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Brit Brit continued her overseas "Don't Be A'Scared, Ahs On Mah Meds" tour by performing for Simon Cowell and his delectable manchichis on X-Factor last night. Our little sedated Cheetoling once again mouthed the hell out of "Woomanizah" and did her best impersonation of a possum trying to wiggle its way out of a bear trap. Basically, it was just like her two other performances. Although, I was a little disappointed for a couple of reasons. First, she didn't wear that lil' top hat. It made her mime-act so much more jauntier. Secondly, Brit didn't do her perfect British accent! She worked on that shit all last year and now was her chance to wow the Brits by using their native tongue! Damn that Daddy Spears for forcing her to stay on the script!
Below is Brit Brit leaving X-Factor last night and at Heathrow this morning. She's NYC bound! I better put on my "sexin' outfit" and try to get close to her bodyguard. He probably has a key to her meds box and you know there's some good shit in there.
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I guess I'm trying to be optimistic about the Britster.
And why does Simon dress up for this show and not show off his glorious man titties like he does for us?
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Deb, I think you have to blow Papa Joe.
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...oy, how'd it get so down in here?
Right? Who do we have to blow to get a Paris Hilton or Blohan post?
"This ain't rock n roll. This is genocide!"
Submitted by Deb on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 5:30pm.
Submitted by angel_i on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 5:25pm.
Dude! I also think of other tormented singers/musicians/artists/actors who putsomestankonit mentioned.
The difference between them and Britney is they WERE artists in some form, and there was somebody THERE.
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And that's gonna be where I feel like we start edging on legalities. With artists - they can't stop, they won't stop, they don't stop - and they don't always put it out there, they just always make art. With Britney I'm like: What? No journals? No paintings? Etchings, videos...? No poetry, dances, deep thoughts...fucking SOMETHING!?!?!
There is nothing. So what's the point?
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For someone who thinks that her behaviour was a result of post-partum depression, how do you explain the crazy accents?
PS. Gillian Anderson has one now too.
Submitted by putsomestankonit on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 5:22pm.
Submitted by Pearl_Necklace on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 5:17pm.
I didn't post that to say "You're all a bunch of mean assholes now fuck off!"
I just wonder if behind the over medicated dance and eyes what's really going on inside of her. We don't know public Britney from private Britney. I know I present a different image of myself in public than what I'm really like in private. So it got me to thinking....
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No worries, I know you didn't. Just trying to say what Deb expressed much more clearly with her Judy Garland post. I'm afraid we do know the "private" Britney -- it's a case of What You HAVE SEEN Is What You Get. I think Luckycharms is right: She's extremely immature, or took too many damaging drugs while getting pregnant to "keep her maayun" or most likely all of the above. AND she LOVES the attention, because that's the only "love" she's known since she's been exploited by her own parents for monetary gain since she was born.
Anyhey, never into her at a pop star, so it IS sad how I only find her fascinating as an attention-starved trainwreck, seriously.
The irony of her going on a "talent" show where contestants are supposed to sing live to PROVE their "talent". And the actual "pop star" has never sung a live note in her life.
I don't feel sorry for her shes what 27, 28? The mother of TWO children, and has more money than God she can say no, fuck it I don't want to do this anymore. She's not a child anymore its time to grow the hell up. Or release her back into the wilds of Louisiana.
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Submitted by angel_i on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 5:25pm.
Dude! I also think of other tormented singers/musicians/artists/actors who putsomestankonit mentioned.
The difference between them and Britney is they WERE artists in some form, and there was somebody THERE.
When I see Britney perform or being interviewed, or even in pics of her with her children, the lights are on but, nobody's there.
"This ain't rock n roll. This is genocide!"
@luckycharms:
Now THAT I don't disagree with AT ALL.
But I'm willing to accept that I don't know fersure. What I've been seeing, tho...
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Submitted by sexytime on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 5:13pm.
Hi Keane - I also think that the medical industry does damage to people through their toxic medications - look at how the pharma companies even admit that anti-depressant drugs INCREASE the rate of suicide!
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No kidding? Which pharmas have done that?
