think Cynthia is TRYING to say is that she's a Rojosexual.
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Only a birdbrain actress would say it's a 'choice'. She's Anne Heching us with her nonsense.
Aren't we all Rojosexual? I know I am. Hey, let the woman define herself the way she wants to be defined. Labels don't always fit the way other people think they should.
If people, gay or straight, bi or whatever, could truly feel free to live as they wished to live without persecution or fetters, then maybe we could all relax about the labels. That's what's important here. Less would be at stake in the labeling if people weren't trying to control one another's sexuality. If people stopped the bullshit argument that being gay is a choice that should be cured out of a person, or that isn't 100% accepted by God, then maybe it wouldn't be such a problem for the rare person to admit that they chose a same sex relationship even when they could have chosen the opposite sex. Most gay and lesbian people could agree that it's not a choice, and there would be nothing threatening about some variation from this rule. It's the persecution and meddling that's the root of ALL this problem.
Rojosexual? Bwahahahahaha....roflmao.
Submitted by Bjork You on Tue, 01/24/2012 - 6:36am.
"Let's dust off some Michel Foucault, Judith Butler, and Eve Kosofsky Sedgwick."
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Oh, HELL no! I am not quite masochistic enough to voluntarily open a book by Judith Butler now that I've finished my Women's Studies requirements. But, I concur.
Professor VP,
I'm 100% heterosexual and I say that sexuality for a lot of folks is fluid.
The thought of going down on a vagina makes me hurl...but I do believe that there are a lot more bisexual people out there than there are 100% straight or gay.
Hell, I get propositioned all the time by queens. Sure they want to hit it an quit it...they're not going to spend any time around the vajayjay....but there is still the idea of experimentation.
And I think bisexuals get shit on quit a bit from the hetero/gay communities.
she's incredibly well-spoken. and, while i've tried to flex my sexuality and it just doesn't happen for me, i think i can safely say that i too am a rojosexual.
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Meh! Do you ever hear real (as opposed to photo op) heterosexuals say sexuality is fluid? Sheesh! It is the same, old tired Gosh I'm Not 100% Gay crapola. If society didn't care so much, put so much pressure on people, especially The Gays, there wouldn't be so much artifice, so much scheming and denial.
Cynthia might be bi- that is possible among females- but she sho' didn't choose it. She can choose to ACT upon it, or not; that is where choice comes in. I'm no mindreader, but maybe she thinks lesbianism is a congential disease, and if she chose it, as opposed to being born with it, it makes it more PC, higher on the food chart.
I think sexuality is a very fluid thing. I don't think most people are 100% gay or 100% straight. I know I'm not! With that in mind, I think some people actually like both sexes equally, and in that sense can "choose" to identify as gay are straight. There are also definitely people, IMO, who are gay or straight and have known it since the day they knew what sexuality was.
I don't want to piss anyone off but this is just how I look at it.
There are so many people who are gay and say that they were born that way (ladyblahblah) and so for the longest time I thought that was true. But now all of the sudden I am hearing from all sorts of people that it is a choice. My hairdresser has a friend who was dating this guy for a good 4 years. She found out he was cheating on her, broke up with him, and then all of the sudden BAM she is on team vagina. & now on FB she posts all of these "come out of the closet" pictures and whatnot. I really don't know if you are born with it or just choose to like the same-sex so who knows. I will never understand and that's OK, I don't really care. As long as people are good & do not hurt others then it's all gravy.
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I kind of knew Cynthia was lesbian way back when she was a kid. Her husband is well rid of her. He deserves to be with a woman who is into him. All you "bisexuals" should grow the hell up and stop using people you do not really desire. BTW. If your boyfriend tells you he is bi that means he is a homosexual who wants the best of both worlds. Guys if your girlfriend tells you she is bi, RUN. It simply means she is not that into you, she is just into living like a parasite off your paycheck.
I think she's right. All sexuality is a choice, look at the work of the Kinsey Institute. I think sexuality is more fluid than people want to accept...gay or straight they want to believe that they are born one way or another and not accept that as social animals we are more defined by our surroundings than by biology.
But it's only a matter of time before she has to issue an apology statement from her PR rep...
