OctoMom Is On Welfare Now

"Personality disorders are not mental illnesses, they are dysfunctional personality styles. They do not render a person incapable of controlling his or her own behavior."

Good point--thanks for the correction.

The rest of your post describes exactly where I was in the late 1990's. It was just unbelievable to me that so many resources would be accessible if I were to get pregnant (or even commit a crime), but there was no help for me otherwise. And the ones at the top were screwing all of us.

@HockeyFan--Pathological lying is definitely part of NPD. Personality Disorders in general.

Check out these "Reader Comments" in response to an article about NPD from three years ago, where some very brave people have told their personal stories of the havoc and near-destruction wreaked by narcissists in their lives. These stories make it very clear that NPD is way beyond simply being a selfish, scamming asshole.

http://health.usnews.com/health-news/family-health/brain-and-behavior/ar...

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Submitted by Hockey fan on Sun, 04/01/2012 - 2:43pm.
How about those of us who chose a lender we researched and felt comfortable with-- and then two months after our house closes, our company gets bought by Bank Of America ( more like Satan of Satanville), the loan parameters change, and we try to sell the house bc now we can't afford it? We had a buyer for three months who finally gave up bc we could not get Satan to even RETURN A FUCKING PHONE CALL?? 11 times we faxed over papers, only to have them "lost" or "unavailable." Our buyer finally gave up, offered on a another house, bought it, and moved in before we ever heard back from Beelzebub of America.

Please, don't lump all of us together. You have NO idea what some of us have gone thru. (Oh, and yeah...we're now in foreclosure.)
THanks for your wise insight.
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The terms of the loan are the terms regardless of who owns the loan. Why would BofA change it (I'm not sure that's even legal!)? BofA is the worst, WORST!!!
IMO, based on what you've said here, you have a case against BofA. And, I know for a fact they'll be more than happy to settle out of court. They'll fight - because they're arrogant assholes - but they'll settle.

My spouse and several friends worked for BofA, unfortunately, after the company was bought by BofA. It's a TERRIBLE company that treats employees like shit and treats it's customers even worse. They've shared many stories about customers and how they can't help them because BofA had their hands tied. It made them sick to their stomachs. BofA is SHIT.

UPDATE: Just confirmed my suspicion. BofA - nor any lender - CANNOT change the terms of your loan once that loan has closed. If they did, and you have tangible proof, go after their asses! It's illegal.

"That extreme couponing is the way to go if you can find space to put 400 boxes of macaroni and 600 toothbrushes." Made me laugh out loud!

Late to the party here, but a few points:

Personality disorders are not mental illnesses, they are dysfunctional personality styles. They do not render a person incapable of controlling his or her own behavior.

As a single person living in poverty for most of my life, I remember rather bitterly how I wasn't eligible for so many welfare programs because I never fulfilled my patriarchal reason for existence by becoming a MOTHER. Oh, and section 8 in my town had a waiting list that had a waiting list just to get on the waiting list. I got food stamps, back when they were actual paper and you were embarrassed to use them in the store because of all the dirty looks you'd get from other people and how they'd start scrutinizing your food to see if what you were buying was suitable for their tax dollars to be spent on. Those food stamps weren't really enough to keep a single person alive.

I'm guessing the system expects single females to shack up with a dude and gestate some brats if they want to survive. So much so that women who don't are actually punished for it by living in increased deprivation.

I used to hate the women with kids who seemed to have so much more than I did, and society seemed to care a lot more about them too. Until I realized that the status quo benefits when oppressed people turn against each other. The people keeping me down are not the welfare mothers of the world; they're just portrayed negatively in the media because they make easy targets. It's not like they have any actual wealth or power or ability to defend themselves. The more we work ourselves up into a lather to hate people on the bottom of the social ladder, the more shit the people on top get away with.

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on Mon, 04/02/2012 - 7:48am.
She claimed to have put the donor's/father's name on the older kids birth certificate. Later she/her mother claimed a fake name had been given. Who the hell knows what the truth is. They're all a bunch of liars. Yes, it's illegal, but for some odd reason CA seems to have taken a hands off approach to her.
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In California, you can't put down any father on the birth certificate if you are not married to him. The man has to be present to do that. Due to all the paternity problems, CA started cracking down on that in the 1990s. About 30 years ago, you could put Mickey Mouse down as the father on a birth certificate.

One trait not listed on NPD symptoms, that I believe is still true, is pathological lying-- the ability to fabricate and embellish about themselves to make themselves look better. Also they have an inability to see any flaws in themselves.

