Prop 8 Passed....
Look at these two precious lesbians being all smiley and married. Well, Prop 8 has come along and stomped all over their pure happiness. They're just two sad lesbians now and that is a sin! Gayelles should never be sad.
Prop 8, which re-bans gay marriage, will most likely pass. Right now 95% of the votes have been counted. 52% are for and 48% are against. There's still around 4 million absentee ballots that need to be counted, but it's probably not enough to turn things around. The state is no longer marrying the gays as of today. It's looking grim and gross.
A few of the 18,000 couples that were married will file lawsuits. Civil rights groups are also challenging the measure by asking the Supreme Court to strike it down based on the argument that you can't just take shit away from one certain group.
I don't get this shit. I'm a tax-paying dumb bitch like everyone else. I should have the right to fly to California, catch a sugar daddy on his death bed, marry him, wait a couple of months for him to kick it and then collect all his cash. Seriously, that's my lifelong goal and now a bunch of fun killers in California have stopped me from being able to achieve this!
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Howard Ahmanson gave millions to get rid of gay marriage!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Ahmanson,_Jr.
this guy is also against "Affirmative Action" and is favor of another form of lynching called the stoning of gays! He's a diagnose schizophrenic and has Tourettes! yeah (my) Blacks sided with a racist demon to helped ban gay marriages! I ended a 28 year old relationship with someone who has a gay brother because she voted against gay marriages! and she was black! The Church (religion) got my people so chained up, if it were worded in a way would vote themselves back into fucking SLAVERY!!! fuck the religious and also people who call females "whores", "bitch" "ho" and the like because that type of language stems from The Buybull that demeans females and makes is ok to call us such nasty words just like its wrong to call someone a "fag"!
Prop 8 and the Black Vote
http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2008/11/prop-8-and-the.htm...
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Obama is not in favor of gay marriage but he was OPPOSED to Prop 8
"I think it's unnecessary. I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage. But when you start playing around with constitutions, just to prohibit somebody who cares about another person, it just seems to me that's not what America's about. Usually, our constitutions expand liberties, they don't contract them."
In addition to expressing his opposition to Proposition 8, Obama said he believes and supports "strong civil unions ... that provide legal rights to same-sex couples [so] that they can visit each other in the hospital if they get sick, [so] they can transfer property to each other. If they've got benefits, they can make sure those benefits apply to their partners. I think that's the direction we need to go in. I think young people are ahead of the curve on this for the most part. Their attitude, generally, is that we should be respectful of all people, and that's the kind of politics I want to practice."
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Guys can you please sign this petition against prop 8 and pass it on to your friends...... http://www.petitiononline.com/8311990/petition.html
I am a card carrying hetero and registered Independent and I just don't fucking get it! If gays want to marry why shouldn't they be able to and why the fuck is the government interested in what they do anyway? Fuck it, let them marry (and divorce). What the fuck are voters in Cal thinking? Maybe it's not suprising if you think about it, Obama has publicly said he opposes gay marriage and Cal went overwhelming for BO, I guess the trail is there somehow.
In this country there should be no second class CITIZENS. As long as someone harms no other citizen or group of citizens, they should be allowed to do whatever they want.
70% of black voters supported the gay-marriage ban. How's that for irony?
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2008/11/70-of-african-a.html
Submitted by faeriegirl on November 6, 2008 - 2:53am.
The couples suing are ones who want to get married in the future -- the first 2 named plaintiffs were planning on getting married this year but one of their parents was in ill health so the wedding had to be postponed. The rest are planning on getting married (for the sake of marriage itself or for the sake of adopting a child) sometime in the near future. They're asking for an injunction on Prop 8 until the lawsuit has passed, basically.
I feel awful for them. I know how hard it is to plan a wedding when most of your family lives hours away... I can't even imagine if they had passed a law saying I could no longer marry my husband!
The only way the lawsuit could be any more well-written was if it mentioned the ass tax and In-and-Out Burger lucite gift bags. I have high hopes that it will win and Prop 8 will be overturned.
