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Submitted by Lurker: "OT: I work for an upscale, luxury catering company in Austin, and we do most of our business with TX state gov. offices.

Since I'm a chatty caterer, I easily make friends with the secretaries, the assistants, the janitors, the low-paid contract employees, etc. You know, the ones who really keep this town running.... I hear EVERYTHING about Gov. Perry, and I am honestly SHOCKED he hasn't been outed yet."

HAHAHAHHAA! Knew it.

And honestly, I don't understand why some higher-ups are so snobby to the "little people". First of all, it's just shitty. And secondly, it's stupid. The janitors and secretaries, security are the people you *want* to be friendly with. They know everything and can make your life easier or more difficult. I know this, because I used to be a secretary. Rude to me? Ooops, you're not getting through to him now.

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OT: I work for an upscale, luxury catering company in Austin, and we do most of our business with TX state gov. offices.

Since I'm a chatty caterer, I easily make friends with the secretaries, the assistants, the janitors, the low-paid contract employees, etc. You know, the ones who really keep this town running.... I hear EVERYTHING about Gov. Perry, and I am honestly SHOCKED he hasn't been outed yet. Some of the people I've talked to have actually had to sign contracts/been paid off to say they haven't seen/see nothing. I even know one guy with FIRST HAND PHYSICAL evidence, who has said nothing, because "it's not worth my career, or the damage to my family or social life."

PS- Mr. Perry likes to prey on young-looking, early twenties intern-types. He likes them to look professional, athletic but still slim, well-dressed, and sociable. Males only. Mrs. Perry actually hasn't lived with him in about 7-8 years, but does live close by so they can keep the appearance of living together.

Submitted by Tigerlilly on Thu, 11/15/2012 - 8:18pm.
....No one wants to hear about sexy times with Elmo...(Ok, some of you whores do, but I'm talking about normal people...:-)
Of course, in the back of my mind I'll always wonder if Elmo did actually diddle this kid when he was 16 and the kid took hush money...but I won't believe it with the conviction that I once did for sure. If Elmo is truly 100% innocent, I feel bad for him. This was a TERRIBLE thing to do to him.
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Girl! Speak for yourself! I wanna get me a sexy Elmo costume.

Anyhoos, the point is moot. Whenever you work in something like this, kids especially, you got to keep it CLEAN. Even if the kid was 18, people with kids are going to give Elmo the side-eye.

Submitted by Cluny Brown on Thu, 11/15/2012

*My issue with this situation is the fact that Clash works in an industry that involves young children. This isn't just creepy, he should be fired.

As I said before, I don't believe this is his first relationship with a young man either. People have preferences and habits.
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So because he works on a children's show, the man is not allowed to have a private/sex life? Is that what you're saying? So teachers, in the school system, shouldn't be married or have sex lives either? Are you catholic by any chance?

Anyway, that's ridiculous. This man is allowed to have a private sex/life. 18 is of legal age/consent, and just because he is in his 40s/50s doesn't mean because he had a relationship with an 18 year old, that he likes "children." That's just a ridiculous and slanderous assumption to make, especially when you have zero proof.

I also think the reason why people are getting up in arms about it, is because it was a 18 year old boy, and not a girl. People, in spite of not realizing still hold double standards, except it's involving to sexuality, instead of gender. (girls being sluts/boys being studs)

Secondly, I might give a thought to your opinion (probably wouldn't agree, but still), had the guy not recanted, and then all the dirt about his grifting and black mailing/and thieving ways didn't come to light.

Stop making a liar and a petty criminal a voice of reasoning for your victim advocacy it's not right for actual victims, and it's not right for Kevin Clash because he didn't do anything wrong. The only thing he is guilty of is not picking partners wisely. He picked a con, hopefully he learns from it.
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Tiger Lily:

Thank you very much. I thoroughly enjoy civility. Too often on this site, people call names and don't bother to understand a divergent opinion.

And, yes, I do believe that people that work with children need to be held to high standards because of the innocent trusting nature that is a child's mind.

May I ask you what is your opinion of this unfortunate situation?

