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No Angel-I , I dont hate gays. YOU, on the other hand, are so caught up in your black/white: "if you're anti gay marriage, then you hate gays/if youre pro gay marriage, then you are a tolerant angel" attitude, that it has blinded you from seeing the nuances. The idea of someone opposing gay marriage and not wanting evil things for gay people just brings your world down...i mean what else would you be doing if you werent out there convincing yourself of this and hating peoiple who oppose gay marriage?

And btw, I bring up the black and women issue thing, because many people compare this to the civil rights movement and before I hear someoen blabber again "oh but, it is the same thing as black people opposing lynching 60 years ago" I wanted to make it a point that it isnt.

I dont hate gay people. I really dont. What I hate, is intolerant assholes (oh, not name calling, but you ARE an asshole!) taking the high ground on issues and becoming exactly that what they critisize in others.

And relax, gay marriage is not the end all be all of all issue. Peoples' rights will not crumble or diminish because of this. Relax. You want drama, go read another article on Lindsay Lohan or some shit...

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I'm shocked that this debate is still going on. Why shouldn't gay couples be free to marry and raise families? After all according to Thomas Jefferson all men were created equal. And that should not be left open to interpretation.

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Submitted by angel_i on November 8, 2008 - 11:01am.

To my minority view, it's wrong to call any fellow blogger names. But everyone does it. My pollyannish wish is that people here could discuss topics without yelling, personal insults, F bombs, and all that. This tends to be a heavily liberal blog, so someone like CPG who voices a non-popular opinion gets savaged. I guess I'm just asking for tolerance of opinion by everyone.

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Submitted by Sheeps on November 8, 2008 - 10:58am.

Submitted by CandyPerfumeGirl on November 8, 2008 - 10:54am.

Good points. You do tend to be stoned on this blog if you don't toe the party line. I think it's often just as intolerant as the people being accused of intolerance. I wish discussions here could be civil,
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O - but it's ok for her to call me: juvenile and ridiculous.

Children need a mother and father (yes I know there are single parents out there - but having 2 daddies is not really the same as having only one mom).
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How about two dads and a mom - or two moms and a dad? Cuz that's how the gay people that CAN marry here often do it.

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@CandyPerfumeGirl:

What's the difference between marriage and partnership?

Have you ever heard the phrase: I'm not married to the idea.

PS. you're the hater - YOU're the one who keeps comparing it to black people. YOU're the ONLY one. And it's because you have no argument. No one is telling you not to live your life the way you do -just not to tell other people how to live.

PPS. Saying Gay People can't commit is just rude. They're just people - just like you. I mention these other things because this is just the beginning - if we can forbid people from PURSUING A HAPPINESS that doesn't hurt others - they we can continue to forbid it until we're back in a fascist state. You think it doesn't affect you but that's just because you have no forward thinking.

PPPS. I never never called you a name. Well - I just called you a hater - but you are. You hate gays - don't try to lie about it.

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Submitted by CandyPerfumeGirl on November 8, 2008 - 10:54am.

Good points. You do tend to be stoned on this blog if you don't toe the party line. I think it's often just as intolerant as the people being accused of intolerance. I wish discussions here could be civil, but they often aren't. So I limit my posts to Spencer and Heidi--wait, bad example--Lindsay.

You wanna go parade your gayness, go for it. I dont have a problem with gay people. I dont "cringe" at the thought of them...I dont think they shouldnt have rights or parades or anything like that. Give them all the tax fucking breaks in the world. Expand your bars...shit i love Madonna oldies and I have a gay guy friend who is a sweetheart and I wish him only the best and we hang out and do our thing and have an awesome time. Be who you are and celebrate it. Shouldnt matter who you chose to love. Human rights above all. No one should get hurt. I just dont think it should be called marriage. Get a civil union.

Throughout history and across civilizations marriage has been between a man and a woman or a combination thereof...but the man/woman thing was there. Evolutionary, sexual reproduction is what drives natural selection and LIFE. Children need a mother and father (yes I know there are single parents out there - but having 2 daddies is not really the same as having only one mom).