But IF she sticks by what she said, kudos to her.
who could deny Rojo...I'm sure she's beyond flattered by the comments
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Snowy- She must have some Brit in her somewhere or ties to Lohan. I remember being skeered by her teefs the first time this picture turned up on here or wherever I saw it once upon a time.
I'm completely ignorant on the subject, and sometimes innocence and ignorance is a huge blessing... so before I put my foot in my mouth, and I am sure I will, I do not mean to offend anyone in anyway, or minimize anyone's opinion or fight. I just want to ask... why does it MATTER if it's a choice or DNA if someone is gay? Why should it matter to anyone. Why do people have to stick their big old noses in everyone's bedroom business? If you have time to split hairs over why someone is gay, you need a life. I'm hetero, and so I have no clue what gay people go thru in their lives, and I don't for a minute pretend that I do... I just believe in live and let live and who fucking cares, we are all PEOPLE trapped on this planet together, I am not better than you, you are not better than me. Let's all hug it out :-)
Cuppy, lol, seriously, is she British!??!! ;p
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Submitted by snowpiece on Tue, 01/24/2012 - 9:49am.
what the hell is going on with Rojo's teefs!!?
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Lohansification?!
what the hell is going on with Rojo's teefs!!?
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"I'm from the New Jersey where we say "AYY! FUCKA YOUA PIZZA PIE!!!" " Sucky
Submitted by tiddlywinks on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 10:27pm.
What I think, for what it's worth...
Honestly, I don't think it matters if it's a choice, or not a choice or what the fuck ever. If that's who she wants to be with, then have at it.
I do, however understand why some would take issue with what she said. If she just happened to fall in love with this person who just happened to be a woman then so be it, and I'm fairly certain that was her argument in the beginning. I seem to remember her basically saying that she just fell in Rojolove but I think she was probably repeatedly questioned about that. The reason she wouldn't say she was bi (which is kinda the essence of what she said) is that being bi would imply that she could easily flip flop and go back to Wang and she doesn't wanna seem like a fair-weather gayelle cause that's insulting to full time ones. I think she's content where she's at, whatever her reasons, but shed do better to respect her audience a little more. She just created a shit storm by trying to be diplomatic and defensive.
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I just ended several years of lurker-dom at this website to say: seriously? THIS SHIT? You think being bi is offensive to lesbians? It's none of your damn business to be offended by. We are who we are, I am who I am, and I'm not going to pretend I don't like dick just so I can fit in better with all my lesbian friends, just like I won't pretend I don't like pussy so I can fit in better with straight friends. It makes me sad to hear ignorant shit about bisexuals from the gay community, most of it's just as bad as the ignorant shit heterosexuals often say and think.
Rojosexual!!! THAT was FUNNY! Michael K, I laughed out loud in my kitchen and my dogs looked at me like I was NUTS. I'm going thru a rough patch right now, a bit depressed, and I needed that! Pure genius... thank you for the funny!
I sure her children are thrilled we her "choices."
I think we all pretty much define our own gayness or degrees of gayness.
let's not forget the bi-sexuals as well, wouldn't that be a choice? I choose on how hot the person is, not the sex of the person. Does that make sense? the hot sex factor...
I would go full out gay for Salma Hayek
I would go full out straight for Antonio Banderas
if someone is sexy as hell and get my private parts all tingly, I don't care if they are a boy or a girl or in between. hot is hot, an orgasm is an orgasm
"Shut up, bitch - it hurts to be beautiful" - Richie K. 2005
Agree with Suzy Farkis and many others. She may fit our 'label' of bisexual but many people don't want to be categorized. Who am I to say what she is? To those who worry that some ignoramus in power could misuse her statement and say "see, it's a choice that can be changed" I also agree with that worry and how it could be a step backward. The more people start worrying about themselves and stop interfering with the lives of others -- the better it will be all around.
*Rojosexual, Rojosexual* hahaha!
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Rojosexual - *giggles*
On topic: I'm pretty sure that there are a lot of people out there living gay but who aren't really gay, but think it's cool to be gay. Then there are bisexuals and heterosexuals and gays. So what?
