Amanda Peet Or Jenny McCarthy: Who Would Win In A Cage Fight?

Submitted by Sheeps,
And remember when Jordan brought her little measle kid on a flight from UK to US? I was really upset by all the people she endangered by that stunt. That and drug the kid all over LA for photo ops...sick.

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Submitted by Sheeps on July 10, 2008 - 5:50pm.

Hi Sheeps darling. I just posted a link to a similar story -- we actually got the largest outbreak of measels here in years thanks to the new population of the unvaccinated.
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my hillbilly cousin once yelled at her unvaccinated kid because she tried to grab a pickle from the table. "no, ashley! those are full of alum and will give you brain damage!" then she took a toke of her virginia slim with the kid still standing there.

flash-forward 15 years: little ashley got knocked up in high school and had a cute little drug problem for a while.

moral of the story: all these bitches is morons. as chris rock says, "your only job as a parent is to keep your daughter off the stripper pole."

Submitted by Sheeps on July 10, 2008 - 3:50pm.

Scroll down...I linked to an article in today's New York Times about this very topic.

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See? Dlist IS edifying.
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So, I'm a bit confused and no I'm not a parent and this is the first I am hearing about anti-vaccinating.
And as another poster stated, I too was shot up with all that crap and all I ever got as a kid was chicken pox. And I have heard of children not getting sick, etc...A good friend of mine was like that when she was young and now she is plagued with a multitude of allergies and bronchial problems, so the whole healthy as a kid is not a guarantee.
Now, my query, so if you were to travel say, to a country that required certain shots to enter it or you were transferred and it was mandatory in said country, what do the anti parents do then?
All my friends that have kids, little kids, have all gotten them vaccinated.
So are there kids in some kind of danger now?

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I heard a news story today on the rise of measles worldwide because parents fear vaccination. I guess measles are running wild in the UK now. The MD who commented said studies have dispelled (I think he said "discredited") any link with autism.

Team Peet and I agree with Topenga-- people need to blame it on something. As for people who do not vaccinate their kids, keep those kids away from me and my family as well as the old and infirm. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Germs/wireStory?id=5342957

Some vaccines many not be necessary but many are essential for public health purposes.
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Here's how vaccines are supposed to work:

let's say 90% of kids are vaccinated. the remaining 10% have what's called "herd immunity," which means because the other 90% will probably never get sick, then the 10% won't have anyone to catch polio from.

if that ratio starts to be affected by more kids not being vaccinated, then the chances of those non-immunized kids getting sick increase greatly. All it takes is one kid to get mumps and all those non-vaccinated kids will be done for.

and cholera isn't an illness that's vaccinated against.

Jenny McCarthy is NOT anti-vaccine. She is in favour of greening vaccines-that is getting the mercury, alumnium and other heavy metals out of them. Nothing radical there.

I agree that its super scary how many vaccinations they give to our kids in a short amount of time. Whats the rush?? They arent even in school yet...they have like 4-5 years...so lets just slow down and maybe space out all the shots.

I just want my kids protected and I want to stay informed. There is just so much opinion and speculation....we could go on all day.

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I don't have any kids, I don't really have an opinion on this.I just wanted to throw it out there that my mother swears that my youngest (autistic) brother was a perfectly normal baby until he got vaccinated. She claimed this long,long before anyone ever mentioned autism/vaccinations in the media (like early 80's).

Submitted by DebFrmHell on July 10, 2008 - 3:40pm.

You can apply them directly to my ass!
I am down 14 pounds, 10 more to go!!!

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FFS if it's not one thing it's another!!!!

"Common antidepressants and other drugs can increase the risk for falls among patients over 65."

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"There is no such thing as a moral or immoral book. Books are well written, or badly written. That is all." - Oscar Wilde

My child is Autistic, but I also know that they should have vaccines, just not on the massive schedule of 6 in one office visit. You give them 1 or 2 at a time. Dr. Sears has the schedule to follow.

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Submitted by pompom on July 10, 2008 - 5:03pm.

ran around the neighborhood exposed to sun,
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I just know that that is the cause of my wrinkles so I plan on suing my mother for NOT using sunscreen on me.

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The only cookie magazine features the world famous NeimanMarcus Cookies ((I change it around somewhat)) and I will be happy to make some this week for you Mrs. K.

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Submitted by pompom on July 10, 2008 - 5:03pm.

Would be the most boring cage fight in history...

It is amazing - when I was at school we were vaccinated up the ying yang, weren't strapped into car seats until we were nine years old (yes, I know they are good for infants bla bla bla, but I read something today about them being used for kids up to 9), weren't necessarily breast fed, ran around the neighborhood exposed to sun, germs and all sorts of crap, and amazingly, we survived.

