Palin & Fey: Together At Last (Sort Of, Kind Of)

Provolone cheese STINKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I should have said that my last comment was an answer to Provolone's previous post, comment C.

I think he or she also meant to use the word ELUDE not allude. But then since he or she is a fan of Dubya's I suppose propre use of the English language ELUDES him (or her)

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I'm taking over!

Submitted by Sheeps on October 19, 2008 - 9:52pm.

Submitted by TITS on October 19, 2008 - 9:42pm.
Don't you mean December 13th?

What is Dec. 13th? July 4th or something?
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Dec 13th 2000 when gore conceded to ole what's his name. 'member?

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Submitted by Provolone on October 19, 2008 - 9:43pm.

Also, you can have an opinion about law degrees when you get one. Until then, rely on the judgment of those who have them, that it involves a bit more than "bullshitting" and a command of the English language (which I got with a B.A. in English, much like Palin herself.) Sorry if I'm a bit touchy on the subject, I'm just tired of hearing the same old bit about lawyers again and again. You can't lump everyone of ANY profession into one category.

And I would rather have a lawyer who graduated from one of the best law schools in this country RUNNING this country than someone who barely graduated from college, a category which includes both McCain AND Palin. Why are people so obsessed with the idea of the "liberal elite" and don't consider the fact that the "average Joe" is completely ill-equipped to run this country? I don't care what party you are, I just want you to be somewhat informed and educated. Bush I and II and Reagan certainly weren't. Other Republican presidents have been.

Bam Bam

I agree a whole lot of it should be put on the Bush Administration. He sux at life!

But I don't think the housing crisis has anything to do with 'voodoo economics'. Just living beyond your means.

My bad, thought his Yale one was in law.

John McCain would be the oldest man ever to be elected to the Presidency. John McCain has had a very serious form of cancer which could very easily re-occur. John McCain has refused to make his medical records public.

If John McCain were elected and dies during the next 4 years, Sarah Palin would be President. That is why so many people are scared shitless, get it yet???

Sarah Palin is no more qualified to be president than I am and I, at least, have had a passport for more than 20 years and traveled outside of the US many times. I guess in Republican terms means that I am MORE qualified on foreign policy that she is!
(even if Russia is not next to my state!)

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I'm taking over!

Submitted by Provolone on October 19, 2008 - 9:43pm.

Bush doesn't have an Ivy law degree. He has an M.B.A. from Harvard Business School, which his father bought his way into. Get your facts straight before you start spreading rumors! (Does that sound familiar?) That information is a quick Google away from anyone who wants to check his or her facts before posting, as I often do. Others are happy to spread whatever lies pop into their heads.

Submitted by TITS on October 19, 2008 - 9:42pm.
Don't you mean December 13th?

What is Dec. 13th? July 4th or something?

Submitted by Provolone on October 19, 2008 - 8:44pm.

Bush and Clinton pushed home ownership for low income people. THEY forced banks to give these people loans, and guess what they couldn't pay it back. That's what happens when government legislates the free market. Thank that pandering for the current economic crisis.
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Um, the policies you allude to here were put in place during the Reagan administration. Bush himself coined the term "voodoo economics" in reference to policies like this one and others.

Think about that, Bush said that about his boss' policies and with good reason. It opened up new markets for lenders to go buck wild without restraint and we have what we have here now, a big effin mess that'll take years to recover from.

And I would bet you good money the majority of those defaulted loans are less than eight years old. Now who was in the White House during those years again??

Bambam - go over to the blow job comments.

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A. He ran against NO ONE for that senate seat. Keyes 2 months before the vote doesn't count.

B. He has nothing to show for those 4 years.

C. He's running vs. MCCAIN!!! Palin wouldn't BE president, why does this fact always allude democrats during their arguments? And if McCain did croak it would be a Dem senate n house which would equal a lame duck presidency.

D. Being a senator doesn't mean you run a state. Or anything for that matter. It means you cast a single vote out of 100.

E. Bush has an Ivy league Law degree. Guess what? I want 'CHANGE' so i'm voting for the people WITHOUT a Law degree. And law degree's in my opinion, just mean you have an excellent command of the English language....and could lie/bullshit well.

