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What is her left arm doing?
And did she have a chin implant?
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What is her left arm doing!!!?!? Lourdes looks like she wants to run away from this monstrosity that is her mom!! Anorexia and steroids gone MAD!

Your face!

Those cheek implants are scarrry...

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Hmmm, let's see, say something nice, um, well, she can serve as memaw thinspiration?

Madonna your mug is royally ripped and torn to all get out! Her Vadgeness looks like the product of a crack addict and an anorexic on steriods. Blimey, Lourdes sheesh...the unibrow is fightening...but I guess it should be left alone as waxing and or shaving will simply make it grow in thicker.

Submitted by Migraineuse on July 27, 2008 - 12:00pm.

Just for the record...

I fucking love you, Mig (and Donald too). Have a wonderful day and if I brought too much of my own personal shit to the table on this GOSSIP thread I apologize (but, it did feel good to air out). I just broke off [forever] a relationship with my mother that I've finally realized is beyond repair and my heart is a still a little heavy about it. I honestly like you (even when you're bitchy, hell, I'm a total bitch most of the time too so I can hardly talk).

You all make me "LOL" so much and I truly appreciate all of you even when the subject veers off into the 'deep' end.

Okay, now I really AM off to Costco! lol

Hugs,

Me

I'm old enough to remember when Vadge picked that dude Leon as the sperm donor - for his "looks". She obviously wanted, and got, a daughter with one eyebrow and a moustache.

I can't wait to see Lordy in a bikini.

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stack the fridge & stoke the bong
we're staying home tonite
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ekc-4V0MXv8

I'm all for keeping it real but Lourdes' facial hair is about to take over Tokyo.

G'day Sandbitch!

Excuse me one moment...

@ Migrainneuse:

I know you're a bitch and I forgive you.

Better?

♥ ThreadKilla! / Lean Like a Chola / She's a Lady.
Miss American Dream.

G'Day Bootiful Bitches...

Submitted by angel_i on July 27, 2008 - 3:33pm.

@Migrainneuse:

That's great. That's the exact kind of thinking that turned (and turns) my mom into a monster. Thanks a lot.

And I would appreciate it if you back off of calling my personal values: fake new-agey self-righteous bullshit.

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No. But thanks for asking.

You don't have the power to control what other people say, even if you don't like it. If you're too sensitive to deal with disagreement, perhaps you should be posting somewhere safer than a blog like this. There are forums for abuse survivors and whatnot that only allow "supportive" posts. Try one of them.

Imply that I'm an evil monster all you like. I just find it funny that a person who preaches forgiveness doesn't seem to practice what she preaches. Way to prove I'm wrong about your self-righteous New Agey bullshit!

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"When your balls are free, you will find inner peace." - Utilikilts

PS. I also took up my point with you, personally, if you'd like to address that instead.

♥ ThreadKilla! / Lean Like a Chola / She's a Lady.
Miss American Dream.

@ Migrainneuse:
I never said you hated me. I never even thought it.

♥ ThreadKilla! / Lean Like a Chola / She's a Lady.
Miss American Dream.

Submitted by angel_i on July 27, 2008 - 3:48pm.

It's true - what she said makes some sense. I just get frustrated because the woman can never make a point without shooting someone else down in the process.

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Spoken by the person who thinks that anyone who dares to disagree with her hates her - unless that disagreement is sugar-coated to spare her sensitive ego.

As interesting as these posts about emotional problems are - and I have nothing against them - I don't think it is reasonable for you to expect everyone to tailor their responses to what YOU want to hear. This is not a support group, it's a no-holds-barred celebrity-bashing blog.

I don't mind giving support to some people, but I do mind when they seem to expect it all the time - and whine and cry when it's not forthcoming. I don't sugarcoat my opinions because we don't live in a sugar-coated world. Bitching around to other people and trying to turn them against me, a little trick you pull constantly, just makes you look immature. Fight your own battles in cyberspace. That in itself is a good index of emotional maturity.

