No Doubt Bans Their Own Video

I would think that if you feel the need to "consult" with anyone when you're making a video, it should be a giant red flag that maybe you should come up with another concept. They could just dub this song over the video where she rides around on a jet ski, or one of their other bad videos.

I'm surprised given the music of No Doubt lately, but I like the song. Now as for the video, they've every right to change their minds and pull it. If people contacted the group and the band decided discontinue playing it, I think they did the right thing. They probably didn't want to get this type of attention when they're trying to have a hit.

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Submitted by Lucifer_Sam on Sun, 11/04/2012 - 7:53pm.
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Two way street when you are talking about freedom of speech. Where I can't get on the train is when people start randomly banning shit cuz it hurts some feelings. You're feelings are hurt? Fine. Exercise your free speech too, and hit them where it hurts most, THEIR WALLET. Like the poster said, they didn't pull the video to be 'racially sensitive', they pulled it for fear of their bottom line. And for that, I fault them.

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Submitted by Zorba-the-Geek on Sun, 11/04/2012 - 8:04pm.

"Although we consulted with Native American friends and Native American studies experts at the University of California.."

Hahhaha. I'd like to hear that conversation. "Listen, um, Gwen wants to dress up as a sexy squaw and get tied up by male cowboys. Could you please inform us of the most historically accurate costumes for her to get tied up in? We really want to keep the details accurate and racially sensitive, thnx."
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THIS. I demand to see the names of the 'scholars' who gave their professional opinion and approval on this bullshit haha!

Submitted by squiggles on Sun, 11/04/2012 - 5:42pm.

It's awesome to see other people who follow Adrienne K's writing. I love what she has to say. This post about hipster headdresses is one I really liked a lot. I'm also glad they took it down and addressed it so quickly, regardless of what reason.

http://nativeappropriations.blogspot.ca/2010/04/but-why-cant-i-wear-hips...

Submitted by me_ on Sun, 11/04/2012 - 8:13pm.

like somebody else wrote: people get more and more sensitive. i'm from europe, dressed up as a child as indian and cowgirl - both - for carneval. true that these costumes have become less popular today.

i.m.o. cowgirl and indian was way more innocent than stripper nurse, stripper cat, stripper x at halloween.
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I understand what you are saying because I know the cowboy/indian thing is big in certain places like Germany, but to put it in terms you could relate to: If there was a video similar to this with a Jew/Nazi scenario, even if it was 'all in fun', would some people not be a little offended? That is how most people view the sensitivity to Native Americans. It has to do with history.

As for being offended by sexy costumes, I don't understand that.

Devo did it better in "Whip It."

Sarah Smile

like somebody else wrote: people get more and more sensitive. i'm from europe, dressed up as a child as indian and cowgirl - both - for carneval. true that these costumes have become less popular today.

i.m.o. cowgirl and indian was way more innocent than stripper nurse, stripper cat, stripper x at halloween.

"Although we consulted with Native American friends and Native American studies experts at the University of California.."

Hahhaha. I'd like to hear that conversation. "Listen, um, Gwen wants to dress up as a sexy squaw and get tied up by male cowboys. Could you please inform us of the most historically accurate costumes for her to get tied up in? We really want to keep the details accurate and racially sensitive, thnx."

Submitted by Lucifer_Sam on Sun, 11/04/2012 - 7:53pm.

LOL exactly. People have the right to say all the dumb shit they want but other people have the right to call them on it.

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Submitted by CandyPerfumeGirl on Sun, 11/04/2012 - 6:25pm.
There goes freedom of speech again. Thing is, in a free society even bigots are and should be allowed to express their opinions. That is the thing with freedom of speech. It cant go one way only. As long as they do not directly incite violence by calling to arms and attacks, they should be able to say what they want. If it offends some people well too bad.

So bigots should be allowed to be bigots but the people they offend should not be allowed to express being offended? Is that your idea of freedom of speech? And as for "directly inciting violence" - where is the line between directly and indirectly? Please educate us all. Because I would say it is a call to arms when people are made to feel victimised, dehumanised, oppressed, and humiliated by some insensitive shithead who wouldn't know the value of freedom of speech if they were a woman in Afghanistan. You sound like a brain-dead fucking moron. But don't get offended now - just expressing my opinion!

Submitted by CandyPerfumeGirl on Sun, 11/04/2012 - 6:25pm.
There goes freedom of speech again.