Submitted by Sheeps on October 19, 2008 - 9:32pm.

I can't wait for Nov. 5th.
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Don't you mean December 13th?
:P

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TITS, that's a cool concept. I wish it were that way here. Of course, it would only take a decade or less for the politicians to screw that up as well here. It's only taken America 200 years to corrupt itself, rather than the thousand of years it took for the Roman Empire to self desruct. Then again, we're nothing if not inventive.

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"Nice to meetcha' gosh darnit. I'm Jane Winebox, and this is my hubby, Joe Sixpack."

@BamBam..Eh..erm...The proper response when a woman asks you how they're hangin'(just for future studies, of course ::Huge shit eating grin:::), is... High and tight, babe. Just like you!

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"Nice to meetcha' gosh darnit. I'm Jane Winebox, and this is my hubby, Joe Sixpack."

On another note I was falling in and out of sleep when that singer Adele's gorgeous voice brought me to full consciousness. I guessed she was british by her sound and by the guys in the band.

God, why can't our country produce singers like that instead of the likes of Ms. Cheeto or Beyonce? Hell, even Christina goes too far with the histrionics sometimes. Just write a good song and sing it fer chrissakes.

I googled her and found out she's a product of the british version american idol, ole Simon Cowell's got some involvement.

Submitted by dannygrl on October 19, 2008 - 9:32pm.

But it's bad when a woman dare try to run office AND be a leader, LOL.

-- So I take it you were a Hillary Clinton supporter before Obama got the nomination?

Submitted by Provolone on October 19, 2008 - 9:27pm.

Tell me how two years as GOVERNOR of a state of 600,000, with a B.A. (not Ph.D., not J.D., not M.D., but B.A.) makes one more qualified than four years as a SENATOR of a state of 12,000,000, with a J.D. from Harvard (and who didn't attend that school because one or another of his parents had). You can't!

I can't wait for Nov. 5th.

aquarius said "Shitting out five kids, taking five years to complete your B.A. at SIX different colleges, and killing some moose"

Spoken like a true hateful scumbag (aka liberal). Too bad your mother didn't take her "right" to abort her "shit" when she was getting ready to shit YOU out, huh?

And your precious Obama had his wife "shit" out 2 lumps of crap, don't forget. But it's bad when a woman dare try to run office AND be a leader, LOL. Gotta love those libs that want EVERYONE in victim mode....don't you dare think you can dream big and reach your goals! Those libs will pull you down everytime.

Yep, Palin hunts in her spare time... unlike rocking to the Bee Gees and owning a coin collection, which I imagine Obama does in his spare time. He's got the personality of a wet paper bag. But then again, all the Democraps I've ever met had the same type of persona.

Ironic?

Nitwitty - in the NorthWest Territories every political candidate runs as an independant. There are no political parties. They also rule by consensus.

Neat eh?

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Submitted by Provolone on October 19, 2008 - 9:08pm.
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Jesse Jackson?? Hahaha, I love it. You people never stop do you?? Saying JJ speaks for all blacks is like saying David Duke speaks for all whites.

Jesse and his generation have outlived their usefulness as leaders. Only certain groups still hold Mr. Jackson in such high esteem. Their point of reference still remains the time of the Civil Rights era and the 10 or 12 years following King's assassination. There's a new generation out there that's come of age but I guess Jesse is still a good hot button for the conservatives to push.

@Nitwitty,

Hey babe, doin good and they're still hangin low.

Submitted by aquarius on October 19, 2008 - 9:17pm.
Submitted by Provolone on October 19, 2008 - 9:08pm.

Well, ironically, you're talking to a lawyer. Think what you like, but we learn a lot more than "bullshitting" in law school. At the very least, I have a much better idea of how this country runs than Sarah Palin does. And I can name a few Supreme Court cases other than Roe v. Wade (unlike Palin).