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Submitted by lovemykids on July 10, 2008 - 4:05pm.
This comment is ignorant because if you really believe in vaccinations, and your child is vaccinated, then you believe that your child is 100% protected against that virus. So why would you care about a child that is not? No matter what your child is exposed to, they will not get the disease, right?

The reality is that vaccines are not a 100% safety net. In every outbreak, 75%-95% of the population that gets the disease has been vaccinated.
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Thank you! Well thought-out & stated.

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This is an interesting discussion, and one of the more intellectual ones for us Dlisters. My father's family came over from Italy in 1912 and there is a picture of my grandmother as a little girl stading next to her brother who has braces on his legs from polio. He died shortly after that picture was taken and I can't imagine how hard it is to lose a child, not to mention losing all your children to outbrakes of diseases like that. Those were hard times and not something we want coming back in today's society. It is an important decision and obviously one that we need to be better informed about. I hope by the time I decide to have children there has been more research to answer all of these questions about vaccinations.

Madam S, Cookie Magazine is your favorite.

Submitted by madam s. on July 10, 2008 - 3:23pm.
Ahhaha Mrs. K.,

You're making this VERY difficult for Cookie Magazine to recruit you as a new subscriber.
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"There is no such thing as a moral or immoral book. Books are well written, or badly written. That is all." - Oscar Wilde

Thanks CTH and PSL. My boys are 13 and 15. I don't they are vaccine-damaged (I think autism is like cancer in that you can have it triggered from different sources, genetic, environmental factors, a combination of things, or some other unknown variable), but I have friends who feel strongly their children are vaccine-damaged. This is a lifetime of treatment and expense and basically taking care of your children for the rest of their lives, including when you yourself are elderly. You don't think of that when your pediatrician says you need this and this and this and this and all today and the kid is six days old.

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Ahhaha Mrs. K.,

You're making this VERY difficult for Cookie Magazine to recruit you as a new subscriber.

STFU Amanda Peet.

Team Jenny on this one.
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Submitted by madam s. on July 10, 2008 - 3:15pm.
Mrs. K.,

I heard that if you read Cookie Magazine enough they get all rejuvenated and perky again.
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"There is no such thing as a moral or immoral book. Books are well written, or badly written. That is all." - Oscar Wilde

I'm seriously not trying to be insensitive or anything, especially when it comes to the issue of children. But, I think that Jenny is looking for something/someone to blame for her son's autism. There is no real legitimate/scientific truth that "too many vaccines" are linked to autism. If that was the case, how come there are some low income children, who's parent's can't afford vaccinations suffering from autism? Celebrities really need to think before they start opening their mouth about medical/scientific issues.

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Mrs. K.,

I heard that if you read Cookie Magazine enough they get all rejuvenated and perky again.

I.V., I didn't even know you had kids!

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Submitted by Albino Squirrel on July 10, 2008 - 3:11pm.
3. I think it is a law in the state of CA that you have to be vaccinated to go to school.

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Every state allows medical exemptions, and most permit exemptions based on religious practices. But an increasing number of the vaccine skeptics belong to a different group -- those who object to the inoculations because of their personal beliefs, often related to an unproven notion that vaccines are linked to autism and other disorders.

Twenty states, including California, Ohio and Texas, allow some kind of personal exemption, according to a tally by the Johns Hopkins University.

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Submitted by madam s. on July 10, 2008 - 3:06pm.
Mrs. K.,

Secretly subscribing to Cookie Magazine for you is Pudge's way of letting you know he's ready to start the procreatin'.
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"There is no such thing as a moral or immoral book. Books are well written, or badly written. That is all." - Oscar Wilde

Ok, not a fan of McCarthy or Peet but here is how I see it.

1. Yes, I do think that women having children much later in life/using fertility drugs has a lot to do with the increase of autism.
2. As far as I know, McCarthy is against vaccines with high amounts of Mercury and the overall practice of over-vaccintating at young ages. She has said there are natural alternative vaccines which she wants to promote.
3. I think it is a law in the state of CA that you have to be vaccinated to go to school.
4. The whole no sunscreen thing doesn't mean she's spraying the baby with PAM or anything, she probably covers her up in long sleeves and such.

Ok, I'm done.

Submitted by lovemykids on July 10, 2008 - 3:05pm.

But back to the comment at hand...This comment is ignorant because if you really believe in vaccinations, and your child is vaccinated, then you believe that your child is 100% protected against that virus. So why would you care about a child that is not? No matter what your child is exposed to, they will not get the disease, right?

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I really have no opinion on this topic however, there was an article about this very subject in todays New York Times.

"Children who are not vaccinated are unnecessarily susceptible to serious illnesses, they say, but also present a danger to children who have had their shots -- the measles vaccine, for instance, is only 95 percent effective -- and to those children too young to receive certain vaccines."

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wow. a member for 15 min. and types a bible in 12...new record.