She claimed to have put the donor's/father's name on the older kids birth certificate. Later she/her mother claimed a fake name had been given. Who the hell knows what the truth is. They're all a bunch of liars. Yes, it's illegal, but for some odd reason CA seems to have taken a hands off approach to her.

Narcissist?? More like an asshole. What about an addict?? What about Bipolar?? What about Borderline Personality Disorder??? Come on!!!

The definition for NPD can be used to classify a hell of a lot of people.

Submitted by lislop on Mon, 04/02/2012 - 7:17am.

I was just trying to give an ex. of people who abuse the welfare system, without any remorse or sense of responsiblity. It's not necessarily a disease, but an "I don't care about anyone else but myself" type attitude.

Her older children supposedly have a father listed on their birth certificates. Anyway, who cares, it's probably another one of her lies.

---It's not just another lie, it's illegal to put fake info on an official document. I doubt there would be many single *celibate* women out there with 14 kids, on welfare, who can't and/or won't name the father of any child and get away with it. Or put a fake name and get away with it. Well, now she's on welfare so hopefully she'll have some explaining to do for the dollar.

She doesn't care about anyone but herself, even her own kids. What more of an example do you need of a stinking narcissist?

I was just trying to give an ex. of people who abuse the welfare system, without any remorse or sense of responsiblity. It's not necessarily a disease, but an "I don't care about anyone else but myself" type attitude.

Her older children supposedly have a father listed on their birth certificates. Anyway, who cares, it's probably another one of her lies.

Submitted by lislop on Mon, 04/02/2012 - 5:38am.

Many years ago I worked with 3 women who became pregnant by their boyfriends. No health insurance. They applied for public health benefits, claimed to no longer know the father (lie !) so that they could qualify for free welfare benefits. Incredibly they were able to place the boyfriend's name on the birth certificate.

---unlike octo, who didn't put the dude's name down on any 14 certificates so he wouldn't be hit up with child support and explanations. He was probaby humping her/getting blown during professional business hours, etc.

And, he obviously doesn't want to move in with her and those welfare benefits...no matter how many clothes she takes off. Or how many yards of loose flesh she's had trimmed off prior to:

a) taking her clothes off for $10,000.
b) going on welfare (so they don't dock the $10,000 from her welfare payments).

@Laxpat - Thanks for providing the link on Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD).

The description provided can probably describe MOST/MANY politicians, celebrities, reality tv famewhores, Wall Street, etc. Do they ALL have this so called disease???

I don't buy it. Again, some people are just greedy, selfish ASSHOLES.

Many years ago I worked with 3 women who became pregnant by their boyfriends. No health insurance. They applied for public health benefits, claimed to no longer know the father (lie !) so that they could qualify for free welfare benefits. Incredibly they were able to place the boyfriend's name on the birth certificate, without being questioned by welfare services. Back in the early 90's (not sure if this has changed) moms were able to do this. They all ended up moving in with their boyfriends while receiving housing, food, health and childcare benefits. Interestingly, one broke up with her abusive boyfriend, reported him to the Stare Attorney General who went after him for child support payments to the state.

Were these people all mentally ill with NPD???

No, they were irresponsible scammers.

Submitted by Anonymouse73 on Sun, 04/01/2012 - 6:09pm.

sandbitch, isn't it kind of rare, almost impossible...to have eight fetuses doing it the old fashioned way?

---pls excuse the late reply A-mouse, I had to piss off to work pppfffffttt!

It would be highly unlikely, but she was taking fertility pills (when she wasn't infertile). She certainly did IVF numerous! times, but she also had it on with the dude. How else was she able to hoard/obtain bucketloads (gag) of his fresh semen?

I don't think she asked his wife (she *says* he's married) to squat over a honey bucket. I don't believe I just said that ewww.

When some of the documentation became publicly available...it showed she's had (can't recall the exact number but it's 40+) embryos tranferred over several IVF treatments. FORTY PLUS FFS!! California should thank fucking god she only birthed 14 (while on student loans=child care) and workers insurance.

So she pissed approximately 36 embryos down the terlit just for the obsessive fun of it. She was probably expecting to piss out a few of the octuplets as well. And then she would've been right back for another round, i.e. asking the dude if she can give him another blow job.

She cares so much about baby embryos that she pissed 36 down the loo... I could fair dinkum kick the bitch in the box for that, for starters.