But I'm certainly not as qualified as Obama. Look at it however you may, but being the editor of the Harvard Law Review (particularly when you're not a 'legacy' student) is quite an accomplishment. Shitting out five kids, taking five years to complete your B.A. at SIX different colleges, and killing some moose is not.
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I don't know man, it took a lot for me to bring a moose down. Yeah, first of all, it wasn't my natural humting ground at all. Secound of all, those fuckers are big as fuck, so here's what I did...I tackled the mother fucker at his legs, then immediately went for the jugular...I dragged that mofo into some woods, which was no easy task, cuz that fucker weighs more than I do. Anyway, I WOULD HAVE had a nice feast, except for all those Russians looking on...I mean, really...sooo intrustive, but I got an education in foreign policey while I dined....

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Sorry, Roger, you are tiger now...

I think her time as governor make her so, i'll admit not qualified but more so then Barack. Add that with time as VP (which lets remember what shes running for) would make her qualified eventually. Glad to see "bullshitting" was part of the curriculum : )

Submitted by Provolone on October 19, 2008 - 9:08pm.

Well, ironically, you're talking to a lawyer. Think what you like, but we learn a lot more than "bullshitting" in law school. At the very least, I have a much better idea of how this country runs than Sarah Palin does. And I can name a few Supreme Court cases other than Roe v. Wade (unlike Palin).

But I'm certainly not as qualified as Obama. Look at it however you may, but being the editor of the Harvard Law Review (particularly when you're not a 'legacy' student) is quite an accomplishment. Shitting out five kids, taking five years to complete your B.A. at SIX different colleges, and killing some moose is not.

Bam Bam- I don't think its bad at all. You're right every other race does it, so why not blacks. It sure beats having Jesse Jackson as your go to leader!

And for aquarious the only qualification Obama has that Palin doesn't is a Law degree from Harvard. Not a mathematics one, or a science one, or an economic one. Never invented anything, never ran a business or dealt with a payroll. Nope he has a Law degree, which is the science of BULLSHITTING! Vote for who you want to, just spare everyone the "I'm high brow because I'm voting for Barack" schtick. Because he really isn't some extraordinary person. He delivers speeches well, which gives people 'hope' or whatever that's his claim to fame.

Hey, BamBam! How they hangin' doll? IMO, a politician is a politician, doesn't matter what party or race..They've greased so many palms and made so many side deals by the time they run for election that it doesn't matter who votes them in. In the end, they'll do what the folks that gave them the money want them to do once they're in office.
I believe if everyone registered "independent" and made the candidates tell them what they were going to do for them, then either the heads of all the spoon-fed dems and repubs would explode because they'd actually have to ask themselves what was truly important to them -- today, rather than reaching back to hear what their parents/role models said was the gospel of politics when they were young and impressionable, or the candidates would actually have to work for your vote. They wouldn't be voted in based on preconceived notions of what a "party leader" will do.
WOW! Can't believe I just went "there" since I'm the first one to think: Why the hell are people talking politics on DL, don't they know Fox or CNN political forums are just down the hall and to the left or right? LOL

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"Nice to meetcha' gosh darnit. I'm Jane Winebox, and this is my hubby, Joe Sixpack."

Submitted by Provolone on October 19, 2008 - 8:29pm.
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You are right blacks are voting more accordance to the Democratic party than him being black. So saying blacks are voting just on race is silly. But I would think the turn out would be bigger because he is black. And they have been loyal Democrats....and look where its gotten them : /

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No doubt some are because of the symbolism it represents given our social history in this country. But as republicans are wont to do, it ignores similar situations in favor of advancing their argument.

Do you think Irish Americans voted for Kennedy purely based on his policies?? Or that Italian Americans regularly honor Justices Scalia and Alito purely based on their ideologies??

No. There's an element of cultural pride seeing one of your own achieve the highest positions of power and authority. Every group does it, it's human nature so why is it all of a sudden bad if some blacks do it?? Hmmmm......

Submitted by Provolone on October 19, 2008 - 8:47pm.
Submitted by radio siren on October 19, 2008 - 8:41pm.

and whether you think it is a choice or not doesn't mean you think less of gay people, in my opinion. They are consenting adults that are free to do what they want. In the spirit of this site, Tom Cruise is married to a woman but we all know hes fucked a guy or twelve. That's not him choosing to do that?

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Whether or not he marries women in order to hide his homosexuality does not negate it. It's his natural sexual inclination that he has no choice in, not whether he marries or not.

