And It Gets Even Sadder
Just when you thought this story couldn't get anymore tragic, it does. I'm warning you. This might completely ruin your Saturday night.
UPDATE: TMZ removed their original story and corrected it. Publicists for Travis Barker and DJ AM said their sources are telling lies. Chris' wife was not about to go into labor at the time of the crash. That was also not the reason why they traveled on the Learjet. She's not even pregnant.
TMZ reports that Travis Barker and his friends weren't originally supposed to be on that Learjet last night. Earlier yesterday, Travis' assistant, Chris Baker, found out his wife was about to go into labor. Travis promised Chris that he would do whatever he could to get him home as quickly as possible. They learned that the fastest way to get from South Carolina to Van Nuys was to travel by private jet.
Travis doesn't usually fly by private plane, but did it so that Chris could be with his wife.
We all know what happened next. Four people including Chris were killed in the crash after midnight. Chris' wife went into labor this morning. They also have another child together.
Travis and DJ AM are currently being treated at a burn center in Augusta, GA. People reports that Shanna Moakler has flown from Los Angeles to be with Travis. Her mother said they haven't told Travi's kids yet until they know more. Travis reportedly suffered burns from the waist down.
One of DJ AM's friends told E! News that his face is very burned. The friend said, "More than 50 percent of his body is burned and the worst is on his face." He has been put in a doctor-induced coma so he can undergo skin grafts.
There is a whole lot of sadness on this one post. On that note, I think this is our cue to crawl into bed with a big bottle of anything alocholic.
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At one point, I was so empathetic, I would become physically ill and almost 'take on' the pain of other people. Logically, I realize that doesn't help the other person. It took a really long time to get where I am now. I had to learn to seperate myself and not become so emotionally invested. It was even more intense if it was a family member or friend. I am extremely sensitive if it involves a child. I don't know why I'm that way but it is NOT a good thing. It's emotionally draining.
One of the first decisions I made was to stop watching the news and distance myself sometimes, which may seem cold but for my own well-being, and those close to me, I don't have a choice. It has only been recently that I read the news on a fairly regular basis.
You all probably think I'm crazy. Maybe that is crazy, I don't know. Point is, empathy should have it's limits.
@Vanyvrgs:
Everything surrounding that poor guy's death is just one tragedy after another. I don't have kids of my own but I can't imagine what Chris' parents are going through. Christ, when does it end? Haven't these people been through enough. Damn.
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@speakit and Frito...
yeah, I do not even know what to say myself. I do hope that E! was wrong but the baker family must be going insane. I know it is no confort today, but at least they have to take confort on the fact that he has left two kids on this world for them to dote on. Regardless this kid's life would always be tied to his dad's death and no matter how much the mom and grandparents say so, there will always be some quilt on this now newborn, that his dad died trying to get to him or her. Sadness....
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Submitted by fuckingclassy on September 21, 2008 - 2:33am.
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Wow, what a massive cunt you are.
That ASPCA commercial with Sarah McLachlan is always a tear jerker for me. Last week during Monday Night Football, they showed that shit twice in a row.
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TITS: You're bad, but as I recall, that's why you caught my eye!
On another note, this sounds so odd, but even with the disparaging opinions, it feels very comforting to be able to come here & vent/share/grieve.
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Why couldn't Paris Hilton have been on that plane??!?!?
Submitted by kate773 on September 20, 2008 - 8:47pm.
okaaay I've cried at weddings I'll admit. But for all the wrong reasons. ;)
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Submitted by kate773 on September 20, 2008 - 10:47pm.
God love you! Can you imagine you & me, some eggnog, a tv, & Christmas? Every Kleenex stockholder would make a freaking fortune!
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speakit: exactly why I have this email address. I look forward to hearing from you. I keep thinking it would be so cool if we lived in the same town!
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Submitted by vanyvrgs on September 20, 2008 - 11:41pm.
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God, I don't know what to say.
DQ - I cry alot too. Walmart commericals (the one with the special needs kids), weddings, anything with animals or kids getting hurt or dying.
Submitted by TITS on September 20, 2008 - 10:42pm.
I really don't think it's about anything other than how people feel what they feel. My mother says I "make a meal of crying." Could be true. I feel what I feel, & I feel it to the Nth degree. I also have no regrets & no ulcers. I'm unashamedly a dork (but not a dorke) when it comes to my emotions. If you take me on, they come too.
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Well I haven't cried nor do I feel like getting drunk over it. I think it's awful for anyone, famous or not. I do feel especially bad for the family that lost 2 sons in 2 weeks. A man in our twp was killed in a fiery car accident. That was more sad to me since he was a dad and part of our town. So there you go. My heart goes out to those who perished and their families, all of them including the pilot and copilot.
dramaqueen: I'll email you tomorrow. I can't post my email address here because it's my real name, LOL It would be cool. :)
Wow, I just read my last long post and saw several gramatical errors. I hate that.
Submitted by vanyvrgs on September 20, 2008 - 9:41pm.