"Is there really no effective treatment available for this Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD)? I can easily believe there is no hope for this problem, but want to explore all possibilities so that family members can know that there was really nothing they could have done and be at peace when things end badly, or if there is something that can be done, what is it? Thank you."

The best way to appropriately explore the subject would be to speak with a knowledgeable clinician (psychologist) and to do some reading. Many books are available through the usual places (amazon, etc); just type "Narcissistic Personality Disorder" into the search box and you'll get a good-sized list.

Here's an interesting tidbit, however: If you think you might have Narcissistic Personality Disorder, you don't have it.
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Is there really no effective treatment available for this Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD)? I can easily believe there is no hope for this problem, but want to explore all possibilities so that family members can know that there was really nothing they could have done and be at peace when things end badly, or if there is something that can be done, what is it? Thank you.

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It's not an excuse, and it's not a cause for sympathy. These people are beyond help and treatment, because the hallmark of the disorder itself is the person existing in a reality in which everyone else is the problem.

Double post. Sorry!

"Hmm... Narcissistic Personality Disorder List of Objectionable Persons in the Media:
Octomom
The Kardashian Klan
The Lohan Lot
The Hilton Hags
you get the idea..."

Yeah, that sounds about right. Though after having thought about it more, I'm thinking Lindsay Lohan is most likely Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) with strong narcissistic "characteristics". Same with Angelina Jolie. It's possible that Octomom falls into this category, too, but I don't know enough about her.

While Narcissists can have issues with substance abuse, they don't usually manifest the kind of self-destructive tendencies that Borderlines do. Borderlines are the "cutters", the highly sexually promiscuous (and unsafely), the anorexics/bulimics, attempting suicide for attention/drama (usually by cutting or swallowing pills), etc.

A person who has anorexia or bulimia is NOT necessarily BPD; likewise for the sexually promiscuous and suicidal. And the rate of completed suicides is higher among those with BPD than the general population. My point is that those with BPD usually manifest, at some time in (or even throughout) their lives, habitual-type self-destructive behavior.

And lol at "Hilton Hags"!

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Submitted by LAXpat on Sun, 04/01/2012 - 10:35pm.

I'd like to know what their so called mental illness is called?

It's called "Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD)", and people with this disorder spend their lives wreaking havoc on and destroying the lives of others...Here's a very basic (though highly incomplete) rundown of what this disorder entails:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/narcissistic-personality-disorder/DS006...

Narcissistic personality disorder symptoms may include:
Believing that you're better than others
Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness
Exaggerating your achievements or talents
Expecting constant praise and admiration
Believing that you're special and acting accordingly
Failing to recognize other people's emotions and feelings
Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans
Taking advantage of others
Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior
Being jealous of others
Believing that others are jealous of you
Trouble keeping healthy relationships
Setting unrealistic goals
Being easily hurt and rejected
Having a fragile self-esteem
Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional
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LAXpat - thanks for providing that info, it helps clarify a lot of things. My proposal for the taxpayers of Cali is to have this delusional idiot spend the next several years picking up garbage along the side of California's roadways to help offset the costs she's incurred to the state. Win-win for everyone.
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Submitted by LAXpat on Sun, 04/01/2012 - 10:35pm.

I'd like to know what their so called mental illness is called?

It's called "Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD)", and people with this disorder spend their lives wreaking havoc on and destroying the lives of others...Here's a very basic (though highly incomplete) rundown of what this disorder entails:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/narcissistic-personality-disorder/DS006...

Narcissistic personality disorder symptoms may include:
Believing that you're better than others
Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness
Exaggerating your achievements or talents
Expecting constant praise and admiration
Believing that you're special and acting accordingly
Failing to recognize other people's emotions and feelings
Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans
Taking advantage of others
Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior
Being jealous of others
Believing that others are jealous of you
Trouble keeping healthy relationships
Setting unrealistic goals
Being easily hurt and rejected
Having a fragile self-esteem
Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional
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LAXpat - thanks for providing that info, it helps clarify a lot of things. My proposal for the taxpayers of Cali is to have this delusional idiot spend the next several years picking up garbage along the side of California's roadways to help offset the costs she's incurred to the state. Win-win for everyone.
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If it looks like a stunt, walks like a stunt and smells like warm piss on burnt plastic, it came directly from Pimp Mama Kris' pimpin' hand. - MK

Hmm... Narcissistic Personality Disorder List of Objectionable Persons in the Media:
Octomom
The Kardashian Klan
The Lohan Lot
The Hilton Hags
you get the idea...