I find it very scary that people are not allowed to voice their opinions in this country about how they feel about gay marriage out of fear that they will be publicly stoned or something. Look at yourselves, all those "pro same sex marriage" people: you are doing exactly what you tell others not to do. You dismiss opponents as sick haters or call them names etc. You think they are defective. I mean admit it, for you there is no difference between a racist, a pedophile and someone who opposes gay marriage. It's like you are the Nazis of the gay movement.

It's disgusting. Just accept the fact that marriage is something that goes beyond "awww, i love him, i wanna be with him" - it is a very important part of society and people, proponents and opponents- have a say in whether it should be legalized or not. And CA decided they dont want it.

Dont compare being gay to being black or a woman. Different movements. And please stop these ridiculous "oh maybe dwarves shouldnt be allowed to marry or ppl in wheelchairs shouldnt be allowed in theatres" blah blah blegh stupid comparisons. It's juvenile and distracts form the issue at hand.

Man you guys seem like a bunch of intolerant haters yourselves, albeit closet ones. But since you are hating to get people something, you take the high ground. Like it is ok for you to resort to name calling and give people in the US the impression that if they speak their mind freely, they will face prosecution, because after all, you are advocating something as opposed to opposing it. Ipso facto you are a better person and everyone else is wrong. Right.

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Did you ever notice that the more "Progress and Liberal" American culture becomes, the more fucked up we get? For example: Kids killing kids, Mom's killing kids, Dad's killing Mom's pregnant with kids...where is the moral ceiling in this joint? Another example:
Pedophiles have sexual preferences too, but that doesn't mean I'll ever vote for a man to marry a 5 year old girl even if she wants too.

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Nothing against homosexuality, but could y'all be a little less proud? I'm hetero, and I don't need a pride parade or a 30 foot float in the shape of my cock to know who I am. Maybe people would be a little more accepting if it wasn't constantly rammed down their throats.

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Candy perfume girl,

I'd just like to thank you and all yes voters on behalf of the gay community. You have united us, made us come together, far more resilient and powerful than ever before. Now we are one voice and much stronger for it.

If you Yes vote was based on "cultural" aspects rather than religious, than your vote was stemmed from discomfort of homosexuality and here's what I really need to stress toward your stress...gays aren't going anywhere. Gay couples will continue to couple up. Gay bars will continue remixing 500 + remixes of Madonna dance beats. Gay communities will continue to flourish...and if anything, this new found disapproval and constitutional over turn has energized us to REALLY be who we are and put our own comfort levels and happiness before the appeasement of folks like yourself.

The good fight continues for us, but if you think this decision has defeated us in being who we are and being PROUD of who we inherently are...it's the polar opposite. It's made us REALLY pride ourselves in being gay. It's not about acceptance and "please like me" anymore...it's about justice (for all).

Your scare tactics are the true lost cause in this story, and I'm glad to know there's over 4 million folks in this state who make your "cultural" viewpoints uncomfortable.

Cariogenic Scent Slut,

Just because you don't believe in something does not mean it should be banned particularly when it causes you no real harm. I for one do not like gum chewing slatterns or gossipy fishwives in curlers, particularly those at the express check out lines with too many items who pay with wrinkled coupons and coins. They make me late to things and cause great consternation. But what am I gonna do write a proposition? After all your ranting and logorrhea I really have not seen you give one reason why you feel gay marriage threatens in any way the culture which you wish to preserve. Or is it that you cannot stand the thought of two men marrying, while you yourself, suffering from a dearth of suitors, are lusting for those marital tax breaks?

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PS. Before I go. People are taking her really literally but I think she's just tryna make a point. This is supposed to be a FREE country. I don't see much freedom - do you?

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@CandyPerfumeGirl:

I'm supposed to be in bed but dayum gurl!

You have not said WHY! WHY are you against it? Because Obama is? Because you think it's icky? Because you think it's cool that some people are allowed to do things that other people are not? I just don't get it. Please do NOT tell me that people will cheat on taxes and benefits and such because it is JUST as easy - especially in this day and age - for people of the opposite sex to do that. I mean - seriously - you can make MONEY just marrying people so they can get citizenship.
Of course, they have to be the opposite sex - but that's easy enough, no?

It'll be SO great when they say people in wheelchairs aren't allowed to go to movies.