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"When your balls are free, you will find inner peace." - Utilikilts

This is what happens when you work out like a mad woman but never eat any fat. Its fuckin scary, I see ladies like this at my gym all the time they look like death in the flesh. This woman needs to lighten up, she is slowly digging her own grave by trying to be 25 forever. Its very unhealthy mentally and physically, she needs to start enjoying her life and her children instead of worrying about 'Madonna' all the time. Now that I am older and I have seen the light in many ways, Madonna is just all shades of pathetic to me these days. Anyone who has to fabricate their life for creed is lame and offensive to me. You earn you battle scars you dont invent them.

"I think you know that your more then just some fucked up piece of ass."
George Fuckin Michael.

@ angel-i and .,

Thanks for the kind words. Hugs and kisses to you both.

@ .
Wonderful to hear that you have not repeated the 'spanking' pattern. I don't have kids but I do have younger cousins. I use to babysit them ALOT when they were young. I made it a rule NEVER to hit them and I always told them how much I loved them.

You mention that my spirit wasn't (isn't) broken. Actually my Mum did break my spirit to the point where I hated myself. It has taken me YEARS to get to the point where I even like myself. And it is a work in progress lol.

It's cliche but I did try to put myself into my Mum's shoes when I found out about her abuse. I counted my blessings that I wasn't sexually abused like she had been. It made me realise that SHE was also a wounded soul. It breaks my heart to hear about the things she had to go through. And it also shines the light onto why she was such a crappy parent.

I am still healing, still reading lots of self help books, etc. But I've realised that my Mum can't/won't take my pain away. It is up to me to get the help (counselling) I need in order to heal. My Mum is too damaged to help me so I have stopped trying to seek her help. I am trying to accept her - faults and all. It isn't easy! But as I said before I actually do love her, despite everything.

Submitted by starsign on July 27, 2008 - 11:05am.

((Supportive hug))

Hon, I was once like you in the sense that I pitied my mother and honestly tried to forgive her and keep her in my life (from a safe distance) and now as I'm reaching middle age I realize her brand of toxic bullshit is just NOT WORTH IT. I too was physically and sexually abused but I did not pass that shit down to my daughter and I don't care how fucking abused you are you have no right to spread that shit just because you once were a victim. Was I a perfect mother? NO. Nobody is. -But, I worked very hard to be sure my daughter NEVER had to endure what I did. I used everything my mother did to me as a textbook example of what NOT TO DO. I'm happy to report that actually worked. lol

I sure do understand about you building your self-esteem up and learning to stand strong. The hardest thing for me was letting ANYONE see me without make-up. My mother would tell me I was ugly and to "put on my face" and I became OCD about anyone seeing me without make-up. Now I go out on PURPOSE with a naked face to help heal that part of my soul and it really has helped. I realized [now] that I'm not ugly without cosmetics and that I look perfectly fine. In fact, people are often much nicer to me now because I don't have my "fake face" on which can be a little intimidating really.

Anyway, sorry for my long-winded reply. I hope you have a wonderful day. I'm going with my hubby to Costco today and stock up on TP and condiments (lmao)!

Submitted by angel_i on July 27, 2008 - 7:24am.
Lonely days, lonely nights
Where would I be without my woman?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UqXxQy7iY9Y

hahahaha. Great video! You could also put it to "Stayin' Alive."

More coffee?

Submitted by Imnotme on July 27, 2008 - 10:38am.

Sorry, I'm out of water.

-How bout Vodka?

Submitted by Imnotme on July 27, 2008 - 10:38am.

Submitted by angel_i on July 27, 2008 - 10:24am.
Where's my coffee!?!

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Sorry, I'm out of water.
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Dayum! The States is harder up than I thought. I guess it's ok we're gonna let you bottle our toxic lake then:)

♥ ThreadKilla! / Lean Like a Chola / She's a Lady.
Miss American Dream.

Submitted by angel_i on July 27, 2008 - 10:24am.
Where's my coffee!?!

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Sorry, I'm out of water.

Submitted by starsign on July 27, 2008 - 10:21am.