Submitted by lislop on Sun, 04/01/2012 - 9:20pm.

Yes, maybe the Duggars can teach her, how they managed to claim their home as a religious institution/church and therefore are screwing the state by claiming tax exemption. They're all garbage. Who pays for all the Duggars health insurance? Bob was an Arkansas State Legislator until 2002. Who paid for their health insurance???? The state of Arkansas!!! Many legislators becomie wealthier during their terms in office due to "favors" and kick-backs. Aren't their kids home schooled??? Then I'm sure they don't have to pay school taxes. They're swindlers too.
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Oh, don't get me wrong-- I hate the Duggars and their litter too. And I am sure you're right, that they have claimed all kinds of "church" deferments. As for their insurance, I don't know and really, neither do you. Of course they were covered when he was a State legislator; I was covered when I was a state worker too. That kinda goes without saying; it's not a deal/perk he managed to wangle. As for "school taxes", well, if they pay property taxes, they pay for schools whether they attend them or not. That's how the law works. Melba and Earl down your street pay them, and they haven't had kids in school for forty years.
What I was referring to is, before the Duggars had a tv show, Michelle had a very basic website where she talked about how they raised their kids with no welfare assistance, no public aid, nothing. Welfare was what I was referring to. As for HOW they are raising them, well, I'm not even going to get into it.

I'd like to know what their so called mental illness is called?

It's called "Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD)", and people with this disorder spend their lives wreaking havoc on and destroying the lives of others.

Is this the same mental illness also prevalent among the greedy bankers, mortgage lenders, investment bankers, etc., that helped bring about the economic collapse?? Is this the so called mental illness the Liar has??

Yes. It's also the mental illness that Lindsay Lohan has.

Here's a very basic (though highly incomplete) rundown of what this disorder entails:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/narcissistic-personality-disorder/DS006...

It's not an excuse, and it's not a cause for sympathy. These people are beyond help and treatment, because the hallmark of the disorder itself is the person existing in a reality in which everyone else is the problem.

But it's not the fault of the children that they were born to a Narcissist, and they don't deserve to be left for dead or out in the cold.
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It's hardly a surprise Jim Duggar announced his support for fellow swindler, Rick Santorum, another religious freak who received $73,000 in tuition reimbursement for his 7 home-schooled kids. The guy didn't even live in PA, he lived in VA - a claim his neoghbors will verify.
http://www.realchange.org/santorum.htm

I'd like to know what their so called mental illness is called??

Is this the same mental illness also prevalent among the greedy bankers, mortgage lenders, investment bankers, etc., that helped bring about the economic collapse?? Is this the so called mental illness the Liar has??

Face it- it's called greed and selfishness!

"Yes, maybe the Duggars can teach her, how they managed to claim their home as a religious institution/church and therefore are screwing the state by claiming tax exemption. They're all garbage. Who pays for all the Duggars health insurance? Bob was an Arkansas State Legislator until 2002. Who paid for their health insurance???? The state of Arkansas!!! Many legislators becoming wealthier during their term in office due to "favors" and kick-backs. Aren't their kids home schooled??? Then I'm sure they don't have to pay school taxes. They're swindlers too."

THANK YOU! I am so sick of people saying that the Duggars don't take handouts or welfare/public assistance, and don't rely on taxpayers to foot the bill for their menagerie--because THEY DO! It's just in a different form!

It was Bobby and Kenny McCaughy and the Duggars who "inspired" Kate Gosselin and Octomom. Damned fools--all of them.
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"Support your local Search and Rescue team: Get lost."

Yes, maybe the Duggars can teach her, how they managed to claim their home as a religious institution/church and therefore are screwing the state by claiming tax exemption. They're all garbage. Who pays for all the Duggars health insurance? Bob was an Arkansas State Legislator until 2002. Who paid for their health insurance???? The state of Arkansas!!! Many legislators becomie wealthier during their terms in office due to "favors" and kick-backs. Aren't their kids home schooled??? Then I'm sure they don't have to pay school taxes. They're swindlers too.