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"Paris is fucking lame. She's more offensive to me than anything. She's a total, raging, disgusting, rich, lazy party slut. I pray that my daughter will not turn out like her." - Dave Grohl

aquarius: I heart you too!

It's a stubborn type of fear. The party members who are so rabid are the ones who fear a black man in power or anyone who does not share their views.

Deb: Hi girl! I used to be an independent, but recently re-registered as a Democrat. The whole situation with Palin and her lack of qualifications is so unbelievable. It feels like those who support her actually find the idea of such an unpresidential figure in office appealing. Completely mind-boggling.

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"Paris is fucking lame. She's more offensive to me than anything. She's a total, raging, disgusting, rich, lazy party slut. I pray that my daughter will not turn out like her." - Dave Grohl

Submitted by radio siren on October 19, 2008 - 8:41pm.

and whether you think it is a choice or not doesn't mean you think less of gay people, in my opinion. They are consenting adults that are free to do what they want. In the spirit of this site, Tom Cruise is married to a woman but we all know hes fucked a guy or twelve. That's not him choosing to do that?

And a President doesn't have dictator like powers...as you seem to suggest. Go to your local community college and take a civics class or something.

Bush and Clinton pushed home ownership for low income people. THEY forced banks to give these people loans, and guess what they couldn't pay it back. That's what happens when government legislates the free market. Thank that pandering for the current economic crisis.

Submitted by Provolone on October 19, 2008 - 8:29pm.
Submitted by radio siren on October 19, 2008 - 8:21pm.

You are extrapolating her thinking that heteros and gays aren't equal because she thinks its a choice?? Well just recognize that's YOUR opinion. And for some I personally do think its a choice, or that a larger segment of the population are just horny bi's. How's that for trying?

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It's a poor effort, because being gay is NOT a choice. You cannot decide to become gay. That's not just my opinion, it's a fact.

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"Paris is fucking lame. She's more offensive to me than anything. She's a total, raging, disgusting, rich, lazy party slut. I pray that my daughter will not turn out like her." - Dave Grohl

6 Years of Republican rule. And lets face it..Bush is a Liberal for Jesus. His war record is more in line with Truman (D) and LBJ (D) then anyone Republican, wouldn't you say?

PS. I hate Bush too.

Submitted by Provolone on October 19, 2008 - 8:29pm.

And they have been loyal Democrats....and look where its gotten them : /

Uh, yeah, because the President has been a Republican for the last 12 of 20 years!

That's why I feel sorry for Obama, because 4 years is not nearly enough time to undo all the damage caused by the last 8 years of Republican rule. I'm sure whatever problems are left 4 years from now will be spun as entirely Obama's fault.

Submitted by radio siren on October 19, 2008 - 8:21pm.

You are extrapolating her thinking that heteros and gays aren't equal because she thinks its a choice?? Well just recognize that's YOUR opinion. And for some I personally do think its a choice, or that a larger segment of the population are just horny bi's. How's that for trying?

BAMBAM.

You are right blacks are voting more accordance to the Democratic party than him being black. So saying blacks are voting just on race is silly. But I would think the turn out would be bigger because he is black. And they have been loyal Democrats....and look where its gotten them : /

Submitted by radio siren on October 19, 2008 - 8:21pm.

I <3 you, radio siren :)

I get so tired of responding to Republican arguments! They never listen, they just come back with something else, someone gives a factual rebuttal, they come back with something else AGAIN... there's no convincing 'em.

"From all of Europe (soon to be Eurabia) to all of US citizens:

Please choose the right one! That of course being John McCain!"

WOAH hey now please don't talk for all of us. I beg America to vote Obama. And what the fuck is this 'Eurabia' shit?

I want to say sarcastically to SNL

THANKS FOR KILLING THE JOY.

Palin was HORRIBLE.

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Submitted by Provolone on October 19, 2008 - 8:03pm.
PS Hellacious....

On gay marriage in the debate they prefaced the question to Biden and Palin as "would you allow the rights gay couples already have in alaska for the rest of America". SO seems to me Alaska is AHEAD of America in that aspect. Some "HATEFUL" woman huh?? And Obama and McCain have the same stance on gay marriage. So fuck off with your feigned hatred of Palin, because you can't even do that right.