Aww. I hear ya, kiddo. I think the memories and trauma don't just slip away (not that I don't wish to hell that they would) but what doesn't kill you makes you stronger and obviously your spirit wasn't broken. I consider myself one of the "walking wounded" because I too still struggle to come to grips with a woman who divorced my father before I was born and who hated me with a passion because all she saw in me was the man she hated and so I was cursed from the getgo. No matter how loving or how hard I tried to please my mother, she already had her mind set that I was a demon.

I will say a prayer for you today because I sure do know where you're coming from and the hurt but we ALL can break the cycle of abuse. I did it (and it took all my might and willpower, believe me). My mother and even in-laws wanted me to 'spank' my daughter and I stubbornly refused and I wouldn't let my husband lay a hand on her either (in an agressive manner). My daughter is the sweetest, most intelligent person now and my hard work and diligence definitely paid off. I love her soooooooo freaking much. :)

@starsign...

Hugs and Kisses to you too.

I think we'll find that all our moms had some fucked up backgrounds. I know a big issue for my mom is that it was REALLY not cool to let anyone know you had any kind of emotional problems. You didn't want the neighbours calling you a crazy, after-all.

As fucked up as it may sound - the reality craze is part of what we can be grateful for. It started back with who? Phil Donahue, then Oprah and so on...but we started to crack these things open and make it ok to talk about it. Of course, a band of pre-schoolers took it over and turned it all into a three-ring circus but what are you gonna do? We live in the land of loonies;P

ONT: If Madonna is a bitch to her kids I hope she's listening.

♥ ThreadKilla! / Lean Like a Chola / She's a Lady.
Miss American Dream.

To those who grew up with difficult (that's putting it nicely lol) Mothers I hear ya! My Mother abused me physically, mentally, emotionally and verbally when I was a child/teenager. She was a very damaged and angry woman and I was the easiest target for her rage. I am in my late 30's and I am STILL dealing with the memories of it to this day.

I have TRIED to talk to her about it many times but she just denies that it ever happened. I guess it is just too painful for her to admit to it. I was also an only child so I copped it all.

One of the most heart breaking things to me is that SHE actually adopted me. She wanted a child so badly and eventually was lucky enough to get one. Then she abused that child - me. Doesn't really make sense lol.

My Father was distant emotionally so I never really had an ally in him. He just turned a blind eye to the whole thing.

Anyway...I could go on and on. I will say that despite it all I actually DO love my mum. Strange huh. Part of loving her has stemmed from me learning about HER atrocious background. I found out that she was molested and abused when she was a young child. And as a result she is a very dysfunctional person.

In a way I have forgiven her in order to save my own sanity. We still have our disagreements but we are closer now than we have ever been. At times it is difficult but because I love her I want to have a relationship with her.

Best of luck to you all.

Submitted by Sheeps on July 27, 2008 - 10:16am.

Angel: Or this poetry from the Bee Gees:

Lonely days, lonely nights
Where would I be without my woman?
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Whoa nelly - that's a seriously sad song!
Boohoohoohoo...
Where's my coffee!?!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UqXxQy7iY9Y

PS. I love the Olden Days:)

♥ ThreadKilla! / Lean Like a Chola / She's a Lady.
Miss American Dream.

Angel: Or this poetry from the Bee Gees:

Lonely days, lonely nights
Where would I be without my woman?

Hugs and kisses right back atcha, babe;x

♥ ThreadKilla! / Lean Like a Chola / She's a Lady.
Miss American Dream.

Submitted by Imnotme on July 27, 2008 - 10:08am.

I'll make some General Foods International Coffees so you can celebrate the moments of your life. :)

rotfl! Yummy. That actually sounds really good about now. :))

Submitted by Imnotme on July 27, 2008 - 10:08am.

I'll make some General Foods International Coffees so you can celebrate the moments of your life. :)
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Y thank u!
And excellent timing, my good friend.
Now I don't have to get up!

♥ ThreadKilla! / Lean Like a Chola / She's a Lady.
Miss American Dream.

Angel, Aww. (((Virtual HUG)))

"Ah, Loneliness.