Also, I also believe that people who are entrusted with caring for an animal need to be vigilant because animals are very often a silent witness to neglect and abuse. (I had to mention this because it is my mission for the rest of my life to care for those animals that have been dumped upon my doorstep or come across my path. Right now, horses are suffering horrendous conditions all over the U.S. because of the cost of hay.)

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squirrels to the nuts!

It looks like he does that lip lick thing all the time.

Submitted by Cluny Brown on Thu, 11/15/2012 - 10:58pm.
Submitted by Cluny Brown on Thu, 11/15/2012 - 10:26pm.
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Ok, I get you on an emotional level, I do...BUT should someone lose their job, their living, over an allegation, one that's shady at best? That's not what you're saying, right?

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Absolutely not, that would be wrong in every sense of the word.

This is not an allegation. This was a relationship confirmed by Clash.

If, Sheldon was the age of consent when the relationship happened, I still believe he should be fired based upon the same grounds that a priest should be removed from his position if he had a sexual relationship with a girl or boy who were at least 18. No, it is not illegal but it is highly inappropriate given the respected position and level of trust inherent of the position. Clash, in my opinion is also in a very respected, visible, highly trusted position. Sesame Street has been an worldwide institution since 1969. It is like Santa Claus.
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I see what you're saying. I don't know that I agree with it, but I see what you're saying. I think (correct me if I'm wrong) what you're basically saying is those who work around children should be held to a higher standard of (for lack of a better word) morality because we put our trust in them.
It's kind of like lawyers can be disbarred for shady seeming shit regarding the law whether they did that shit or not.
Yeah, again, on an emotional level, I can see 'better safe than sorry' kind of thing, but I also see too many problems with false allegations and privacy rights to 100% get behind what you're saying, so I can't.
Anyway, you give food for thought on that notion which is why I don't like to attack people I disagree with. I think you learn more by talking with them.
I actually enjoyed our little tete a tete. I think you are very, very intelligent and well meaning...and wrong. No, just kidding.
We agree to disagree, but I really did like hearing what you had to say. You did make me think. There's no perfect solution. I'll give you that.

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Submitted by elmo533 on Thu, 11/15/2012 - 9:43pm.

I lived in Austin for 5 years. Everyone in the scene knew Rick Perry was a giant homo. It makes sense it's always the ones at the front of the anti-gay parade...

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Submitted by Tiger Lily on Thu,
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Ok, I get you on an emotional level, I do...BUT should someone lose their job, their living, over an allegation, one that's shady at best? That's not what you're saying, right?

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Absolutely not, that would be wrong in every sense of the word.

This is not an allegation. This was a relationship confirmed by Clash.

If, Sheldon was the age of consent when the relationship happened, I still believe he should be fired based upon the same grounds that a priest should be removed from his position if he had a sexual relationship with a girl or boy who were at least 18. No, it is not illegal but it is highly inappropriate given the respected position and level of trust inherent of the position. Clash, in my opinion is also in a very respected, visible, highly trusted position. Sesame Street has been an worldwide institution since 1969. It is like Santa Claus.

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squirrels to the nuts!

Elmo533, you would have a vested interest in the outcome of this grand scandale! Elmo's name is in question! lol at "lying through his thin lips and dainty mustache." pencil thin, haha :)

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Submitted by Cluny Brown on Thu, 11/15/2012 - 10:26pm.
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Ok, I get you on an emotional level, I do...BUT should someone lose their job, their living, over an allegation, one that's shady at best? That's not what you're saying, right?
If this kid was of the age of consent when they had sex, he (Elmo) did nothing wrong under the law. My question would be on what grounds should he be fired and/or what law should be enacted so that he could be fired with only an allegation? Again, I'm not baiting you, I'm just asking.

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Submitted by Tigerlilly on Thu, 11/15/2012 - 9:47pm.

I just want to ask you a question, I'm not trying to bait you or argue with you or whatever. Ok, let's say for the sake of argument that the kid was 18 or over when the relationship aka sex happened. This makes it legal...Creepy, sure, but legal. So, are you saying in this scenario and we're talking about just this scenario right now, you think the age of consent should be above 18?