This liar is NOT mentally ill. There are some people who are born assholes, who are selfish and only care about themselves. LIAR has ALWAYS been on some type of public assistance: Workman's comp, Disability/ Social Security for her disabled kids. She is garbage. Here's a picture of her 8 babies when they were born. They're all CRYING, just wanting to be held. She has her son feeding one of them in a completely unsafe manner and without being held. Look at the stupid look on her ridiculous, ugly face - she's completely oblivious to their suffering. I just watched two videos of an interview her publicist gave a couple years ago that sheds more light on how Liar alienated others and therefore prevented them from helping her children. My guess is that she preferred no help, because others noticed (how could they not) that she was hardly ever home. Again, always about her. She's garbage! I'm glad her plan to get pregnant, in order to become rich and famous has backfired. Garbage!
http://www.gossiprocks.com/forum/latest-gossip/112821-picnic-eight-octom...

Submitted by jelliebean on Sun, 04/01/2012 - 4:04pm.

Nadya's story to the media about her life and her kids has changed to fit her agenda. I don't find her credible at all.

Right on, Mr/Ms Bean.

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Please: It's "rahnday."

"Then have Michelle Duggar show her how to do it without public assistance."

You mean by pimping her kids out on tv? Because that is the only way the Duggars can afford their brood.

Those telling her to get a job...how!? Anything this woman does is not only not going to make enough money to cover food/shelter 15 children, but it's certainly not going to cover childcare for 15 children. Regardless of whether she works or not, she will have to be on public assistance...unless she goes the Duggar route. I'm not defending her choice, b/c it was an idiotic one...I'm just saying, her working would mean nothing except that the children would be completely unsupervised. Her paycheck would make not a dent in their expenses.

sandbitch, isn't it kind of rare, almost impossible...to have eight fetuses doing it the old fashioned way?

Bitch be lyin'! She's been on some form of "aid" or another for a long, long time.

She was on Workmen's Comp (prior to when Ahnold changed the laws in Cali to fuck the injured employee) and used that money for fertility treatments, knowing full damn well that money wasn't going to last forever. (Instead of investing in your education [or just investing it, period] to support the kids you've got, HELL, why not have more kids you can't support?)

I'm willing to guarantee that she gets "tuition assistance" for her special needs kids, as almost all of them are, from either the state or school system or BOTH.

She got food stamps prior to her "octo experience;" qualified for Medi-Cal; qualified for low-income assistance/discount with the power company; and probably for HUD as well (IF she wasn't living with her parents - if she was, then THEY probably qualified for HUD and all the rest).

No, I don't know her; but I do know the state of Cali, and it sucks. Those kids should have been taken away and placed in decent homes where they weren't allowed to chew on drywall and attempt to kill one another on the regular.

I feel sorry for kids and the dude who owns the house she lives in now!

Now she's humped her way up the pole to *single parent* welfare payments, I hope the authorities will investigate the other half of this fuckery - the married octodaddy who happily and regularlyt bathed this nutjob in semen.

The donor story is bullshit like everything else. She wasn't even infertile. If you're humping/blowing a dude on the down low and you get knocked up, he's the daddy and he owes a shitload in back child support.

Being married doesn't make him a donor.

Nadya's story to the media about her life and her kids has changed to fit her agenda. I don't find her credible at all. So if she says she's pulling her kids from private school, they might not be in private school at all, or they might be in private school on scholarship or charity or they might not even be in school. She says what sounds good to gain sympathy, she has some sick form of Munchausen's by proxy or narcissistic personality.

Her litter of 8 would have a better chance in life if they where put in a cardboard box placed next to a Freeway off ram with a "FREE" sign stuck to it; rather than in this fucked up situation that they are held hostage in!!

And OctoCrazy belongs in the closed ward of a phsyc clinic!!

Nunya, I can't stand Octo or her deluded dreams of stardom. But I agree, the children and her family do not deserve contempt. Whether she planned it or not, her FUG
ass deserves no more media attention because of how irresponsible she has been...

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Dr. Dick: The Evangelicals are the ones who wouldn't have wanted her to abort any of those fetuses. They should care most if her babies need anything.

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My heart goes out to the Octopawn and their poor grandparents. Nadya has ruined 16 lives with her irresponsibility:

Suleman's father, Edward Doud Suleman,identified himself as a former Iraqi military man and said he would be returning to his native Iraq as a translator and driver in order to financially support his daughter and her fourteen children. Suleman's mother, Angela Victoria Suleman, a retired high school teacher, has helped to look after the first six children. She has indicated that she is overwhelmed looking after them, and has been critical of her daughter in her earlier public statements. Amongst similar interviews, she revealed that her daughter never expected to give birth to the large number of children, nor did she expect to be unemployed and use public assistance.

Her parents have lost their home and filed for bankruptcy trying to help Nadya and her kids, but the bitch had nothing but contempt for them because they questioned her shitty ass decision making.