Who would I be

Without you?"

It doesn't work for me anymore - so you have it for a while. Hopefully, you'll be able to pass it on sooner than later:)
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Thank you, sweetheart. That poem is rather fitting for me and plaintively poignant all at once. Hopefully I won't have to borrow it for too long. *biggggggg cyber smooch* :)

It is so great to see people in emotionally healthy places with positive attitudes.

I wish you both inner peace. That's far more precious than anything tangible.

I'll make some General Foods International Coffees so you can celebrate the moments of your life. :)

@Dot
I have all of those days sometimes rolled up into one shiteous day from hell. lol -Other days? I'm happy just to be alive and healthy and walking on two limbs. I see people suffering from poverty, mental and emotional disabilities and that reminds me that I've got it pretty damned good despite the hurts and hiccups that have happened in my adult life. I feel fortunate and blessed that my life is not on a tether any longer and weeding out the jerks in my life might make me a tad lonely sometimes but much healthier. :)
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I heart you, too, Dot. For many reasons but at this moment it's because as I was thinking about this I thought: "Who cares? The main thing is that she (Dot) knows it's not her fault and that her future CAN be filled with joy even if her past isn't - obviously she knows that, so she's on a good path." People that can pull themselves out of the mire are my favourite people, regardless of how they do it:)

This used to be my favourite bus poem:

Ah, Loneliness.

Who would I be

Without you?

It doesn't work for me anymore - so you have it for a while. Hopefully, you'll be able to pass it on sooner than later:)

♥ ThreadKilla! / Lean Like a Chola / She's a Lady.
Miss American Dream.

Angel, you rock, woman! I heart you.

"That's PART of the reason I think forgiveness is important. And it's complicated because every day is not forgiveness day. Some days are anger days, sadness days, coping days and fuck-it-all-to-hell days."

AMEN! I have all of those days sometimes rolled up into one shiteous day from hell. lol -Other days? I'm happy just to be alive and healthy and walking on two limbs. I see people suffering from poverty, mental and emotional disabilities and that reminds me that I've got it pretty damned good despite the hurts and hiccups that have happened in my adult life. I feel fortunate and blessed that my life is not on a tether any longer and weeding out the jerks in my life might make me a tad lonely sometimes but much healthier. :)

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Submitted by angel_i on July 27, 2008 - 9:33am.
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I don't really want to go on. I get uncomfotable because people often have a hard time understanding these things that I say when I talk like this. It's not new. They turn it into something stupid and there's no way to go over it without experiences. Words are not enough. It's old information but we continue to ignore it.

It's my opinion that to really let go, one must forgive. The lack of forgiveness just causes anger and hostility to build up inside oneself and worse: causes people to not take responsibility for their own actions. It's not my fault- my mom was a bitch. I'm not saying you'd do that necessarily but you might. I know that in my teen years that's what it was ALL about.

That's PART of the reason I think forgiveness is important. And it's complicated because every day is not forgiveness day. Some days are anger days, sadness days, coping days and fuck-it-all-to-hell days.

It's true - what she said makes some sense. I just get frustrated because the woman can never make a point without shooting someone else down in the process.

♥ ThreadKilla! / Lean Like a Chola / She's a Lady.
Miss American Dream.

Submitted by angel_i on July 27, 2008 - 9:33am.

Angel, I think all of you had some fantastic points and different and very helpful perspectives. I do believe forgiveness is definitely for yourself so that you can move on and not mull shit around in your head and torture yourself eternally but, that being said, some people definitely don't deserve one iota of forgiveness but you let them go and let karma do its thing and release them from your life so you can boogie with life and ease on down the road.

@Migrainneuse:

That's great. That's the exact kind of thinking that turned (and turns) my mom into a monster. Thanks a lot.

And I would appreciate it if you back off of calling my personal values: fake new-agey self-righteous bullshit.

♥ ThreadKilla! / Lean Like a Chola / She's a Lady.
Miss American Dream.

Submitted by Migraineuse on July 27, 2008 - 7:45am.