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No, I don't believe the law should be changed.
You will find vastly different levels of maturity of people at 18. Some may be equipped to successfully handle a relationship others will not.

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And, let's explore the scenario that maybe a sexual relationship DID happen between these two before the age of consent. Are you saying if the victim agrees to recount his allegations for a cash settlement that the alleged perp should be prosecuted anyway?

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If the victim agrees to recount allegations for monies exchanged, then there is no legal recourse I believe. I am not a lawyer.

In a perfect world, that should never be possible. If an illegal act has been committed, then nothing should come between the crime and it being prosecuted.

*My issue with this situation is the fact that Clash works in an industry that involves young children. This isn't just creepy, he should be fired.

As I said before, I don't believe this is his first relationship with a young man either. People have preferences and habits.

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squirrels to the nuts!

TMZ sucks. They have printed false accusations before and portrayed it as insider truth and for whatever reason never come clean about how they could have been so wrong when things are cleared up elsewhere.

Homeboy looks like the lovechild of Zoolander and a pipefish.

Submitted by Cluny Brown on Thu, 11/15/2012 - 9:14pm.
This is from the New York Daily News:

"Aspiring model Sheldon Stephens was identified by The Smoking Gun as the person who nearly destroyed “Sesame Street” muppeteer Kevin Clash’s career by claiming he had a relationship with the 52-year-old when he was just 16. Clash said they were consenting adults."

So, Clash admits the relationship. Nothing else matters in my book.
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I just want to ask you a question, I'm not trying to bait you or argue with you or whatever. Ok, let's say for the sake of argument that the kid was 18 or over when the relationship aka sex happened. This makes it legal...Creepy, sure, but legal. So, are you saying in this scenario and we're talking about just this scenario right now, you think the age of consent should be above 18?
And, let's explore the scenario that maybe a sexual relationship DID happen between these two before the age of consent. Are you saying if the victim agrees to recount his allegations for a cash settlement that the alleged perp should be prosecuted anyway? I'm seriously just asking because that's a useless prosecution. So, what are you saying should happen? Again, I'm just asking, I'm not judging, just trying to understand your position.

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Submitted by LaChaylo on Thu, 11/15/2012 - 2:00pm.
Nanners, I'm still waiting on someone to nail Rick Perry. The gay community in Austin is rife with stories!
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I fucking hate Rick Perry and his helmet hair. He acts as if he's been Governor for so long cause he's so great, not cause he's a republican in a solidly republican state. And his wife is a rude cunty bitch.

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I ALWAYS BELIEVED IN YOU ELMO!!! I mean Kevin. I knew there was no way he got paid and he was lying through his thin lips and dainty mustache.

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"Somewhere, Jennifer Love Hewitt is vagazzling the words "FUCK MY LIFE" onto her crotch while deep throating a Pillsbury cookie dough roll".--MK

This is from the New York Daily News:

"Aspiring model Sheldon Stephens was identified by The Smoking Gun as the person who nearly destroyed “Sesame Street” muppeteer Kevin Clash’s career by claiming he had a relationship with the 52-year-old when he was just 16. Clash said they were consenting adults."

So, Clash admits the relationship. Nothing else matters in my book.

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squirrels to the nuts!

I'm sure it's been said, but "has always attracted high-powered men." = trade. His eyes are too close together and he's hurting his modeling chances not going for the starving twink look while he's still young enough to pull it off. This one will be featured in a Chi Chi Larue in the next six months, trust.

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Submitted by Foxxy Brown on Thu, 11/15/2012 - 6:29pm.

did you even read the fucking post up there gladys? did you read his past criminal history and exactly what MK said about no proof of a settlement, the attorney getting kicked out of the law firm and the firm disavowing themselves of involvement in this matter?

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I think that the problem lies in your lack of reading "comprehension". I noticed it last night when I was asking specific questions and you do not have the intellectual capacity to respond in point.

I fully comprehend the situation. I just don't happen to agree with your take on it. You think that if this kid is a flake or a petty thief that that somehow negates the fact that a relationship did happen between him and Clash as admitted by Clash. I happen to think that Clash is a creep, like many Catholic priests that use their position to prey upon young men and boys.