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Submitted by luckycharms on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 5:24pm.
I don't know what she is. I'm way too old to know anything about her music. But as a psychiatric nurse for years, I can tell you I honest believe it one of two things: Either she suffered from extreme post delivery depression, or she was very, very immature and not ready to take on the responsibilities of motherhood. Both could have been complicated with drug use. I don't beleive she is clinically mentally ill. Her behavior would have been much for obvious if she was. Definitely not bi-polar. Thru (not fake diagnoise) manic depressives go through extreme highs followed by very extreme lowes. In a low they are ususally in a catatonic state that wouldn't be seen in public. She was out and about almost every day. I would bet almost anything the chick had a very bad case of extreme immaturity combined with moderate drug use.
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Submitted by Deb on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 5:20pm.
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Right on, Deb! Empathy and talent = what is lacking in Britney and why I can't feel anything more positive besides pity and the hope that she gets her bloodsucking relatives off her ass and figures out a way to at least LIKE her kids. I sincerely think she has no love for those kids. And she's no freaky monster for that unfortunately, not by a long shot. Have come across too many people who either had no love from their parents or can't feel love for their own children.
...oy, how'd it get so down in here?
I don't know what she is. I'm way too old to know anything about her music. But as a psychiatric nurse for years, I can tell you I honest believe it one of two things: Either she suffered from extreme post delivery depression, or she was very, very immature and not ready to take on the responsibilities of motherhood. Both could have been complicated with drug use. I don't beleive she is clinically mentally ill. Her behavior would have been much for obvious if she was. Definitely not bi-polar. True (not fake diagnoise) manic depressives go through extreme highs followed by very extreme lowes. In a low they are ususally in a catatonic state that wouldn't be seen in public. She was out and about almost every day. I would bet almost anything the chick had a very bad case of extreme immaturity combined with moderate drug use.
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Submitted by Deb on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 5:20pm.
You know who my heart goes out to? Judy Garland.
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Dude. Now THAT is something to think about.
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Why are they still dragging this child out on the stage to perform? How much money does the Spears clan need? Goodness!
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@Keane: I don't disagree with you. Not really. I think it's more that I define things differently. And that I don't work, primarily, with the mind but with the spirit.
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Submitted by Pearl_Necklace on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 5:17pm.
I didn't post that to say "You're all a bunch of mean assholes now fuck off!"
I just wonder if behind the over medicated dance and eyes what's really going on inside of her. We don't know public Britney from private Britney. I know I present a different image of myself in public than what I'm really like in private. So it got me to thinking....
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Submitted by Pearl_Necklace on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 5:18pm.
Plus, from what I've seen of her sane moments, she appears devoid of an empathy for anyone, including her own sons, besides herself. AND she appears very proud of her own ignorance. I can't feel sorry for a willful coddled idiot, sorry. For me, it's like being asked to feel sorry for George Bush.
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Submitted by Keane on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 4:55pm.
It has never been confirmed that she has a mental illness.
And no one has refuted it.
Why would no one refute it? Because it's nicer than divulging that she's a spoiled human having tantrums and acting out?
It is another option.
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Submitted by sexytime on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 5:13pm.
Hi Keane - I also think that the medical industry does damage to people through their toxic medications - look at how the pharma companies even admit that anti-depressant drugs INCREASE the rate of suicide!
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I have been on Paxil for years, and I know for a fact I'd be dead WITHOUT it.
I still think Brit's mental illness is a sham- they would have held her longer in the hospital if she really was.
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You know who my heart goes out to? Judy Garland. She was raised by cuckoo vaudeville people, and her dad a homosexual who was run out of their town in Minnesota for a scandal with young boys. She was put in the movie industry at a young age, and almost immediately put on drugs to make her lose weight. Then drugs to help her sleep. She was never trained in "real life" either.
And she had TALENT. At her worst, she could draw her audience to her in live performances, because as sick or fucked up as she was, there was a decent human who had empathy for others.
She provided a crazy upbringing for her kids, no doubt, but there was also no doubt that she loved them to death.