Those statistics, like all, can be skewed any way you want them. How many PEOPLE, period, voted for Prop 8? Probably more whites than blacks, huh?
And as a white person from a racist state with no desire to be racist myself, I'm not in the habit of blaming one historically persecuted group for helping (along with a healthy-sized white electorate) deny rights to another historically-persecuted group. I blame the types of people with whom I have been acquainted my entire life -- older (and a few younger) conservative "Christians" who believe that being gay is a choice, that gays are child molesters, that soon people will be able to marry their dogs and farm animals, et. al. These beliefs, period, are what is wrong -- for blacks and for whites -- and are not unique to either race.
So saying, "Ohhh, if all the blacks hadn't come out to vote, Prop 8 would have passed," is a fallacy. The question was worded quite strangely, and there are quite a few non-English native speakers in California, I don't doubt that a great deal of people were confused and voted for when they meant against, or vice versa. With so many factors at play, it's impossible to pin blame on only one source.
Submitted by kagagoogoo on November 6, 2008 - 4:41am.
"Without a link source, your info means dick shit, honey..."
I didn't realize Dlisted requires sources, but since you're too lazy to google or read the news, here you go:
http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_10910908
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/33...
http://onlineapps.newsvine.com/_news/2008/11/05/2075874-oh-the-irony-bla...
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-139408
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Submitted by LunaChick on November 6, 2008 - 4:26am.
Not my words - just reporting what I've read in numerous newspapers (online) and other sites...
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Without a link source, your info means dick shit, honey. Please back your shit up if you're going to post on such a heated topic.
Not my words - just reporting what I've read in numerous newspapers (online) and other sites...
Barack Obama may have helped California Proposition 8 gay marriage ban pass.
Around 70 per cent of the African-American voters who overwhelmingly backed Mr. Obama also approved Proposition 8, helping pass the controversial ballot measure despite a small majority of whites voting against the ban on same-sex unions. Hispanic and Asian voters were split on the issue.
The state's black turnout jumped to 10 per cent of the electorate, up from 6 per cent in 2004, as voters inspired by Mr. Obama flocked to the polls for the first time. The Democratic candidate took the state with 61 per cent of the popular vote...
...There is some irony in a population that has benefited from increased civil liberties voting against granting those same liberties to another community--not to mention the gay community at large is very pro-civil liberties for minorities.
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it's really sad and wrong that people continue to be so judgemental about shit that is not even their business....disgusting!
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it is my understanding that the state cannot retroactively enforce this amendment meaning that the gay couples who are already married can stay married. perhaps these couples that are suing are doing it for the benefit of all gay people?
michael have you seen "for the bible tells me so" documentary - i thought it was really good.
Submitted by Lory on November 6, 2008 - 1:18am.
I feel your pain. LOL. People who try to influence my ass get the cold shoulder or a nice elephant sized butt-plug (it all depends on my mood). However, if the dolts are very persistent, they get a nice gift certificate for an immediate free ass grinding, featuring my sharp pink machete and my gold jumbo grinder(anaesthetic not included).
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Amen to dat. That's why I could never be sucked into a cult either. How *ANYONE* DOES get THERE is beyond the scope of my capacity to understand that much stupid. I'm over-simplifying though...some people are vulnerable for hardships or horrible circumstances but the rest? STUPID!
Submitted by EveryStrangersEyes on November 6, 2008 - 12:53am.
Hey ESE! Long time no see ^_^
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Submitted by ♥ on November 6, 2008 - 1:15am.
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http://www.answers.com/topic/common-law-marriage
In that long ass thing, it talks about how many states have now banned common-law marriages because people can just up and leave them when they feel like it (or try to anyway).
But I agree with you - marriage isn't necessary in this day and age. You want to be executor of your loved one's will? Go to a lawyer. You want to own the same house? Same thing. If you go to the right places, you can get all the same benefits married people get without actually tying the knot. I mean, call me old fashioned, but what's wrong with living in sin?!