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Submitted by LaChaylo on Thu, 11/15/2012 - 6:36pm.
Cluny, never address me again, whether in your present incarnation or any future ones you decide to log in as.

Your crap is tired, weak, and boring and I don't want any part of it.

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So, it is fair game for you to insult and besmirch any and all Republicans or conservatives and when I challenge or respond, then you act like a child and say "no fair, don't talk to me"? Grow up. You can dish it, but can't take it. Too fucking bad.

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squirrels to the nuts!

BTW.. for those that are curious, this is a picture of Ed Gordon from BET Nightly News!

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Kid kinda looks like a Muppet.

Well, I, for one, am glad I was wrong about Elmo. I didn't want to be right, but as Within Reason said, you have to give the benefit of the doubt to underage accusers in these cases. Look at Sandusky's victims.
I understand the burden of proof in a court of law, but I'm talking about opinion. My opinion was that Elmo diddled this kid when he was underaged.
Now it's clear this person can't be trusted. Yeah, he could have been paid off to recant his accusations because they were true (which is what I originally thought) but along with the recantation comes this mess which further damages his credibility.
If he was given money by Elmo, it could have been so he has to keep his pie hole shut about the adult consensual sexy times they did. That makes sense. He's Elmo for Christ's sake. No one wants to hear about sexy times with Elmo...(Ok, some of you whores do, but I'm talking about normal people...:-)
Of course, in the back of my mind I'll always wonder if Elmo did actually diddle this kid when he was 16 and the kid took hush money...but I won't believe it with the conviction that I once did for sure. If Elmo is truly 100% innocent, I feel bad for him. This was a TERRIBLE thing to do to him.

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i also hope he will get a defamation lawsuit... but one has to blame tmz as well. it seems to me they don't care how their "victims" feel. just think of the fight between dina and lindsay which michael lohan whored out to them. 1 day later they do tmz live with lindsay... disgusting.

always attracted "high-powered men." High-powered men?! Bitch, Kevin Clash is the voice of Elmo and he might have the power to tell you that today's episode is brought to you by the letter A, but that's about it. Bitch is acting like Sheldon got it on with the Director of the CIA or something.

LMAO - This is why I hit up this site so frequently, MK - that is the funniest shit I've read today. I can always count on you to bring out the grade A (sometimes on the x-side) humor. Love U MK!!!

I hope this little fucker gets what he deserves...a defamation lawsuit.

LOL @ the few people defending this little con artist.

What's next? Defending Hohan? She is a con artist and a thief too but at least she doesn't hold people up at knifepoint like this little psycho does.

@pushy -- no worries, thanks for asking the question. yeah, it had its own news shows and anchors and field reporters, and public interest talk shows, and DONNIE SIMPSON as the video show host. (swoon) and there was a video show not all day long day in and day out ass shakin

my fantasy team is tanked thanks for asking - fuck "high ankle sprains" a thousand times!!!!

thanks for the advice - i know i know i know. can't help it sometimes lol

take care, i have to get back to work. hope ur in OP later!

"Voodoo is forgetting who's the john and who's the whore." MK, 3/20/12

Submitted by Foxxy Brown on Thu, 11/15/2012 - 6:35pm.
whoosh (don't know how to make that sound:)
I'll check it out Foxy. I don't know what it used to be like--didn't have cable for a long time. But what I watch---No kids for sure.
I mean it's raunchy. Bad Bad language, even for me and I have a gutter mouth--sometimes:)
You have a good night Foxxy.
Hope your fantasy football is doing great.
Try to ignore you know who. I wanted to come at her a couple of weeks ago when she told me to grow a pair but I didn't. Not worth the effort.
You know what I mean. Besides how in the hell can you grow a pair when you have a pussy:)
That would be just really weird.

That is one SERIOUS case of DURRRRRR face.

Cluny, never address me again, whether in your present incarnation or any future ones you decide to log in as.

Your crap is tired, weak, and boring and I don't want any part of it.