"This ain't rock n roll. This is genocide!"
angel_i yeah its probably not worth going into them as I considered becoming a psychologist myself so am pretty into it and have pretty strong views on it. Not worth getting into a debate about something when neither person has any intention of having their opinions changed! All I can say from my experience of dealing with friends with mental illness both severe (as already stated) and milder (straighforward depression as opposed to bipolar, schizophrenia etc) is that its often something that will never be completely fixed and will either have to be lived with to a degree or will come back in fits and starts throughout their life. Its not like a physical illness which can be treated once and is then cured for life. My psychologist friend says susceptibility to mental illness derives from how secure/loved you felt by your parents/family during the years 1-12. These are the formative years which determine how mentally robust you are. I have friends who had crap childhoods who have had bouts of severe depression throughout their adult lives despite having nothing teribly bad happen to them. I, on the other hand, have probably had one of the worst, mosy difficult and traumatic adulthoods but have never been remotely near becoming mentally ill. This I put down to the fact I had an incredibly secure childhood and a very loving family.
Submitted by putsomestankonit on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 5:06pm.
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I understand where you're coming from, but I think the people running her life have rationalized that they're doing the best for her just to keep themselves in the lifestyle that they're accustomed to.
Plus, from what I've seen of her sane moments, she appears devoid of an empathy for anyone, including her own sons, besides herself. AND she appears very proud of her own ignorance. I can't feel sorry for a willful coddled idiot, sorry. For me, it's like being asked to feel sorry for George Bush.
Submitted by gyeah on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 5:15pm.
Submitted by KoolThing on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 5:00pm.
I don't know enough about her to say whether or not she is mentally ill, but if she is she is probably in the worst profession. Many who have mental illness ARE manipulative or selfish, so it's hard to tell whats what.
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A better profession could have not been created for it. I'd say 1/2 joking that the entertainment business (hollywood, music biz, etc.) was created for the exceptionally mentally ill.
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Submitted by KoolThing on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 5:00pm.
I don't know enough about her to say whether or not she is mentally ill, but if she is she is probably in the worst profession. Many who have mental illness ARE manipulative or selfish, so it's hard to tell whats what.
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A better profession could have not been created for it. I'd say 1/2 joking that the entertainment business (hollywood, music biz, etc.) was created for the exceptionally mentally ill.
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Submitted by putsomestankonit on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 5:12pm.
So many great artists have been bi-polar, and no I'm not saying Britney is a great artists. Vincent Van Goh, Edgar Allen Poe, Kurt Cobain, Jackson Pollack. They have inspired and enriched our world beyond belief.
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I have theories about that too. But it goes back to that psychic attack shit so I'll leave it:)
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Hi Keane - I also think that the medical industry does damage to people through their toxic medications - look at how the pharma companies even admit that anti-depressant drugs INCREASE the rate of suicide! It is not natural for people to ingest a bunch of synthetic chemicals that alter their brain chemistry. It's no different than taking a bunch of ecstasy! Plus people that have been on mood stabilizing drugs for years are developing cirrhosis of the liver. This stuff is toxic! I know there are many gifted psychologists, therapists, etc. in the mental health field, however, there is a big problem based on the fact that if people get well and get off drugs, well, where's the revenue stream going to come from? So unfortunately the field is corrupted by the fact that it is finanacially beneficial for the medical industry to keep people needing therapy and especially, keeping them on drugs. The FDA and the AMA are very corrupt and they protect pharmaceutical companies against lawsuits. Even when a pharma company is forced to admit that their drug is killing people, it still takes 5 years before the drug is pulled from the market! I'm not completely disagreeing with you, I'm just saying that this kind of corruption certainly interferes with a person getting well in many cases.
Submitted by angel_i on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 5:08pm.
LOL! And if she's mentally ill - then isn't it kinda rude to exploit her by making her a freak in her own circus? Or, like: ILLEGAL!?!
The answer I can give to this is this is the only life she knows. And a lot of entertainers and artists are known to be mentally ill.
So many great artists have been bi-polar, and no I'm not saying Britney is a great artists. Vincent Van Goh, Edgar Allen Poe, Kurt Cobain, Jackson Pollack. They have inspired and enriched our world beyond belief.