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Aquarius,

THAT is the fallacy here. I am NOT religious. Are you kidding? I am far from it. My arguments against gay marriage are cultural NOT religious.

You guys are all so caught up in your sterotyping of everyone woh is anti gay marriage as a bigoted, religious fuck ...and THIS is why you lost the fight in Cali. You underestimated why people oppose this. You dismissed them as a bunch of religious haters and they are not. CA is a very liberal state compared to most so it is not religious intolerance speaking.

Dont compare gay marriage to abortion or being black. I am pro choice and pro abortion. I really think everyone should have the right to abort a pregnancy if they want to. I am not religious. I am ultra left liberal, I am for legalizing marijuana, ...and i am against gay marriage.

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Although I agree everyone should have equal rights. Residents of this country still have to pay taxes and cannot vote among other limitations. I don't support her argument.
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Submitted by Sheeps on November 6, 2008 - 9:53pm.

Submitted by Tubereuse on November 6, 2008 - 8:47pm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prop_22

I myself support gay marriage but more than that I support the will of the people. If we follow Melissa's thinking, all the McCain/Palin supporters should stop paying taxes, too?

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I like your last point in general. I get pissed off at all kinds of new laws or political selections, but that's the stumbling, herky-jerky way that democracy works.

As far as Prop 22, it was a statute (a law) enacted by popular initiative. It therefore could be overturned or superseded by another statute or even by a court--happens all the time.

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Hi Sheeps! :) Thank you for the explanation.
I'm still confused . . .

According to Wikipedia, "Central to many subsequent disputes over Prop 22's effect is a distinction between statutes enacted by the legislature and initiative statutes enacted directly by the electorate. The legislature is free to amend or rescind its own enactments, but voters must approve any attempt by the legislature to amend or repeal an initiative statute."

I think, had it been (properly, in my opinion) given to the electorate, they would have voted down the repeal -- giving the same result as what we got on the 4th via Prop 8.
I'd be interested in seeing a breakdown of the ages of people who voted yes, if it was mostly people over 50, for instance . . . How many more years (if ever) might it take for people to be tolerant and mind their own business.

Submitted by CandyPerfumeGirl on November 7, 2008 - 5:14pm.

Obama is not in FAVOR of gay marriage, but he also DOESN'T want to make it illegal. Therein lies the difference, and it's a big one.

It's like being pro-life v. pro-choice: pro-lifers don't want ANYONE to have an abortion, period, while pro-choicers -- although they may not agree with abortion, or want to get one themselves -- don't think it should be made illegal. I know many people who think abortion is murder but are still pro-choice, because they recognize that not everyone shares -- or should be forced to share -- this belief.

Both stances -- pro-choice and anti-gay marriage -- have their root in religious intolerance. I say: If you don't agree with [abortion, gay marriage, living in sin, eating meat on Fridays, etc.] don't do it! If you're against gay marriage, well, don't marry a gay person of your own gender! But don't try to force society as a whole to conform to your largely religious-based philosophy, PARTICULARLY when it involves depriving an entire faction of people of their fundamental rights. Last I heard, there was a separation of church and state, and I have heard precious few arguments against gay marriage that are not somehow rooted in religion.

So there you go, HE IS NOT IN FAVOR OF IT...but he didnt wanna come across as an asshole saying he doesnt understand the plight of people who love each other and wanna get hitched and so he referenced this lofty "this is not what America is about" - i. e. I will not amend the Constitution to prohibit gay marriage but I will also not change it to include it.

I think that is as diplomatic you can get.

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Here is what Obama said about Prop 8

"I think it's unnecessary. I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage. But when you start playing around with constitutions, just to prohibit somebody who cares about another person, it just seems to me that's not what America's about. Usually, our constitutions expand liberties, they don't contract them."

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how do YOU know what was going through his head and what he was struggling for? Also, i would love to see the sources that states that he was opposing prop 8. Seems like wishful thinking to me or made up, cause it couldnt be that our poster child for the worker's party, Mr. Obama, could possibly be against same sex marriage. What blasphemy. Dont get mt wrong, I respect and adore Obama and voted for him...I am just sort of being cynical here cause I think you are all mistaken to believe that those who oppose same sex marriage are defective bigots.