OH my God! Even worse news from E! -- Mr. Baker the father to be who perished had his brother killed in a car accident 2 weeks ago. His parents must be going crazy. 2 kids in 2 weeks, a new baby.....
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And the hits keep comin' and comin'. Holy fuck.
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Submitted by dramaqueen365247 on September 20, 2008 - 8:34pm.
TITS: Not taking it as snarky at all. Yes, I do cry a lot. Commercials at Christmas, weddings, births, "I love you's," -- I'm a faucet.
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aaaah okay thanks for the reply - I gotcha. I've met your type before *wink*.
Movies too I bet eh? Fuck. Now that I think of it some movies have made me cry too. Goddamned Lassie. But never a news story.
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OH my God! Even worse news from E! -- Mr. Baker the father to be who perished had his brother killed in a car accident 2 weeks ago. His parents must be going crazy. 2 kids in 2 weeks, a new baby..... ____________________________________________
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Submitted by kate773 on September 20, 2008 - 9:31pm.
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well said
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Bedtime for me Hope ebody has sweet dreams!!Nite
Submitted by TITS on September 20, 2008 - 11:56pm
Depends on the tragedy, for me. I still cry over 9/11. I haven't cried over this, even though its awful.
I know people are questioning some on here like, "Why are you crying over someone you've never met and don't know." Well, it's called empathy and sometimes just being overwhelmed by the human condition. The same reason I cried when I read certain historical accounts of warfare. I didn't know them either. I'm not crying but hearing about these kinds of tragedies make me sad.
Just hoping they both heal well and their families are strong.
Dramaqueen: we all rock, hon! Let's not talk about it. Let's have lunch. Life's short. I don't have a myspace account, so how should we contact each other?
Tits, that's called 'empathy'. One puts themselves mentally and emotionally in someone else's shoes, imagines all aspects and how they would feel. Naturally, it can bring about an emotional reaction. I suppose some are just more empathetic than others.
wow terrible horrible injuries. prayers to all. I hate small planes.
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Submitted by TITS on September 20, 2008 - 11:28pm.
Them's fightin words.
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TITS: Not taking it as snarky at all. Yes, I do cry a lot. Commercials at Christmas, weddings, births, "I love you's," -- I'm a faucet. I'd blame part of it on being an actress & taking on emotions & feelings as part of the job. The other part is what I said before. I LOVED being an actress more than any occupation on this earth. Eventually, I realized it wouldn't pay the bills, & I had to move on if I wanted what I considered a "real" life.
A "real" life to me is being a Mommy. Wanted it since I was 5. Told repeatedly I'd never have it. Got pregnant at the ripe old age of 38, & it was tough. But it was my dream. Above all else. When my son was born, it was truly the most magical moment of my life. I'd have loved to have more, but medical problems made that impossible. I've always known I had the chops to be an actress. I'd always wanted, more than anything in this world, to be a mom. So, maybe I'm even projecting too much onto these people I don't know. But, yes, I am crying, because, with the road I took, I can't imagine what that woman is feeling.
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fuck.
It's all been said before in this thread already.
Burns are terrifyingly painful
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Submitted by luvmehateme on September 20, 2008 - 11:43pm
You're not wrong, it DID happen on his watch. But again, I don't believe God chooses certain things to happen to certain people. He can be "All knowing" without picking and choosing who to fuck over. For the record, I don't believe God is responsible for the good stuff either.
God is different for everyone. For some, He rules and is responsible for everything that happens. That doesn't ring true for me, for the reasons I stated earlier. For me, I take comfort in knowing that there is something greater than me and greater than everything out there and I have leaned on my faith in hard times. But I make my own way in life. When something good or bad happens to me, its not because someone higher entity choose to bless me or screw me over.
I totally understand why someone would question or blame God or whoever when something like this happens. Like I said earlier, when something is hard to comprehend, its only natural to try and make sense of it. Someone HAS to be at fault. And when no logical explanation is immediately forthcoming, you turn to the illogical. Its just that, for me, its an exercise in futility. Even if it WAS God, what could I do about it? Nothing. So then what? What will ultimately happen here is that we will discover that someone fucked up when they were doing maintenance on this plane. And that will be the cause of this trajedy.
Again, this is just my opinion. I hope I'm not offending anyone, I just wanted to offer my two cents.
TV - I recall smirking at your post, but wasn't moved to LOL you.
besides, mine was funnier.
so there.
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Submitted by dramaqueen365247 on September 20, 2008 - 8:19pm.
DQ at the risk of being flamed into obscurity, you were crying over the death of people you've never even met let alone had a friendship with? Complete and utter strangers? Real tears, rolling down your cheeks?
Wow. I just don't get that. Really. Do you just cry easily - is that why? I'm trying to understand as a couple of posters here have stated they've been crying over this story, and it BAFFLES me.
I feel bad for their situation, but that's about it. I'm a very caring person, and not a cold heartless lump of coal, but I have to have SOME sort of relationship with a person before I start crying over their bad luck/fate.
Do you often cry over these types of stories? How about 9/11? Truly just curious, not snarky.