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I agree with both you guys... I think people are generally overmedicated, and I think someone with Britney's caliber of mental issues is not going to be "fixed" easily, or at all. But being drugged up and performing like a circus monkey is definitely NOT the way to go.
Great. Vadge and Britters in NYC again. Hasn't the city suffered enough?
Submitted by Sock-Monkey on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 4:50pm.
No face-to-face time, but the kids will be able to follow her tour on MTV and the Net. Oh, and in People.
LOL! And if she's mentally ill - then isn't it kinda rude to exploit her by making her a freak in her own circus? Or, like: ILLEGAL!?!
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Submitted by Keane on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 4:55pm.
I think the evidence to suggest she has a mental illness is fairly strong. It is frequently spoken about
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By who, tho? No one has officially ever said it. And people take medication for everything these days....so, instead of dealing - they can work. We even do it with the common cold! Really - your body is saying: Rest - I will fix this. And what do we do? We say NO! No rest! I don't care if you're fixing it! Fixing it hurts! And we put an end to it with medication.
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I don't care what anyone else says, I'm tired of this endless Britney bashing. No I'm not a Britneyloonie. I truly believe the girl is bi-polar and what she needs now is therapy to take her meds and find a healthy and stable realtionship with her children. Whom I truly believe she loves but isn't in a place to care for them now.
And to Kool Thing you're a jerk. Mental illness does not make you selfish, whiny or spoiled. Please read up on the subject before you speak of it.
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Keane,
You make a lot of sense, and I respect your knowledge of mental illness. But do me a favor, and go to Google images and plug in "Britney Spears Mental Illness". There you'll see dozens of magazine covers. You cannot dispute that there are the benefits of keeping her name out there, and eliciting sympathy, by her people putting that out there. A hell of a lot more sympathy than one would get for being extremely selfish and behaving badly.
Do you think that people with personality disorders like narcissism and histrionic behavior can cross over into madness? I think they can, because I watched it happen to my own father.
"This ain't rock n roll. This is genocide!"
@Keane: I have some very inflammatory theories about those kinds of things and you are totally make me want to share them. Alas, I just don't have the energy to defend them. I believe there are a good many emotional issues we could deal with if we could begin to get the right tools - unfortunately that would take generations of conditioning.
It sounds like you have been exposed to some ultra-serious situations, tho. And I do believe that SOMETIMES there's nothing to be done but deal....just not nearly as often as we think.
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Man, lay off of ZiggyStardust. He/She can say whatever they want. In fact, the way in which the comments were written were actually rather entertaining. So if you can say whatever you want so can ZiggyStardust.
I don't know enough about her to say whether or not she is mentally ill, but if she is she is probably in the worst profession. Many who have mental illness ARE manipulative or selfish, so it's hard to tell whats what. Either way, i just hope she's getting the help she needs.
Thanks for that KoolThing - I know that, I'm not fucking stupid! I have a lot of experience of people with mental illness. It was just a turn of phrase. Thanks for pulling me up on it though!
I think the evidence to suggest she has a mental illness is fairly strong. It is frequently spoken about and how she is on medication for it. She certainly looks drugged in the performances she's been giving lately and its fairly certain they're not illegal ones nowadays as Daddy Spears had the reins pulled pretty tight around her. Plus she was asessed and kept in a mental ward by psychiatrists during the height of her manic activity which is fairly good evidence to suggest there are problems there. Plus all the other circumstantial evidence: her lack of concern for her appearance, wearing crazy clothes, erratic behaviour etc etc. I'm not sure her people have any thing to gain from inventing a fictitious illness. A mentally ill Britney hardly does wonders for her brand does it? Not that I'm saying that Brit is in no way to blame for any of her actions either. I'm sure she's spoiled, selfish, manipulative and so on - what celebrities of her magnitude aren't? Its impossible to tell without knowing her how much of her bad behaviour is due to her personal shortcomings or her mental illness, but the fact that she has one I think is pretty obvious.