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Domestic partnership rights in Alaska were established before Palin became governer. She had nothing to do with it, and she's made it clear she personally doesn't place gays on an equal standing with heteros since she thinks being gay is a "choice." Try again.

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"Paris is fucking lame. She's more offensive to me than anything. She's a total, raging, disgusting, rich, lazy party slut. I pray that my daughter will not turn out like her." - Dave Grohl

Don't you just love idiotic people?? Where are these people living?? Have they been in this country for the last eight years?? I don't know who to be disgusted by more; these doofus hate mongers or the media that so far haven't taken off the gloves and started talking about just how bad this administration has been. And I love those who keep saying blacks are only voting for Obama because he's black. Know why?? The answer is so obvious it'll make you wanna smack somebody up side their head. Blacks have consistently voted Democratic for at least 70 years now if not a whole century. So now that the Democratic candidate is a black person our votes are for racist reasons?? So how mind numbingly stoopid is that comment??

Not to mention that if it were true then how come the GOP didn't pick a black person for VP?? They already think the public is stupid enough to vote for any woman just because she's a woman.

Cunts? Nice.

Wow. So people's tires got slashed whilst they were attending an Obama rally here in NC today. How charming.

All right, short final point, anyone -- no matter which party -- who can only make his or her point by insulting the other party usually doesn't have much of an argument. It just makes them look less intelligent.

Submitted by aquarius on October 19, 2008 - 8:11pm

ahhh thank you for submitting to me. And you have NOTHING better to do, lol.

Its just funny, if a Repub calls Obama a muslim liberals will tell them to get 'educated' or stop being 'ignorant'. Which is right because its based on a bullshit rumor. And guess what so is the rape kit rumor, so GO get 'educated' and STOP being 'ignorant' liberals! Stop spreading those rumors. Peace out cunts footballs on!

Submitted by Provolone on October 19, 2008 - 8:04pm.

I would argue your points, but frankly, I have better things to do than try to convince someone who already has her mind filled up with lies and Republican propaganda. You've been a member for 4 days and have contributed nothing but bile and random attacks on other members. You'll have to take out your hatefulness on someone else this evening.

Have fun!

Palin fiddles while Rome burns.
I think it's a disgrace that she couldn't be bothered to do any *real* press, but she is the one who actually called the producers of SNL & told them she wanted to appear.
Nice priorities.
I certainly have a sense of humor, but, honestly, this was nothing but PR for Palin. I don't think it was especially "brave" of her to appear...the woman's delusional. She thinks she was found to not have abused her power as governor even though the report clearly states that she DID. She probably thinks she's a super star in the public's eyes and that, of COURSE, they want to see her parade herself around!

And I would really like to know what someone's looks have to do w. anything...what does wearing a pantsuit and having short hair have to do w. someone's ability to lead?

Love Anderson> I didn't watch it either. Fuck SNL. And if that makes me a "loser" or whatever, so be it.

I think Powell articulated very well WHY he is endorsing Obama. He thinks he's the best man for the job. *shrug* As do I. I don't think it's b/c he's black.
Btw, I'm pretty sure Powell would be considered a moderate Republican.

dannygrl> Angry and depressed? Wha'???
provolone> Palin was found to have abused her power as governor. I don't care how many times she says she wasn't. It's right there!!!

Submitted by Provolone on October 19, 2008 - 7:58pm.

I'm watching a lot of the vids on the young turks site.

Can you recommend a site or collection of vids that address similar topics from the republican side?

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Submitted by aquarius on October 19, 2008 - 8:02pm.

Thanks for not arguing the points. Guess that means you agree with this 'dumb dumb'.

PS Hellacious....

On gay marriage in the debate they prefaced the question to Biden and Palin as "would you allow the rights gay couples already have in alaska for the rest of America". SO seems to me Alaska is AHEAD of America in that aspect. Some "HATEFUL" woman huh?? And Obama and McCain have the same stance on gay marriage. So fuck off with your feigned hatred of Palin, because you can't even do that right.

Submitted by Provolone on October 19, 2008 - 7:58pm.

IMO, beginning your argument with "HEY IDIOT" makes YOU come off as dumb.