Thing is, in a free society even bigots are and should be allowed to express their opinions. That is the thing with freedom of speech. It cant go one way only. As long as they do not directly incite violence by calling to arms and attacks, they should be able to say what they want. If it offends some people well too bad. We cant just pick and choose when we adhere to it. And Gwen took it down becasue it was gonna hurt the bottom line, not because she really thinks it ought not to be made.
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I used to see shows for 5 bux all over L.A. for these guys and once they had radio play and the sound changed we broke up with eachother!! Cant stand them now..i call bullshit that they consulted with experts before this video and if its true I doubt they will admit to it. This is something you do when u and your band friends are fucking around and decide to make a video..my father is Native American and it just rubs me the wrong way because I know the history,if they got a refresher course of the rape of women and mass rounding up of people I would like to think this would not of been in a video cuz dancing and grinding in a teepee for your violators ain't sexy or nice.

Check out the way she holds the reins on that horse as if she is on a carousel at the fair. Bitch needs to wake up. 1. Her voice is hideous. 2. Her outlandish videos are nauseating. 3. Havent they done enough to the Native AMericans without making a sport of their lifestyle and making money out of it at the same time.. you are shite ND.

Submitted by SANS FARDS on Sun, 11/04/2012 - 6:46pm.
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Well in the end he's an asshole in denial dressed up like an asshole - so basically it's the truth and no one can be offended. And if some guy woopsie mistakes him for a real terrorist and shoots him.. well..

At least they apologized immediately after it was released. They didn't wait until everyone wa talking about their video or were boycotting it.

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A couple of you don't know shit about natives. The problem isn't even alcohol anymore - it's prescription drugs, followed by meth, followed by crack, followed by the casino. The casinos are doing in its own people, along with doing in the whites.

I don't care how anyone dresses up or whatever, so I think I'll take offense at how we're all lumped together as being offended. No, we're not all offended. I'm offended by Stefani's chipmunk voice and horrible choice for a video. However, there is some ownage going on in her ability to offend all the sensibilities and senses at once.

Idk about the rest of the natives, but I use the word Indian because it's shorter than Native American. We also use NDN and some still use Injun - but it's like the n-word - the guys that say that better not catch anyone else saying it.

And not all of us get pissy and offended by every little thing, so fFfuuUuUuUuUuuucccckkkkk uuuuuuuuuu.

Although my grandfather was half Native American, I don't feel I can comment on what's offensive to Native Americans, but if they find it offensive, then it's offensive. As to this video, I think it's silly. Plus the lyrics are insipid.

I can't comment on the video content because the horrible fucking song was making my ears bleed.

At least they issued a really apology, unlike Justin Timbercunt's "my friends didn't want to offend anyone it was just a joke but I had nothing to do with it aside for the fact that my best friend who presumably knows me really well actually thought I would find this funny but it's horrible but kind of funny, right?"

That's all well and good but when is someone going to get seriously pissed off at Chris Brown for his Halloween costume?

no seriously....someone get on that!
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Submitted by P.T.Bull on Tue, 09/25/2012 - 10:33pm.

"This bitch is crazier than a pillowcase full of clear-level scientologist possums."

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Why are people so stupid? Native Americans (however many are left) were annihilated by the US government. We don't get to make their customs/rituals/clothes into pop music dance moves and fashion accessories. SMDH.

Submitted by Pas_De_Chat on Sun, 11/04/2012 - 6:25pm.
Granted I'm just a white woman and swimming in privilege so thick I can't even see it, but fellow white people...

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YAY! a voice of reason.

If someone tells me I'm doing something that offends them and their cultural heritage, to the point where it hurts, I fucking stop. And I apologize. I don't fuck with the person further by saying they are being too sensitive, and back in the good old days nobody complained, and blah blah blah. I don't need to give them my permission to be offended. I don't even need them to school me on *why* they are offended.

Is this complicated? I don't think so.

And the word "Indian" is used a lot - witness the "American Indian Movement". Or "The International Indian Treaty Council". I hear the word used a lot by Native Americans themselves. I generally don't use it, because I don't feel comfortable with it.

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Submitted by CandyPerfumeGirl on Sun, 11/04/2012 - 6:25pm.
There goes freedom of speech again.

Thing is, in a free society even bigots are and should be allowed to express their opinions. That is the thing with freedom of speech. It cant go one way only. As long as they do not directly incite violence by calling to arms and attacks, they should be able to say what they want. If it offends some people well too bad. We cant just pick and choose when we adhere to it.

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So, when I or others are critical on this site of Obama based upon his policies and accused of being a racist, what the Hell is that?

To quite a few of you, this is selective racism and prejudice.

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squirrels to the nuts!

There is no common sense anymore.

Granted I'm just a white woman and swimming in privilege so thick I can't even see it, but fellow white people:
1. If you think it's cool to dress up as what you think is "just how another race is," stop.
2. If a person of color tells you what you're doing is offensive, don't fight them on it. Stop.
It's not a case of being "too sensitive." She's all tied up and writhing with guns pointed at her. She's playing pretend about a Native American woman being abducted and tied up by white men. She's playing at the suffering and humiliations of a whole culture of people.