Submitted by can be a pushy broad on Thu, 11/15/2012 - 6:32pm.

not at all! when you have a chance wiki and/or google BET history. it was something very different during the 80s when it first came on the air. even the founder's daughter has publicly said the family is ashamed at what it has become since sold and she will not allow her children to watch

"Voodoo is forgetting who's the john and who's the whore." MK, 3/20/12

"Submitted by can be a pushy broad on Thu, 11/15/2012 - 6:20pm.

Is BET Black Entertainment Network? I watch that occasionally. There's some good comedians on there. Are you guys saying it's cool or not cool.
Whatever. I like the comedy shows."

lol yea that's BET. And since cool is uncool and uncool is way cool these days, it's entirely subjective!

Submitted by Foxxy Brown on Thu, 11/15/2012 - 6:25pm
Foxy, why you deep sigh? I'm really not naive I just don't know, I feel like I might have offended you in. Did I?

"Bitch, Kevin Clash is the voice of Elmo and he might have the power to tell you that today's episode is brought to you by the letter A, but that's about it." <------This made me choke on my diet coke. Seriously.

Submitted by Cluny Brown on Thu, 11/15/2012 - 5:47pm.

Submitted by Foxxy Brown on Thu, 11/15/2012 - 2:20pm.
fuck that, gladys and the rest of you who continue to defend this person up there. he is a shitty little wanna be opportunist who got exposed for living the ass selling life that he created for himself AS AN ADULT. he is a grown ass man who is responsible for THIS decision. even if abuse by others caused him to develop into someone that is clearly "broken"

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I call utter bullshit on your statement. Unless you have first hand knowledge, you are just pulling this out of your ass.

did you even read the fucking post up there gladys? did you read his past criminal history and exactly what MK said about no proof of a settlement, the attorney getting kicked out of the law firm and the firm disavowing themselves of involvement in this matter?

and, were i to pull ANY statement that i make on dlisted out of my ass or any other orifice i would only be following your consistent, day-to-day lead

*tags bambam* bambam, you're in.

"Voodoo is forgetting who's the john and who's the whore." MK, 3/20/12

Submitted by can be a pushy broad on Thu, 11/15/2012 - 6:20pm.

*deep sigh* yes, that is what i am told it is supposed to still be called ... *deep sigh*

/it started off so well back in the 80s ...

"Voodoo is forgetting who's the john and who's the whore." MK, 3/20/12

The Chicken Dance Elmo doll molested my baby. For reals. It flaps it's wings and moves up and down, and when my baby sat on it's foot, (which turns it on) it started gyrating and grinding my baby boy from the back. Then later, I look over, and the Kizzelet is standing with his hand on Chicken Dance Elmo's head, and Chicken Dance's head was in his crotchtal region, just bobbing away. Was disturbing. Truly.

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Damn, I'm missing all the fun and I'm in an arguing mood today. Oh well...

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Is BET Black Entertainment Network? I watch that occasionally. There's some good comedians on there. Are you guys saying it's cool or not cool.
Whatever. I like the comedy shows.

Submitted by dementa on Thu, 11/15/2012 - 1:57pm.

What kind of freak would have sex with someone who, in the middle of fuckytimes, would start squeaking, "Elmo loves this! Elmo wants your cock! Elmo is coming… wahahahahaha!"

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LOLLLLLLL! "Diddle Me Elmo" needs to be a doll now.

Michael K stop playing you would do him lol

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Submitted by Foxxy Brown on Thu, 11/15/2012 - 2:20pm.
fuck that, gladys and the rest of you who continue to defend this person up there. he is a shitty little wanna be opportunist who got exposed for living the ass selling life that he created for himself AS AN ADULT. he is a grown ass man who is responsible for THIS decision. even if abuse by others caused him to develop into someone that is clearly "broken"

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I call utter bullshit on your statement. Unless you have first hand knowledge, you are just pulling this out of your ass.

And IF Clash did prey upon this kid, he also did it to many others, I guarantee it. That would make him a predatory pervert of the worst kind.

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@Foxxy Brown HAAA you see it too? YES! And we bitches need to form a "I watched BET Nightly News" support group, because shit gets real sometimes.