Mig, your post was beautiful. Thank you. I totally smiled and 'got' what you were saying. :)

I only worship at the church of dlisted on Sunday...if that makes me a heathen...well, at least I'm in good company!

Sorry for so many consecutive comments but I am mesmerized by these photos and not in a good way.
Madonna is beginning to transform herself into the Joan Rivers/ Madame the Puppet look!!!

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BTW, Guy Ritchie should be HAPPY that Madonna wants out. Who would want to fuck that mess?
NOT ME

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Ah Carumba!!! Between that scary skeletor face on Vadge and the mustache on her daughter Lourdes, this is one photo that deserves to be tossed in the garbage can.

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Going out on a limb here and saying this is a combination of cosmetic surgery and photoshopping. I am usually the last to call retourching on anything but those shadows under her cheekbones are just too straight and severe given the lighting, and also the shadow and shape on her left arm looks wrong for the lighting.

That said I think she's had some seriousl fat grafting to her face. You look pretty awful for a while and then it settles down, and if it's done right it actually looks pretty natural. It can take 3-4 months before you look normal. I don't know if those are cheek implants or just fat grafting but I hate the look of those stupid things on anybody and have no idea why people do it.

The problem is that the woman has zero body fat due to overexercising and god knows what else. One of the things that ages you most dramatically as a 50+ person is loss of bodyfat in your face, which she's just compounded by her exercise regime. It's also reflected in her arms and hands which look like those of a 75 year old.

Submitted by Jaxon on July 27, 2008 - 1:31am.

The only way to break this cycle is with forgiveness. I know, I know, who wants to forgive someone who messed their head up big time? But it's the only way to get free of the pain. This is done in your mind, NOT to them. I'm not saying that you have to say this to them, especially if you are staying away to protect yourself. But every time the pain of your past comes up you just do a little meditation in your mind saying "I forgive and this pain will disappear."

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Oh, please, not this "forgiveness" horseshit again. I swear, it's like some people are in a fucking religious cult the way they preach that this is the ONLY WAY to inner peace.

Dot, take it from me: You don't have to forgive anyone. Save your forgiveness for those who bother trying to earn it. All you have to do is let go of the idea that the abuser is ever going to acknowledge what they did, or change their ways. You can come to the realization that their behavior was due to their own personal issues and had nothing to do with you, and detach yourself emotionally without forcing yourself through all this fake New-Agey self-righteous "forgiveness" bullshit. You don't need to be Gandhi or Jesus Christ - just an adult who is able to recognize toxic situations and people, and seperate oneself from those things.

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"When your balls are free, you will find inner peace." - Utilikilts

I certainly wouldn't call lourdes beautiful at this point in her life, but I do think she's a cute girl going through an awkward phase. Angelina looked like that, and though I'm currently no fan of hers, I certainly think she was quite beautiful in her pre-Brad days!

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For once I actually do believe this emaciated look is do to stress, and not an eating disorder!

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*I used to Love Celebrities, now I just love to Hate them!*

It's so obvious.. the photos are photoshopped and they've given her Lindsay Lohan's face from the cheeks down. It is distorted because the two do not fit well. At least I hope that's the problem (photoshop). Otherwise, Madonna had some very unfortunate surgical procedures. I have a sucky bod and would love to have the drive and strength that Madonna has, but even so I must admit she's taken it to a whole other level. I wonder how her family feels about that.

She's so thin you can see the outline of the cheek implants.

She's so thin you can see the outline of her cheek implants, a few good meals and she's going to look great again.

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refund so necessary.

Is she still fucking that baseball player?

Why does anyone say Lourdes is pretty? She isn't. She's fug. Seriously. How much arselicking of Maddona's well-trodden anus does it require to keep talking about Lourdes as if she's some fantastic beauty when in reality she isn't. The girl is not a stunner. She does not posses any rare beauty. If anything she needs a new set of genes and a good shave.

I think Madonna likes the fact her daughter looks like an 80 year old grandma with a stashe and unibrow.

As for Madonna herself, she's always been fug so it doesn't surprise me she's getting fuggier with age.