IF he lied (and i mean IF) and pretended he opposes gay marriage to win, then he is a sell out and lacks integrity. Lying blatantly over something like that to win an office is as low as you can go. And i dont think he is that kind of person.

Let's face it, you either oppose or are in favor of same sex marriage. There is no "diplomatic" way of putting it so you dont offend people. You cant be "sort of" for it.

I find it interesting that when Obama opposes same sex marriage it is considered "smart" and just a "political move" (he is the PRESIDENT OF THE US...he can bring that change if he wants to) but when normal people (like Californians) oppose gay marriage, then they are called haters and bigots and fanatics.

Oh and good luck to Melissa with trying to fuck with the IRS. IRS wont let you get off the hook even when you declare bankruptcy. She wont get exempted cause she is a dyke.

Incidentally I should oppose paying taxes too until every person in the US has health care...everyone has their projects.

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Submitted by Sensimina on November 7, 2008 - 4:27pm.

A-fucking-men! It is sickening how many drunk-driving accidents there are in my hometown (including the one that killed my brother) and yet the open-container laws aren't even enforced. Meanwhile, you can be arrested for less than a joint's worth of weed...

At least here in NY it's somewhat decriminalized. I think under 3/4 of an ounce is just a $100 civil citation. That's how it should be everywhere -- maybe not 100% decriminalized, as there are a lot of huge pot dealers that specialize in other drugs too, but at least enough to keep from throwing occasional (or, er, frequent) mj users in jail for no apparent reason.

Obama opposed Prop 8, which leads me to believe that in spite of what he said in the debate, he doesn't really oppose gay marriage. If he had stated that directly, however, he wouldn't have been elected. He's smart, he knows that and it was a compromise I'm sure he didn't want to have to make.

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I think Mellisa Etheridge is a class act. She seems like an intelligent lady.
Personally, I think gay marriage should be legal. I don't give two fucks who wants to marry whom as long as they are consenting adults. They're probably going to end up divorced anyway the way the divorce rate is.
I can see both sides of the issue, though, and I don't think it will be legalized anytime soon...Obama has stated that he is against gay marriage and believes that marriage is between a man and a woman. There would be a huge uproar if gay marriage were made legal across the board and honestly, politicians don't want to deal with that.
Now I am sick and tired of being discriminated against because I smoke weed! There's a real issue. Why should it be illegal for me to get my high on? Cigarettes and alcohol are legal and they are way worse. Again, no matter how helpful it would be for the economy or how pleasing to the US citizens, that's another thing that won't be legalized anytime soon.

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Submitted by CandyPerfumeGirl on November 7, 2008 - 12:07pm.

If marriage has been so devalued that it "doesn't really mean anything anymore anyway," then why it worth it to take this right AWAY from homosexuals? Obviously it means SOMETHING to a lot of people, whether they're for Prop 8 or against it.

And your issue with single v. married taxes is missing the point. I agree with you that our society and tax system is set up to encourage marriage and families (and religion -- churches being tax exempt and all), but single or childless people are not being DENIED any rights that married people have, and vice versa.

In fact, it's a double slap in the face to gays -- our tax system is set up to encourage people to marry and have kids, while Prop 8 is designed to prevent gays from doing so.

So I won't have to pay Cal State income Tax? Fuck it, I'm gay!

I am with her in spirit but wouldn't choose this venue to protest. State of Cal is broke, they will come after her dyke ass for every fucking nickel owed. Wonder if she voted for BO, he has avowed publickly that he is against gay marriages. She must feel really conflicted if she did.

Why shouldn't everybody have the chance to be happy if they want to be regardless of their sexual preference. It just strikes me as odd we are even having this conversation in 2008!

The definition of a word is based on the consent of those who use the word, and reflects behavior much more than establishing it. A significant minority of people in this country are in fact gay, and do in fact use the word marriage to define a relationship which is in most respects identical to a heterosexual marriage. It seems petty and futile to try to enforce a restricted definition, then, assaulting the rights and the emotions of a significant minority of citizens without bringing any real benefit or protection to the majority.

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"We've made you what you are, and we get nothing back......