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I feel your pain. LOL. People who try to influence my ass get the cold shoulder or a nice elephant sized butt-plug (it all depends on my mood). However, if the dolts are very persistent, they get a nice gift certificate for an immediate free ass grinding, featuring my sharp pink machete and my gold jumbo grinder(anaesthetic not included).
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Submitted by QueenCharisma on November 6, 2008 - 1:03am.
Submitted by ♥ on November 5, 2008 - 11:52pm.
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The common-law thing was also overturned in most states. I know that in PA, if you were common-law after '92, you're not considered married or given the rights that common-law spouses get. It's insane.
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QC, you'd be surprised though (even in Cali). I might be behind in my laws though.
Maybe we should just abolish 'marriage' altogether and start some new shit and make some REAL change. Fuck marriage. I hate weddings. Too pricey and antiquated. The woman's parent's have to pay? That's it! Two women marrying mean the parents have to split the cost but two men? Whattaya do? See. Money. ALLLLLLLLL About MONEY. *that was my attempt at humor btw*
Submitted by Lory on November 6, 2008 - 12:59am.
LOL. Does that mean you endorse prop 8 too? I keed, I keed. LOL. As for any bitch who wants to teach me about Dems, Reps, Libs and/or gheys, I say to them BRING IT.
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I got nuthin'. I'm not one to influence because I hate people who try to influence me so it's a wash. lol
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Submitted by Manimal5 on November 6, 2008 - 12:59am.
It's always about the ass tax.Hehe
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Consider your ass taxed then!
Submitted by ♥ on November 5, 2008 - 11:52pm.
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The common-law thing was also overturned in most states. I know that in PA, if you were common-law after '92, you're not considered married or given the rights that common-law spouses get. It's insane.
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Submitted by NitWitty on November 5, 2008 - 11:55pm.
I said earlier and I'll say it again. Every gay in California should refuse to pay their state taxes as long as they're being denied the same rights as any other taxpayer in the state.
It's always about the ass tax.Hehe
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Submitted by Lory on November 6, 2008 - 12:43am.
You kidder, you. Right? *gulp*
Where's that stupid, self-riteous bitch "Hysteria" to tell us how Democrats are for the Gays. *double eye roll*
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LOL. Does that mean you endorse prop 8 too? I keed, I keed. LOL. As for any bitch who wants to teach me about Dems, Reps, Libs and/or gheys, I say to them BRING IT.
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i still can't believe it! i thought we (society) were beyond that.
now how about making this an opportunity for another state to stand up and allow same sex marriage. maybe Nevada, they can open their arms and welcome them. maybe it would boost their economy, and bump up tourism for weddings even more?
just a thought, i don't see why it couldn't be made into a marketing venture to promote tolerance, and acceptance to all people. no matter race, creed, or orientation!
Submitted by miso-horny on November 6, 2008 - 12:48am.
not one to get into politics stuff here, just wanted to say... HI, MISO!!
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This link below I hope might sway the scientifically illiterate trolls basing their gay bashing on biblical text written by men who had no clue about genetics. They didn't even know about frickin' bacteria back then. If you think about it, the bible didn't throw us one fucking scientific bone. But thanks to modern science we can now get a broader perspective of how genetics shapes our sexual orientation, ergo homosexuality IS a completely natural variation of human sexuality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5vrNYA_nik
It's ironic that in its quest for immortality, religion itself may lead to our extinction.
I really thought it wouldn't pass in California. Sad.
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Submitted by Lory on November 6, 2008 - 12:43am.
You kidder, you. Right? *gulp*
Where's that stupid, self-riteous bitch "Hysteria" to tell us how Democrats are for the Gays. *double eye roll*
The biggest Prop 8 endorsers are self-hating closted gheys who do not want their paramours dragging their asses out of the closet when they get tired of the frilly gold plated butt plugs they get on them birthdays and they start asking for the ring... (cock ring, clit ring, nip ring but a ring nonetheless...)
