Obligatory Title: Jay-Z's Got 99 Problems, But Gay Marriage Ain't One

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Girlfromipanema, thanks for sharing your explanations they were most insightful (as were others' comments) and bring home the importance of equality rights for same-sex marriage! ;D

Oh and yeah, still don't like Jay-Z! Hahahah
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Submitted by Poopele on Tue, 05/15/2012 - 6:53pm.

And if Barack Obama was against Gay Marriage, then Jay Z would.......defend whatever Barack says.

Because Jay Z is voting SOLELY on one thing...the skin color of the candidate.
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Give it a rest, Poople. Black people have predominantly voted Democratic. Even if Barrack Obama was White, he'd still get the Black vote---> see Bill Clinton.

Why would we support a party that openly hates women & minorities? If you're not a rich, Christian, hetero, White male, the GOP does not care for you.

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Submitted by girlfromipanema on Tue, 05/15/2012 - 4:09pm.

Submitted by nunya_bizness on Tue, 05/15/2012 - 3:17pm.
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It appears he never said that and confirmed his intention to continue to use the word "bitch" soon after that report came out.

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I take it back then, DAMN!!

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Fujicat on Tue, 05/15/2012 - 10:27pm.
This has nothing to do with rap, gay or anything other than sucking up for social climbing purposes.

I'm guessing he's fairly convinced the current occupants will remain in the White House, guaranteeing him entrance to the top of the American social heap.

Asshat.
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Absolutely and the end.

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so does this mean that this self-hating closet case will stop rapping about 'faggots' now that black jesus has said that he likes them, he really likes them ?

I'm voting for Mitt, but.... with his looks, class, mind Jay - Z has it all ; Jay - Z for president, and that means Beyonce the first lady! :)

"Submitted by Poopele on Tue, 05/15/2012 - 6:53pm.

And if Barack Obama was against Gay Marriage, then Jay Z would.......defend whatever Barack says.

Because Jay Z is voting SOLELY on one thing...the skin color of the candidate.
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Orrrrr, he could be voting for him b/c he feels he's the best candidate? Most African Americans vote DEMOCRAT.
It's funny that the GOP has been screaming about people pulling the "race card", yet this is the canned answer anytime a Black person says they support Pres. Obama. Perhaps he just agrees with his political stance!

This has nothing to do with rap, gay or anything other than sucking up for social climbing purposes.

I'm guessing he's fairly convinced the current occupants will remain in the White House, guaranteeing him entrance to the top of the American social heap.

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Fair is foul and foul is fair..

Spoken like a true DL rapper

I wonder if Beyonce is going to say it's her first inauguration again like she did with Obama's first election, hoping nobody would remember her at Bush's...

Submitted by nunya_bizness on Tue, 05/15/2012 - 3:17pm.

Submitted by Message In A Bottle on Tue, 05/15/2012 - 12:48pm.

So it's okay for Jay-Z to back up gays and the black community but he can disrespect and mistreat women?

This guy will always be a tool in my book __________________________________________________

You missed his "I will no longer refer to women as bitches" comment after Bey had Blue Ivy? I guess better late than never. It's called maturity.

This is huge for the hiphop community and huge for the Black community.
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I guess you missed a few days later when he said it at an event and there went his maturity? If I remember right, MK even has a post about it.

ETA: http://mobile.dlisted.com/2012/01/19/bitch-word-alive-and-well-jay-zs-mo...

And if Barack Obama was against Gay Marriage, then Jay Z would.......defend whatever Barack says.

Because Jay Z is voting SOLELY on one thing...the skin color of the candidate.

Well that's all dandy for the president to say he believes Gays should be able to marry but what's he going to do about it? NOTHING. And to think at one time slavery was considered a matter for the states to decide. If it weren't for that old, white, republican Abe Lincoln, it very well could STILL be that way.

Sorry if I don't jump on the Michael K. Worship Wagon but give it a rest. So Jay-Z's words weren't surgically precise and as PC as everyone demands. The bottom line is he supports gay marriage and the mention of "in their own homes" was clearly a generalized way of saying "mind your own fucking business."

Submitted by cocoebert on Tue, 05/15/2012 - 11:28am.
Submitted by stefystef on Tue, 05/15/2012 - 11:18am.
I don't do bandwagons, so I am not jumping on this one. My opinion on this matter will stay my own.

You're implying that marriage equality is merely a bandwagon issue- like some passing fad. It's not for many people who fight for it.

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When I say I don't do bandwagons, I mean that I am not the type of person to get involved with a movement because it is acceptable now or it is the thing that gets you attention so you can "act" like you are hip. Equality of American citizens is not a fad.