--> what gay married couples made me who I am? What are you talking about?

And re civil rights: please dont compare being black and lynched or being a woman to being gay. There are some ppl who believe that marriage should be between a man and woman and their reasoning for thinking so is not based on any fucking religious arguments.

Anyway Obama himself is not for same sex marriage so I wouldnt get my hopes up. And the current supreme court justices will also never legalize same sex marriage federally. Marriage, unlike race, affects society and peoples' lives, so they have a say in it and should vote on it. You shouldnt have a say on peoples' lives because their skin is dark or they are from a different ethnicity, but you should be able ot have a say about the things that make society and family what it is - marriage being one of them.

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I think this country should work on improving EVERY issue including animal and human rights! I mean we are SUPPOSED to be the leader of the Free world. Yet we aren't setting good examples.

Submitted by CandyPerfumeGirl on November 7, 2008 - 12:22pm.

I think you and I correctly identify the problem here but from different perspective. I agree that marriage affects people on a personal level. But that's exactly why I think it shouldn't be anybody's business to decide whether their fellow citizens have the right to get married or not ! The Supreme Court gave them that right, why should it be taken away by "commoners" (in a totally non pejorative way) ?

I'm surprised that people could be against gay marriage. Period. Why does it annoy other people so much that gays can marry ? I'll never know !

Otherwise, I do agree that animal rights are important, and I'm actually happy that Prop 2 passed. But very disappointed that Prop 8 passed as well.

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Submitted by CandyPerfumeGirl on November 7, 2008 - 12:17pm.

Well, If you remember, Prop 8 was there to FORBID something that had already been approved. So they spent money to stop homosexuals from being able to get married. To restrict people from their civil rights. Yes, that's right. CIVIL RIGHTS.

I agree with you, it shouldn't be that big of a deal. Just let them get married like everybody else and move on ! Children of Africa are a-awaiting !

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MUSE: marriage affects ppl on a PERSONAL LEVEL whereas animal rights doesnt.

you seem surprised that people woh are against gay marriage could POSSIBLY be the kind of people who care about animal rights? Are you people thinking that everyone opposing gay marriage is an evil, religious hater? Heartless people woh have the misery and suffering of others in mind?

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PGE and google spent money on this issue that they could have spent on a myriad of other things, like I dont know...children dying of stravation in the tens of thousands every week in Africa for example? This whole debate is a waste of resources. Let them fucking marry so we can get it over with man. This shouldnt be about "civil rights" (if you can call it that0 - this is now a matter of pure resource constraints. Stop wasting money on this.
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Submitted by CandyPerfumeGirl on November 7, 2008 - 12:07pm.

Thank you for the kind words you said to me. I appreciate how we can have nice dialog here on Dlisted.

As I was trying to say before you cut in like a mad person, I didn't say the two issues were linked, I just made the observation that the two propositions were submitted to the vote at the same time on the same ballot. And that the animal prop passed and unfortunately, prop 8 also passed.

Your own words : "marriage is a big deal whereas expanding the cages is not society defining". Exactly. So, in my mind, we should MAYBE get preoccupied with what's SOCIETY DEFINING first, giving a part of the population the same rights as the rest of the people and then, if we have time, get down with animal rights and expand their conditions of living.

PS : you're a dumbass.

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Submitted by CandyPerfumeGirl on November 7, 2008 - 12:07pm.

Bocca, FUCK OFF. This is ALL about discrimination of some sorts. I am so tired of this damn same sex marriage issue and how it has become THE be all and end all of all issues. We have more important and pressing issues to talk and worry about than why gay people dont get ot marry
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That's right. Until it's dwarves who can't get married, or the epileptic or the EVER-GROWING autistic population. Hey - maybe it would be cool if we forbade people who don't make a certain amount of money from getting married. Or people who have dual citizenship. That would be fun. We can forbid people from doing all kinds of things. Like - everyone else can own a gun except gays. Hey! How about if we say it's not longer legal to live in a trailer....

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They were oppressing the Christians - but I'm not Christian so I didn't help.
They were oppressing the Blacks - but I'm not black so I didn't help.
They were oppressing the poor - but I'm not poor so I didn't help.