"The childhood friend of mine who now has bipolar has similarly had the illness for years and the professional dealing with her case says she may not get over it for years."
You can't "get over" a mental illness. You can manage it with therapy and medication, but you don't magically wake up one day and are suddenly no longer Bipolar or Schizophrenic.
Girl needs some vitamins. Her performances these days are so lethargic. I miss the precision of the "I'm a Slave 4 U".
Girl needs some vitamins. Her performances these days are so lethargic. I miss the precision of the "I'm a Slave 4 U".
Submitted by DAE on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 4:33pm.
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Holy Fuck! Rumour or not..No way can she get through that many concerts. To think she & her handlers would rather prove she's bankable than take a sabbatical & work at being a better mother and finally somewhat stable says...she really needs the money, spotlight and attention a lot more than her two children. I wonder if she managed to fit her visitations into that schedule?
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Submitted by DreamyAguileraEyes on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 4:33pm.
Thanks, DAE. Unfortunately, I won't be in any of those cities on those dates, with one exception: I will be in L.A. on April 16, but I figure I'll need time off after a massive creative effort on my tax forms due the prior day. Otherwise I'd go.
Submitted by angel_i on Sun, 11/30/2008 - 4:07pm.
I still don't believe she's mentally ill.
The furthest I would go is "traumatized". Which many of us can attest to, given we are being raised by traumatized people.
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"She doesn't really want out. She just wants it to be easy. "
Angel, you amaze me in your Brit analysis every time.
"But her ego won't have it."
This is why she's lip synching songs that have no base in reality, because they are written by a team of others and it sounds like she's singing them to herself about herself, with a few key word changes to throw it off a bit.
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sexytime - my experience of people with mental health issues is much the opposite unfortunately. A close family friend who I knew for 20 years developed manic depression about 10 years ago and was never the same person again. He tried every possible treatment and therapy out there (including things as extreme as electric shock therapy) but nothing helped him. His illness ended with his suicide. The childhood friend of mine who now has bipolar has similarly had the illness for years and the professional dealing with her case says she may not get over it for years. My best friend at school's brother was a drug-induced paranoid schizophrenic and even when on medication could not function as a normal person. I used to work in a field where I had a lot of dealings with people with mental illnesses and learnt a lot from the community psychiatric nurses I worked with. The conditions of the people I met through them were never easily remediable. My best friend and cousin are both clinical psychologists and work with people with severe mental illnesses and say these things are often so entrenched from years of bad childhood experiences that they cannot be unpicked and "solved" as it were. People with milder forms of mental illnesses may have a shot, but my general experience and knowledge of it is that at present there are very few "cures" for mental illness. There's still a huge amount of research needed to improve services and treatment options for the mentally ill.
Rumored tour dates for Brit's 2009 USA tour
March 3 New Orleans Arena New Orleans LA
March 5 Phillips Arena Atlanta GA
March 7 American Airlines Arena Miami FL
March 8 St. Pete Times Forum Tampa FL
March 11 Nassau Coliseum Uniondale NY
March 13 Prudential Center Newark NJ
March 16 TD Banknorth Garden Boston MA
March 18 Air Canada Centre Toronto ON
March 20 Bell Centre Montreal Qu
March 24 Verizon Center Washington DC
March 26 Mohegan Sun Uncasville CT
March 27 Mellon Arena Pittsburgh PA
March 30 Toyota Center Houston TX
March 31 American Airlines Ctr Dallas TX
April 2 Sprint Center Kansas City MO
April 3 Target Center Minneapolis MN
April 6 Rexall Place Edmonton AL
April 8 GM Place Vancouver BC
April 9 Tacomadome Tacoma WA
April 11 Arco Arena Sacramento CA
April 12 HP Pavilion San Jose CA
April 14 EnergySolutions Arena Salt Lake City UT
April 16 STAPLES Center Los Angeles CA
April 19 Honda Center Anaheim CA
April 24 Jobing.com Arena Phoenix AZ
April 25 MGM Grand Garden Las Vegas NV
April 28 Allstate Arena Chicago IL
rumored opening act - The Pussycat Dolls
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