Gwen's obviously into bondage, I can think of at least four other videos of hers where she was tied up right off the top of my head, and I'm not even a ND fan. Nothing wrong with that, except I think it's much hotter when it's guys who are tied up. To each their own.

I think the costumes in this video are beautiful, visually. But it's extremely fucked up that they used this theme. This is something I would have expected to see in a music video from the 1970s or even earlier.

I actually found it more offensive when Gwen was dragging those Japanese girls around with her and pretending only she could see them and that they could not speak english.

There goes freedom of speech again.

Thing is, in a free society even bigots are and should be allowed to express their opinions. That is the thing with freedom of speech. It cant go one way only. As long as they do not directly incite violence by calling to arms and attacks, they should be able to say what they want. If it offends some people well too bad. We cant just pick and choose when we adhere to it. And Gwen took it down becasue it was gonna hurt the bottom line, not because she really thinks it ought not to be made.
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Look if you come up to me and say "Indian" I am thinking that you mean East Indian/Asian subcontinent, not Indian of the Cowboy and Indians. That is something they used to say in the 70s but no educated person refers to native americans as indians anymore.
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Submitted by purin on Sun, 11/04/2012 - 4:27pm.
Kinda silly of them to make this video. A whole culture is not there for Gwen to play dress up. Good for them taking it down. However Gwen has a history of appropiation with Jamaican, Japanese, Rastafarian and Chicano cultures

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Is it bad that I really liked that she did the whole chola/Mexican thing? She's always had that kind of look: thin brows, red lipstick, wife beaters with words written in Gothic Script, sneakers, baggy jeans and the belts with a G on it....

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I am so with Luann. All this bullitcal corectmess is out of control, fucking sick of it. ND needed to stir up some controversy so this was planned way in advance, no doubt.

I never liked her/them and now I don't need an excuse.

Can Be A Pushy Broad - you wanted a book about what to say and what not to say. In my experience, people of color are writing about racism and oppression cinstantly - the people who need to read those books cant be bothered, and would rather complain about how 'sensitive' everyone else is being.

squiggles posted a great link, as did I. if you're really interested in learning more, the information is out there.

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I forgot that she tried to be black there for a while.

Although we consulted with Native American friends and Native American studies experts at the University of California

LOLgasm. Yeah ... and I love to consult with my black friend every time I want to say the N-word.

Is there a culture left that she hasn't appropriated yet? She wanted to make sure she wasn't offending the Native Americans by leaving them out of her hipster racism agenda is all.

People are getting to be way too sensitive about everything. I wonder when someone will start bitching about the sky being too blue.

Ugh. GS's Harajuku girls crap made me really uncomfortable, too. Enough.

For those interested, here's a blog that a friend happened to post on FB a while back. Made me feel pretty ignorant. Doesn't address this video but if you scroll through, it explains a lot about what's behind the shitstorm.

http://nativeappropriations.blogspot.com/

Yo! Being half Italian-Sicilian, I demand that Capital One and Jimmy Fallon cease and desist with the "fifty percent more samolians", and "a-fifty percent-a more dough-a" caricturistic depictions of my people! Heeeeeeeeeeeey!

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When did everyone become so fucking sensitive?
If you don't like it just say Fuck you and move on, you can't even fart these days without someone taking offence, In saying that the song is a disaster, with horrendous lyrics, This woman has no talent. Another overated, manufactured pop singer with no real credentials and a husband who fucks guys. She needs to ditch the platinum blond, it's doing her no favours.

Never actually turned on the sound. I'm open to personally instructing Mrs. Rossdale in anti-bigotry and diversity. I could remove that costume and help her relax...

I find those old Warner Brothers cartoon less offensive than this shitty video, because they didn't have this stupid albino skank who can't get over the past in them.

R-E-T-I-R-E assholes.

Someone needs to come out with a book saying what is OK to say and what is not OK to say.
and if there's bondage in this video (no interest in watching) boy, people are going to have a field day when that 50 shades comes out.

and I don't like her voice at all. Cute kids though.

Submitted by bitchSpray on Sun, 11/04/2012 - 5:01pm.
was this offensive because there were no casinos?

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Wow, you must have just refilled up your bottle of bitch spray and used it liberally.

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Both song & video are horrible! It's like a really bad Madonna video.

"I think about it alooooot." HA, I hate this song just because of that stupid lyric. (Skip to 1:20 to hear her say "I think about it alooot.")

Their 15 minutes of fame have long gone. Besides, shitty song and an even shittier video.... Somebody should tell this fake bitch she's already 43, not 23, not even 33....

I just don't get the hullabaloo. Like no other cultures are the target of this type of thing.

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