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Bocca, FUCK OFF. This is ALL about discrimination of some sorts. I am so tired of this damn same sex marriage issue and how it has become THE be all and end all of all issues. We have more important and pressing issues to talk and worry about than why gay people dont get ot marry. if you ask me, marriage has been so devalued nowadays it really doesnt matter who gets to get married anyway. We might as well let them just so they dont have anything else to bitch and moan about.

Oh and now I have some asshole below comparing animal rights and them being tortured to gay rights? It's like comparing apples and oranges..two completely separate issues. Like what...you cant protect animal rights if gay people arent allowed to enter into holy matrimony? Are you fucking kidding me? Who is the moron here now? Marriage is an ENTIRELY separate issue and animal rights are on a camp on their own - they are not mutually exclusive.

Plus, marriage is a big deal to people whereas expanding the cages of animals that are being tortured is not society defining.

I am really sick of this dumb debate. I am gonna focus my time on legislating policy aimed at the poor and destitute of our society, the 50 plus million who dont have health-care...we have limited resources that we can seriously use for more relevant things than gay marriage.
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LMAO Newportjoey! hahah I love you! You always make me laugh :)

Germany started the Holocaust with the same tactics. An EDUCATIONAL tour of "THE NUREMBERG LAWS" began with the same tactics.

If you STR8's think MK, Jimmy Bocca, and Joey are going to report to the nearest Post Office with our bags packed and our cha-cha heels on, your sadly mistaken.

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Submitted by CandyPerfumeGirl on November 7, 2008 - 11:53am.

I think I see what youre getting at. In my mind, I equate the topic to why LSD is illegal: it promotes spiritual questioning, which may lead people to seek peace rather than capitalism. Its not what the government wants from its people.

I still dont think its the same as denying gays the right to marry, but I do see your opint more now.

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Candyperfumegirl, I think we can ALL agree that we all get taxed out of our asses, when I look at my pay check and see that almost HALF of what I've earned for the week has been shipped off to the government I wince. Hopefully with this new administration we can start to see some tax breaks. I also agree that being married gives unfair tax breaks to people simply based on being married alone. UNLESS children are involved then I can understand but simply being married should not qualify people for tax breaks. (My personal opinion)

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Higher income ya but not singles. How is it fair to tax single people who are on their own with respect to financial obligations MORE while married people who already enjoy the benefits of double income with less taxes? WTF? (I am talking married couples without children..if they had children, they would file for exemptions for them anyway).

I tell you why, because marriage is valued more than being single. The government is institutionalizing benefits based on life-style.

If you are married, you will get rewarded, if not, you will be penalized by paying more taxes from your SINGLE PERSON INCOME. This is the government's way to promote and value a certain life style over another.

This is all discrimination. Fuck them all. either everyone is free or no one is.

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kudos jimmy.. right on.. that was an irrelevant and meaningless argument. not to mention insulting.
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Candyperfumegirl, STFU you IDIOT! Melissa Ethridge isn't complaining because she has to pay more taxes she's complaining because she's a tax paying citizen like everyone else and is not getting the same RIGHTS as a heterosexual person, being that she not able to MARRY the woman she LOVES!!! YOU MORON!!! This isn't about who pays more taxes this is about everyone pays taxes and everyone should have the same rights! How you came to your "I'm single, I'm a second class citizen" concept is absolutely ridiculous and you are making a mockery out of the real issue here! IMBECILE!

The worse in all this is that Prop 2 concerning "Standards for Confining Farm Animals" (in short, so that the animals raised for meat could be more comfy in their cage) passed with 63% of the votes.

Not that I'm against animal rights, don't get me wrong, but I find scandalous that we put animal rights first and THEN human rights. Oh yeah, because homosexuals are humans, didn't you get the memo ?

I'm disgusted.

And I thought Californians were progressive people. I guess I was wrong.

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Submitted by CandyPerfumeGirl on November 7, 2008 - 11:27am.

I think youre way off base.

Citizens are taxed at different rates, and thats not discrimination. Is it discriminatory to tax higher income-grossing individuals more than lower-income individuals? No, its got nothing to do with discrimination.

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Fuck 'Em If They Can't Take A Joke

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