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Submitted by ImpertinentVixen on July 10, 2008 - 5:08pm.

I didn't know that about your family.
hugs and an ass slap!
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One of the problems is that there's so much information (much of it faulty) available to people nowadays. Of course the big problem is that everyone thinks they're more clever than they really are.

As the parent of two autistic kids, I would never make judgements on whether parents choose to vaccinate or not. It is not only the ingredients in the vaccines but the exceedingly rigid schedule and the amount of vaccines given at once that are also of concern.

Also, it's easy to be "for" vaccines once your child has been vaccinated and suffered no ill effects. If your child has, it's too late.

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I think it would be interesting if old people got anti-Alzheimer's disease where they slowly began to recover other people's lost memories. - George Carlin

Ahhahaa mike!

He writes a guest column every month.

Oh, and vaccinations aside, Cookie Magazine is foul.

Mrs. K.,

Secretly subscribing to Cookie Magazine for you is Pudge's way of letting you know he's ready to start the procreatin'.

This comment is beyond ignorant. I have been researching the vaccine issue extensively for 5 years. There is no perfect answer to the issue, just pro's and con's each parent needs to weigh. Anyone who is saying there is no link to autism has NOT researched this issue. Listening to a couple of news reports is not going to educate you on this topic. Beyond autism there are other potential impacts that can be triggered by weakening the immune system by exposing your child to numerous diseases prior to the age of 2. If you are going to comment, please take the time to educate yourself.

But back to the comment at hand...This comment is ignorant because if you really believe in vaccinations, and your child is vaccinated, then you believe that your child is 100% protected against that virus. So why would you care about a child that is not? No matter what your child is exposed to, they will not get the disease, right?

The reality is that vaccines are not a 100% safety net. In every outbreak, 75%-95% of the population that gets the disease has been vaccinated.

I made an informed decision about vaccinations and decided against it. My children are ridiculously healthy. My daughter is almost 3 and has not even had a cold that warranted a Dr's visit. How many children do you know that is that old and is never sick? And yes my child is put into multiple settings with children every week so she is exposed to various things. At the same rate, as healthy as she is, I don't see her exposing any other child to anything either. My almost 5 year old son has been to the Dr less than 5 times with not one single infection of any sort.

I find it HUGELY OFFENSIVE for any parent to call another parent a "parasite" for exercising their RIGHT to make a decision to promote their child’s health. I don't criticize other parents for their decision to vaccinate because I know everyone is doing the best they can to make the best choices possible for their child and it is an emotional decision.

Team Peet!

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& what really sucks about autism spectrum is that it tends to affect people who would otherwise be recognized as above average in intelligence (Aspergers).

I'll be Team No Vaccination if it triggers infertility in stupid people -- too bad Jamie Lynn Spears has already reproduced.

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Submitted by madam s. on July 10, 2008 - 2:55pm.
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A copy showed up at my house a few weeks ago. I was like all "WTF is this?!?!?!?!"

Michael Jackson's the author of Get Ready For Date Night, right?

Team Jenny, although my child is vaccinated. To each their own. There's no need to call parents parasites because their views are different, grow up.

Would be the most boring cage fight in history...

It is amazing - when I was at school we were vaccinated up the ying yang, weren't strapped into car seats until we were nine years old (yes, I know they are good for infants bla bla bla, but I read something today about them being used for kids up to 9), weren't necessarily breast fed, ran around the neighborhood exposed to sun, germs and all sorts of crap, and amazingly, we survived.

Submitted by madam s. on July 10, 2008 - 2:55pm.
Cookie Magazine is the only news source you'll ever need.
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A copy showed up at my house a few weeks ago. I was like all "WTF is this?!?!?!?!"

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It wasn't the idea of VACCINATIONS themselves, but old vaccinations with potentially harmful preservatives in them. What a dumbass. People can explicitly ask for newer vaccinations.

Anyway I'm pretty sure that shit's already been debunked, and this is coming from someone who is very close to an autistic person and people who keep up with that stuff.

Amanda's baby is so cute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, the Autism increase is very scary these days. I think it is a combo of women having kids later, environment (toxins), and the food we eat OR rather what is put in the food. Although I am no expert on this subject. I don't think it is over diagnosed bc/ you tell when a kid is Autistic or Asbergers(sp) when you start to interact w/ the child.

Amanda's baby is so cute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, the Autism increase is very scary these days. I think it is a combo of women having kids later, environment (toxins), and the food we eat OR rather what is put in the food. Although I am no expert on this subject. I don't think it is over diagnosed bc/ you tell when a kid is Autistic or Asbergers(sp) when you start to interact w/ the child.

I think parents that don't like putting sunscreen on their kids are parasites. Are you frickin kidding me?! Sure, turn your kid loose and let them fry, as long as it's vaccinated, who cares?

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