In Germany gays are quite well accepted, I think, we have no greater issues on that topic, so maybe I don't get the constant american talking about it. BUT: If the gays try to draw attention to it on a daily basis, there will be an outcome like this, because everybody (living in a gay relationship) is entitled to voice their opinion. And gays aren't automatically more intelligent as the other folks - exept MK would clone himself to make about 18% of the world's population... I'm still undecided whether this would be hell or heaven.
I don't have any comment on this post, other than I get tired of people always lecturing me when I make a post to Boston61, but then when other folks here choose to engage it, nothing is said. What gives? Shouldn't we all be able to respond to who we like without someone getting pissed about it? Sometimes, as in this situation, and others, Boston's post are offensive and sick, and need to be responded to.
Good Morning! LOL! I'm crabby today, and the day barely has begun! UGH!
One...giant step...backward....for gaykind.
Cynthia, you and others continue to define yourselves, live your lives, and have happy fucky times while the people who try to define you... don't.
(Her statement is so carefully and well worded, she goes out of her way not to offend and to address every possible angle, including fuckers who might try and twist her words to use against the community, any community.)
Moving away from Cynthia a minute, a person tells you, I ike men and women (the pole and the hole). And you can say, "No you don't, choose one"? You can dictate what turns a person on? What makes them happy? And because you can't understand it, you dismiss it? (And not all people are defined by what turns them on.)
Let's dust off some Michel Foucault, Judith Butler, and Eve Kosofsky Sedgwick. And if opening and reading a fucking book is too much for some of you, how about reading the real-life testimonies of dlisters--folks who some of you dismiss because they don't fit your narrow, stale, ignorant definitions of what gay and straight should be--and opening your heart.
Submitted by TheBreakdown on Tue, 01/24/2012 - 12:14am.
I don't think women are more likely to be bisexual than a man. I believe that general social constructs impress upon men that they cannot give in to same-sex feelings as commonly as women do. I know plenty of straight people that have had gay dalliances/relationships/one-night-stands...whatever you want to call them. It doesn't mean they are bisexual. Like C-Nix said, in a sense you do choose your sexuality, and by that I mean you choose how you act on it.
But fuck that. Who wants to be chaste? I'm fuckin' peens and poons. And sometimes simultaneously.
Go Kinsey THAT!
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Ack, triple post!
Ack, triple post!
I can see her point about others not defining who she is. She's mostly talking about the conservative bigots I think but it happens within the community just as much. I had a friend who started having real relationships with women in university. A couple years later she had a serious girlfriend she was really in love with who dumped her when she found out she'd previously had boyfriends. She told her she was a fraud and my friend was nearly suicidal and kept saying she didn't know who she was. And it was only because of others trying to categorize her so rigidly. The identity aspect is so complex but she would have been fine if the girlfriend didn't have issues about it, she saw her as 'tainted'. That was her prerogative but she lost out as well.
If only she'd met someone like Rojo!
Oh, and later on I was friends with two young gay guys who were very gorgeous. The slightly older one was used to getting whatever he wanted - from anyone - because he was that good looking, and very confident. He called the shots and got on ok because of it. The younger one had moved to Toronto from a small maritime town because he thought he would be able to live more freely. He was more sweet and wide-eyed. He wound up suicidal as well because of the pressures the others in the community put on him to act a certain way, and he couldn't escape it because it's such a tight community, everyone knows your business. I can't imagine how devastating that would be, and he was such a sweetheart it was heartbreaking
Submitted by Twat Muffin on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 8:47pm.
I can't imagine what anyone would find even vaguely attractive about Rojo. I gather her idea of casual chic involves camo cargo shorts, a visor and Crocs. I doubt a stitch of makeup has ever touched her face.
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Does that make Rojo any less worthy of having an attractive mate? Where is this rule written?
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He kinda reminds me of Ron Jeremy, but...not as classy! - Submitted by david Letterman
Besides, it's just marriage! Who in the hell takes that shit seriously? - Michael K
If she likes women why is she with a person that looks like a man?
"No matter how cynical you become, it's impossible to keep up." - Lily Tomlin
GET SERIOUS is correct! Cynthia is not a Lesbo (= good) but she is a fish (= bad, yuck, icky).
We think Rojo , a diesel(= GOOD), should use cynthia and get as much money as possible and then DUMP cynthia before she breaks Rojo's heart.