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Submitted by TITS on September 20, 2008 - 11:19pm.
I suggested that her cartwheel pics were taken during her bronze medal performance at the Special Olympics, no response either. Damn Phoebe Phans!
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Viva Mexico, that is such a great point. Who knows what pulls the strings for us, or if there is a bigger plan but maybe Chris's untimely death saved something, someone, or prevented him from suffering later on. And though it appears to be tragic timing, maybe his widow is surrounded by loved ones, because of the new baby, that wouldn't be readily available. Maybe that new baby will ease her grief.
Or maybe I'm a hopeless optimist trying desperately to find a positive.
Submitted by luvmehateme on September 20, 2008 - 9:13pm.
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There have been a lot of things that I have heard of (like the Holocaust for instance, God really fucked that one up didn't he?) that have made me question him if he truly exists. Then I try to remember that despite how unfair it all is, sometimes shit happens. I'm not one of those people that thinks that everything happens for a reason because there is no reason for things like this to happen. There's no good reason for children to be abused, there's no good reason for innocent people to be murdered and there's no good reason for a woman to get raped, but it happens anyway. I really resent those who say that everything happens for a reason.
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Viva - that was really sweet. thanks for that.
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Submitted by Team Valtrex on September 20, 2008 - 8:15pm.
AMEN!
Just no Phoebe Price!
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There's a PP post a few stories down. She's doing cartwheels. I had a very funny (i thought) observation, but no yucks. harrumph.
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speakit, we do need to have lunch. Because I'm a fucking mess right now, & I'm sure my husband thinks I'm crazy. I think you rock! I'm not ready for waterproof yet.
The birth of my son was my dream come true. It was a loooooooooooooong time coming, & I can't imagine how I'd have dealt with it if my husband was gone. It was such a joyful moment in my life! I know I would have gone on, for my child, but HOW, I can't say.
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yep, my parents were wrecks too, since we were arguing. This happened the day before my birthday and I of course wanted a party. HA got a cupcake but I couldn't eat it.
I fell apart when my kids got hurt and they were never seriously injured. The guilt of an accident is awful. But we forget that the word is Accident and it means not on purpose!!
this is one of those stories that really hammers home how precious and fragile life is, and how quickly our loved ones can be taken away from us. i hope the new mother can take comfort in her little baby, knowing that a part of her husband will always be with her....
Submitted by ImpertinentVixen on September 20, 2008 - 10:49pm.
Here, here. I mean, a decapitated child coming home from caroling?? COME ON?? God dropped the ball on that one!
As for
Submitted by kate773 on September 20, 2008 - 11:01pm.
I get what you are saying, but if he is the "all knowing and almighty", then I can't help but think (maybe wrongly) that this did happen on his watch. There is just some shit that is sooo sad and ridiculous, you have to wonder what the fuck was God thinking on this one?
As you said, no one questions God on the good. Well, I know people like my mom think that all things Good are due to God. Well you know what? He can take it in the gut for the bad shit, too.
Sorry if I sound angry, but this type of tragedy is un-fucking-necessary and I am not sure what people are supposed to "take from it". I don't know a lot of people that DIDN'T know that life was fragile before this.
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Submitted by TITS on September 20, 2008 - 11:12pm.
AMEN!
Just no Phoebe Price!
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Submitted by dramaqueen365247 on September 20, 2008 - 11:05pm.
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I finally pulled myself together, but on the upside, my new waterproof mascara held up beautifully. :)
We need a batshit britney post. Hell, even a political story!
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lol, I had pneumonia when I was five and the nurses would do that with me and another little girl in there. She got SO much more attention and random gifts, etc and my mom explained to me it was because her mom died (her stepdad slashed everyone in the family's throats and she was the only survivor.) God now I feel so selfish for being like that even though I was only five.
Poor DJ AM and Travis Barker. This is all pretty heartbreaking.
@Onthebrink:
There was this one pic that I saw of some guy's legs that was just terrifying. If that were me, I don't think I would want to live through that.
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Submitted by onthebrink on September 20, 2008 - 11:31pm
When my nephew was 1 1/2 my sister was having the kitchen redone, so all the appliances were in the dining room. My brother in law was having breakfast and made some toast, then unplugged it. Well, my nephew, being the inquisitive little bugger that he is, stuck his hands in the toaster before it had cooled down. My sister and brother in law saw him going for it, only just a second too late. He had second degree burns on the palms of his hands. Luckily he was young enough that he is now fully healed with no scars, but he spent 2 months with his hands completely wrapped, he looked like he had clubs. He was actually ok pretty soon after the accident, showing really no signs of pain, but my sister and brother in law were absolutely traumatized.
Mrs. K: On a weird note: I won a trivia game w/ my hubby based on a Doris D. song. I thought of your avvie. *thinking if I'm wrong & it's not DD, I sound like a totally moronic asshole*
On topic: I'm sitting here crying. For the new mother/widow. For the father who'll never get to hold his son. For the parents, spouses, siblings, & friends. &, of course, for the victims. I can't remember the time I've heard something so awful.
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yep it ain't pretty