But when an issue becomes the "flavor of the month", I tend to leave it alone until all the attention-grabbers find something else to make them seem smart and the real advocates and activities do the real work.

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Submitted by girlfromipanema on Tue, 05/15/2012 - 4:17pm.

Submitted by Spaz de la Whoreta on Tue, 05/15/2012 - 3:08pm.
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Nope. The inheritance tax is not avoided. All this does is make the deceased's half of the property automatically go to joint owner.. who is still subject to the tax. If they can't afford the tax, they will lose the house or be forced to sell it. This is one of the sticking points as to why people fight for the right to same sex marriages.

completely unfair shit:
http://www.gayrites.net/forums/ben-jerners-legal-jernel/3642

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Totally unfair. I always thought the jtros was meant to keep assets out of probate, but that shows how much I know. I think this is unfair to gays and to anyone else who chooses to have property deeded to themselves and a non-spouse. Terribly discriminatory.

Submitted by nunya_bizness on Tue, 05/15/2012 - 3:17pm.
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It appears he never said that and confirmed his intention to continue to use the word "bitch" soon after that report came out.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/jan/18/jay-z-bitch-lyrics

SAD, HE SURE IS PATTING HIMSELF ON THE BACK ABOUT BEING "OPEN", BUT CONTINUES TO CALL WOMEN BITCHES AND HO'S ALL WHILE HE IS A FATHER AND HUSBAND?

Submitted by Spaz de la Whoreta on Tue, 05/15/2012 - 3:08pm.
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Nope. The inheritance tax is not avoided. All this does is make the deceased's half of the property automatically go to joint owner.. who is still subject to the tax. If they can't afford the tax, they will lose the house or be forced to sell it. This is one of the sticking points as to why people fight for the right to same sex marriages.

completely unfair shit:
http://www.gayrites.net/forums/ben-jerners-legal-jernel/3642

MK has a good eye for detail. There are a lot of so-called progressives and fair-minded people who accidentally say what they're really thinking. My 2 faves: "I fully support your choice to be gay," and here's what Obama said the other day- he personally is in favor of same-sex marriage and at the same time feels it is an issue left up to the states.

Uh... okay, but when it's put on the ballot in a state, it always loses... a fact not lost on Obama and his pollsters.

Submitted by Message In A Bottle on Tue, 05/15/2012 - 12:48pm.

So it's okay for Jay-Z to back up gays and the black community but he can disrespect and mistreat women?

This guy will always be a tool in my book
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You missed his "I will no longer refer to women as bitches" comment after Bey had Blue Ivy? I guess better late than never. It's called maturity.

This is huge for the hiphop community and huge for the Black community.

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Submitted by girlfromipanema on Tue, 05/15/2012 - 1:19pm.

It is beyond shitty, though, that if the worst should happen, either my father or his partner would have to pay inheritance tax on the other's share of the house they bought together over a decade ago.

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I don't know about other assets, but it seems to me that real estate could be deeded between "unmarried" people to avoid the inheritance tax. Maybe commenter JTROS knows something about this?

If Jay Z were an intelligent human being, he would have addressed African American men, on the DL, infecting their wives, girlfriends, baby mamas etc.. with HIV! HIV is the highest it has ever been among African American females....

Submitted by Isthatwhatyoume... on Tue, 05/15/2012 - 2:58pm.
If a politician uses his power and platform to do the right human thing even at risk of losing votes then I might even believe that he got into politics to make the world a better place and has some ideals.

How dare you bring the witchery of logic and good reasoning to Dlisted!

Jay-Z also said that it really doesn't matter if Obama's support costs him some votes, because it was the right thing to do as a human being.

That is the thing I most liked about this. Just yes. If a politician uses his power and platform to do the right human thing even at risk of losing votes then I might even believe that he got into politics to make the world a better place and has some ideals.

This twerp has more money than he deserves and he's managed to claim respect and power on other people's recordings, because he's done plenty of sampling to last a lifetime.

MK does raise a good point, it seems clear that he's pro-gay so long as he doesn't get to witness any PDAs. Interesting.

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Submitted by TheHeckler on Tue, 05/15/2012 - 1:42pm.
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Yeah.. who knows what he'd actually do if he had the power to change it. But, he did order the DOJ to stop defending DOMA, so at least there's that.

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Submitted by girlfromipanema on Tue, 05/15/2012 - 1:06pm.
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Thank you for your insightful response. I still believe that his wording, timing, etc suggests he isn't willing to do much of anything(even if there is only a little that he could do), but your explanation was informative.