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Submitted by kiwikim on November 5, 2008 - 11:44pm.
The fucking mormons can have a trillion wives, all of them child brides, and then they get a bunch of money together to convince the hispanic catholic machismo filled voters in CA that gays are evil. Zionists need to burn in alien hell with the Scientologists. Their fucking creepy founders can battle it out to the death.
I also don't get how they can invalidate these marriages. You can't pass laws and retroactively enforce them. Someone explain this american fuckery to me.
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Think of it as an american version of the New Zealand electoral finance act whereby Helen Clark (the prime minister) changed a law retroactively to prevent one of her ministers being charged. I believe the name was 'Key'.. ?
It's like that.
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I said earlier and I'll say it again. Every gay in California should refuse to pay their state taxes as long as they're being denied the same rights as any other taxpayer in the state.
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Submitted by kiwikim on November 5, 2008 - 11:44pm.
I also don't get how they can invalidate these marriages. You can't pass laws and retroactively enforce them. Someone explain this american fuckery to me.
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Fucking seriously. This shit makes me want to cry. How heart wrenching. And fuck! Straight people who are too lazy to actually marry for whatever reason can even legally have a "common-law" marriage after a certain amount of time.
The fucking mormons can have a trillion wives, all of them child brides, and then they get a bunch of money together to convince the hispanic catholic machismo filled voters in CA that gays are evil. Zionists need to burn in alien hell with the Scientologists. Their fucking creepy founders can battle it out to the death.
I also don't get how they can invalidate these marriages. You can't pass laws and retroactively enforce them. Someone explain this american fuckery to me.
Submitted by ♥ on November 5, 2008 - 11:24pm.
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Submitted by chickadee on November 5, 2008 - 11:17pm.
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Submitted by chickadee on November 5, 2008 - 11:17pm.
Well, I am a native Cali "LIBERAL" and I didn't vote for prop 8. I don't get it...I hate it....
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I don't get it either? It's disheartening. -And, anyone trying to suggest it was the big black vote turnout being responsible are ignorant assholes. A liberal state passing that shit meant there are a lot of Dems of ALL colors who are more for themselves and not for EVERYONE. Depressing.
Submitted by ♥ on November 5, 2008 - 11:15pm.
I don't get it? Cali is one of the most liberal states in the Union? They vote in a Democrat for pres and I thought liberals were for the gays? WTF? *rolls eyes*
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Well, I am a native Cali "LIBERAL" and I didn't vote for prop 8. I don't get it...I hate it....
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This happened in California? That really is unbelievable.
I don't get it? Cali is one of the most liberal states in the Union? They vote in a Democrat for pres and I thought liberals were for the gays? WTF? *rolls eyes*
ooooooohhhhh! I am so furious that this mother-effing prop passed in Cali (yeah, I have called it that and I am an LA native, guess I am lame,)...
I voted no like 10 times but I guess it didn't help.
I want to throw up, why all the hate?
It will never stand up to the Supreme Court, its discrimination, plain and simple....
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Submitted by DUDE on November 5, 2008 - 8:25pm.
I've never, ever heard a native refer to our home state as "Cali".
I've heard Mexican-Americans and Mexicans say it. They're def natives. (As an aside, a lot of Asians say it, too, cuz it rolls off the tongue for them.) I like it cuz it saves me 3 syllables. :)
I saw she has a personal blog on ^^^^^^MillionaireLoving. C O M^^ ^^^^, a private site for millionaire & celebrity I heard of from a friend of mine. Does she want to hook up with strong guys?
People should be more focused more on their own messed up marriages and less on what gays are doing. There are too many divorces as it is.
Sad. Oh well, at least we got to enjoy watching Sulu snub Bill Shatner by not inviting him to his wedding. HAHA. You suck, Shatner.
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Totally shallow, but I love Portia's wedding dress!
I haven't read the comments yet, but I just want to say that I read the lawsuit filed today and it is very solid. The composition of the California Supreme Court is the same as in 2004, so it's highly unlikely that Prop 8 won't be struck down.