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Submitted by parissucksliterally on Sun, 04/01/2012 - 12:47pm.

on TMZ, Dina Lohan is STILL voted a worse parent....lmao 69%!

I know...I saw that also. Dina is still the worst! Hahaha!

Anyone who has ever struggled with poverty knows how extremely expensive it is to be poor.
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Submitted by Hockey fan on Sun, 04/01/2012 - 2:50pm.

Submitted by Bree on Sun, 04/01/2012 - 4:54am.

Also as MK said, the kids have to eat and it's not their fault in this situation.

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Goddamn, really. All it takes is some common fucking sense.
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3rd this. The kids not at fault; the state enabling; the bitch with no common sense. All this shit needs to stop, seriously.

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Submitted by Bree on Sun, 04/01/2012 - 4:54am.

I always say not to judge people who need social services because you really don't know where they've been. You don't know if they had that expensive purse before they hit hard times, if it was a gift, whatever. Also as MK said, the kids have to eat and it's not their fault in this situation.

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Bree, I've been on assistance/welfare/unemployment...whatever fancy word you want to use. I hated every minute of it, hated taking out that card to use for food/gas/whatever. But i can honestly say the VERY LAST FUCKING THING ON MY MIND was getting IVF and having a litter!!! But I think in California, and my thoughts are backed by the evidence on this video, that other women are taught that children are a commodity, a paycheck. THe more you fuck and spawn, the more money the state will pay you. Well, isn't CA just the goose that farted out the golden egg!! and then they wonder why the state is broke????
Goddamn, really. All it takes is some common fucking sense.

This damn bitch, ffs. We all knew this shit was going to fking end up this way. Can I interchange/add something to the college diet? In place of Boone's, I'd do Rolling Rock cause that shit is 8 bottles for $4, and in lieu of popcorn, I'd do the store brand tortilla Scoops, which is fking addictive.

Anyway, I hate this fking plastic-surgery'd leeching delusional assbrain bitch. HATE.
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Submitted by CheeryBitch on Sun, 04/01/2012 - 1:46am.

This is where I disagree. I'm biased because my spouse works in mortgage.

No one forced people to buy more house than they could afford. It's up to the buyer to educate themselves about the home loan process not the lender. People put more research into buying a digital camera than they do to buying a house, acquiring a loan and choosing the right lender!

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How about those of us who chose a lender we researched and felt comfortable with-- and then two months after our house closes, our company gets bought by Bank Of America ( more like Satan of Satanville), the loan parameters change, and we try to sell the house bc now we can't afford it? We had a buyer for three months who finally gave up bc we could not get Satan to even RETURN A FUCKING PHONE CALL?? 11 times we faxed over papers, only to have them "lost" or "unavailable." Our buyer finally gave up, offered on a another house, bought it, and moved in before we ever heard back from Beelzebub of America.

Please, don't lump all of us together. You have NO idea what some of us have gone thru. (Oh, and yeah...we're now in foreclosure.)
THanks for your wise insight.

Sick of this twat, sick of her kids...did you all see the video of her running around her house, trying to keep up with all those chirruns, lookin like she lost her damn mind?

Basically, she thought this would make her a hero-- having tons of kids. She thought it would make her the Angelina Jolie of SoCal. WRONG, BITCH!!! When she got caught as to how she was doing it and "paying" for it, aka public assistance, she was fucked and she knew it. So now she's throwing herself on the pyre? Too fuckin late.

I did, however, like the idea of having the extreme couponers show her an ETHICAL ('cause some of them aren't) and economical way to live. Then have Michelle Duggar show her how to do it without public assistance. If none of those work- let her keep one kid and adopt the rest out. It's clear that she cannot care for that many children.

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The odds that her kids turn out to be useful, productive members of society are slim anyway.

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Ya. Fuckin' Arabs.

I'm all for a woman's right to do what she wants with her body, as long as she does it responsibly. But Octomom took a dump on that right. The kind thing to do would have been to call Child Protective Services as soon as Miss Thing stepped into that clinic, spread her legs on the exam table, and said to the doctor, "Stick it in!"

I have heard that some of her kids are mentally or physically disabled. As for the rest...who knows what condition they are in. Having a crazy for a mother probably didnt socialize them well or taught them much about being a good and moral person. What Im getting at is in about 10 years we'll have a pack of welfare moms, druggies and misfits to deal with. Yup, we'll be paying for Suyman's error for ever.