Since Cynthia is really a fish and not a lesbo, she will dump Rojo as soon as the right man ($$$$$$$$$) comes along.
BTW, we HATE fish!
She could've said, I choose to be in a committed, exclusive relationship with Rojo Caliente. But then, it wouldn't have been all about her would it.
Narcissists PFFFFT.
I'm a day late and a dollar short, but fuck off, Cynthia. You're bisexual. Thanks for giving all the evil pray the gay away folks years-worth of talking points and artificial credibility. Just go diaf.
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YAAAAAAASS! -Sage Khia
This statement by cynthia nixon is a perfect example of why celebrity idiots like her should shut the fuck up. She's not a lesbian; she's bisexual, but is too stupid to understand the difference. Anyone who's truly gay will tell you they're that way from birth; ever since they can remember, they have known that they were different from others. Unlike what braindead dumbass cynthia nixon says, you don't "choose" to join a minority that is downcast, abused & discriminated against by the overwhelming minority (unless you're a complete masochist). Dumbass nixon should shut her piehole & stick to what she does best; making really bad movies about ugly women who are magically desired by GQ dudes...
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Submitted by boston61 on Tue, 01/24/2012 - 12:35am.
Single moms are a national disgrace and a huge embarrassment for the democratic party. You should of stuck with girl on girl instead of sentencing your child to a life without a LEGAL dad. I hope to god you do not try to get responsible citizens to pay your bills.
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I'm rolling my eyes at this. Seriously? I'm divorced and am a single mom, but not a single parent. My ex is very involved in his daughter's life. He sees her every week, meets her to help with her homework, and we spend family holidays together. It didn't work out for us, but he's still her father.
I'm guessing the fraction of his salary that he pays in child support is more than you make at whatever crap job you have, and both of us have degrees that were paid for with academic scholarships--not government grants.
We also both happen to be bisexual, which didn't have fuck to do with the success or failure of our relationship.
The fattest ugliest diesel-trucks seem to get the hottest fish!
Discuss.
I can see that Boston's fat, hairy, black, lesbian SINGLE mother has let him out of the underground dungeon once again. Good on ya son, you've got weeks of trolling to make up for.
I didn't know there was DNA in my ass!
Bravo Cynthia! Glad she is able to embrace who she is and be happy. She has a choice and I say lucky her for having more than one option. If she should decide later on that she wants something different, that is fine too.
Equally valid though, is it for someone who asserts that choice has nothing to do with their sexual identity and who knows deep in their heart that they could not change who they are attracted to for anything.
It is all good! And I love Rojosexual too!!! haha :D
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Please marry a bi guy. I promise he will be real into you. LMFAO
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Submitted by boston61 on Tue, 01/24/2012 - 12:38am.
Bjorkjou
Your boyfriend likes dick too. That's cool?
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You like his. And that's cooler. So what?
Team Cynthia. I have always believed that for SOME people it is a choice. Not everyone was born this way. Look at Ann Heche, eating dick, licking clit and back to sucking dick again. I knew girls in college who made out with/slept other girls and are totally straight now and arent gay and then you have some boys who were born gay everyone knew it before they even realized it. So some people do choose to be gay and others were born like that.
I see y'all are feeding that goddamn troll again! I wish you;d feed him with a big giant dildo!
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Submitted by Bjork You on Tue, 01/24/2012 - 12:36am.
Sexuality is fluid.
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and messy!
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boston61 on Tue, 01/24/2012 - 12:42am.
Cynthia has ALWAYS been gay. Total bull sh!t.
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Ahem. My Barbie dolls were fuckin' each other long before I ever bought the one lone Ken doll (who turned out to be gay anyway).
Submitted by boston61 on Tue, 01/24/2012 - 12:38am.
You obviously don't have a boyfriend OR a girlfriend.
Turn your mattress over. Your masturbatory cum stains are not a 'turn on' for your future bisexual lover.
good for her! something as fluid, complex and personal as sexuality should never be restricted by a silly false dichotomy (you either like boys or you like girls; you're either born gay or you choose to be gay). cynthia stating she chose to be gay shouldn't delegitimise someone who feels they were born gay; cynthia's subject to the same hate and oppression because of her sexuality.
Cynthia has ALWAYS been gay. Total bull sh!t.