The Constitution of California is unique in that it fundamentally guarantees civil rights to all groups -- it didn't have to add amendments guaranteeing these rights, like the US did with the 14th Amendment. So adding an amendment (which they're arguing is really a revision, and therefore illegal) that takes these rights AWAY from one specific group is obviously completely against the spirit of the California Constitution, and it's not going to stand.
That said, I am truly disappointed that there are still so many bigoted people in the world. I don't even know if I want to read the comments, because I know that if there are 400+ that means the trolls are out. My sister-in-law recently came out (in a very conservative state) and is having a hard time dealing with the subsequent negative attention, and my heart breaks for her sometimes. She is only 17, and one of the bravest people I know. I remember how scared and confused I was about sex and love in high school (and into college) and I had the added privilege of not having my sexual preference scrutinized, ridiculed, and condemned by a large proportion of society. I can't even imagine what she must be going through so much of the time, and for what reason? So some Southern Baptist can feel like he's earning points in heaven? It makes me sick.
Submitted by City Barbie on November 5, 2008 - 9:51pm.
I'm sorry. It's been a bad day. I've spent my entire day off . . . on the internet. And way too many people seem to be just fine with stoning us. Or putting us in ovens. Or using bogus psych manipulations to fuck our brains until we willingly walk into traffic.
My boy just sent me this smart ass little cartoon to prove a point. http://veryfunnies.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/someone-is-wrong-272x3...
@ radio siren:
thanks for posting that, didn't catch the comments section when I read the article. But I feel energized after last night. These people have nearly made Christianity synonymous with hate, just look at the nasty bitter trolls on this thread. I'm not a Christian, but I know good Christians, including my gay sister, who are deeply hurt by this. So in parting: YES WE CAN. We shall overcome.
I was so proud yesterday when we voted in Obama, but I'm so disgusted and embarrassed for my state of California today. I really don't understand how people buy into the reasoning that gay marriage somehow taints heterosexual marriage. I'm a person who values marriage and I really feel that gays wanting to marry actually HONORS marriage. It shows that the institution of marriage entailing love and commitment is still something desirable! There are not many better values than love and commitment and I find it honorable that gays are seeking these values in their own lives.
Here's a great comment I found on the site that Pearl Necklace linked to:
"I recently attended the civil uinion of my friend Roger to his partner Ron with my wife, and from everything supporters of prop 8 have told me I expected an immediate diminishment of my love for my wife, oddly I felt nothing different. At the reception someone slipped and wished the happy couple luck on thier new marriage, surely this was it I thought, the complete destruction of my own marriage, once again I found I still was in love with my wife. As the night progressed I never once found that the expression of anothers love ever affecting my own marriage in any mesurable way. I was also surprised that despite predictions the vengeful hand of God seemed very much in abbeyance, I was so concerned I asked the minister who performed the ceremony when I could expect to find polygamy,incest and bestiality all acceptable as I had heard gay marriage was the gateway to all of them, unfortunately he had no ansewers just some spiel about if God is love how could affirmation of that love be an affront to Him, yadda, yadda.
"It's been 5 months now and I am still waiting for my marriage to be snuffed like a candle in the winds of gay marriage, and for the complete moral break down of society the right has been promising me. I am begining to suspect that they may be incorrect, but it could be my understanding of thier message so if anyone can explain it to me without quoting the bible I'd really appreciate it."
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CHOKE on your repressed sexuality, Howard "Tourettes Bigot" Ahmanson.
Diego Diego!! Calm down! Of COURSE I see something wrong with stoning gay people! I'm a lesbian! When I asked you what your point was I suppose I sounded confrontational. If so, I'm Sorry about that. I was looking for your thread and couldn't find it. As for the hatemongers you were quoting, I can't and don't keep up with all the folks out there who wish me dead. It's too damn depressing. I was just trying to figure out why you put that quote there. I think it's time for me to sign off. It's still early here but I feel exhausted after the last 24hours. Peace out and have a great evening. :-)