I stand corrected :)

Ahahaha it's either awesome (or very poor) timing that Jay-Z was hanging out with Jake G over the weekend.

Go Lakers!

How does Beyonce do it?? How does she look at his ugly mug everyday and still have sex with him? This guy is the poster child for ugly men with awful bodies.

My guess is Beyonce and her lust for $$$$ is behind this. She loves $$$ more than anything and as the homos (in general...not me though!) tend to love her it looks good for her husband to be on the right side. Also its a fashionable cause for the slebs to rally behind = more $$$. although I did read somewhere that Beyonce's favourite uncle (Mama Tina's deceased brother) was gay and she has always loved gays because of him.....hmmm the cynic in me thinks though that its more about $$$ for these two hoes than it is about anti-discrimination, equality or anything else!

I do Pagents!

Submitted by girlfromipanema on Tue, 05/15/2012 - 1:25pm.

/sitting down next to you, MissJaneTexas,Sweetas and the like-minded

"Voodoo is forgetting who's the john and who's the whore." MK, 3/20/12

Submitted by bigorexia on Tue, 05/15/2012 - 1:17pm.

Using the word retarded here when some posters with learning disabled children have asked for it not to be used is just as stupid. Blah blagh blahing about equal rights and then you use that word?

Jussayin'

Sorry Foxxy. It's a sore subject for me as my dad is gay and has been living with his partner for over a decade, yet they are still denied many rights.

But enough with the unfunny shit.... you'd think with all his money, Jay-Z would've fixed that busted ass face of his already.

Submitted by bigorexia on Tue, 05/15/2012 - 1:17pm.
I keep on assuming that DListed readers are all informed, open-minded and intelligent people.
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holy jeebus, i hope that i never gave you that impression!... heehee!

this douche is a hypocrite, and shall be treated as such, in my opinion.

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Submitted by Mrs_Fox on Tue, 05/15/2012 - 11:05am.
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There are significant protections afforded by the government to married couples. These include: the right to sponsor your spouse to be granted legal status in the US, the right to see your spouse in the hospital regardless of your spouse's family's wishes (i.e. regardless of your spouse's family's homophobia), and the right to "inherit" your spouse's assets upon their death without being taxed. Don't discount the magnitude of those implications for homosexual couples.

My sisters and I are lucky that my dad's remaining family and his partner's family would never keep them from their partner's side in case of hospitalization and that my dad has always been in this country legally. It is beyond shitty, though, that if the worst should happen, either my father or his partner would have to pay inheritance tax on the other's share of the house they bought together over a decade ago.

*steps down from soapbox*

Blablabla. I keep on assuming that DListed readers are all informed, open-minded and intelligent people. The first time I realised this was not the case was when MK wrote a post about transsexuals, and now people are telling Jay-Z to shut up because he is encouraging equal rights? Who cares what his motives are? Telling someone to shut up because they are making a positive comment about equal rights is retarded!

Submitted by TexnDoc on Tue, 05/15/2012 - 12:21pm.

Mylie Cyrus AND Demi Moore -- how could it possibly have turned to shit?!

ETA: Submitted by girlfromipanema on Tue, 05/15/2012 - 1:06pm.

stop trying to drag that annoying fact-based logic into this discussion! ;-)

"Voodoo is forgetting who's the john and who's the whore." MK, 3/20/12

Submitted by TheHeckler on Tue, 05/15/2012 - 12:38pm.

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You're actually wrong; the President can't bring a case to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court only has original jurisdiction in cases where states are in dispute with each other, as well as appeals from lower courts.

Also, this is not a state issue, it is a federal issue. States issue marriage licenses, yes. But DOMA is, unfortunately, the federal law, and that trumps any state law, when in conflict. If we got rid of DOMA, there is still the matter of the Full Faith and Credit Clause of the US Constitution, which would require even the states that don't issue licenses for same sex marriage to legally recognize same sex married couples from a state in which same sex marriage is legal.

this prick needs to bite the business end of a revolver, and take his "music", and his wife along with him.

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and hear a song that I could understand.
I keep wishing it could be that way.
Because my world would be a Wonderland."

Submitted by Message In A Bottle on Tue, 05/15/2012 - 12:48pm.

Oh, but that's just in his mooooooooooooosic that he is disrespectful, IRL, he is a wonderful, respectful and wise orator of what is right and just!

*eye roll*

who is "noone"? I have never heard of him.

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So it's okay for Jay-Z to back up gays and the black community but he can disrespect and mistreat women?

This guy will always be a tool in my book.

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