This Is Crazy

Submitted by Hysteria on Thu, 01/15/2009 - 6:30pm.
Submitted by Candy on Thu, 01/15/2009 - 6:15pm.
I don't understand what the problem is with thanking God for lives being saved.

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there's no problem thanking god unless you are forced to, against your own beliefs
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@ Crikey
My twin sister C. said the same thing after she was in a plane crash. She asked God to guide the pilot and crew, then saved herself. Not at all like the steerage passengers who got lost trying to get to the upper decks of the Titanic, or were trapped behind locked gates, gave up and prayed until they drowned. White Star was owned by IMM, IMM was owned by JP Morgan, and US immigration law required that steerage passengers be kept as far from First Class as possible.
Love the story about the Chief Baker-spent the whole night drinking. He went down with the ship and dogpaddled off without getting his head wet.

Perhaps the New york Game and Fish Department can lengthen the hunting season for geese, or increase the bag limit? Good eating!

Submitted by joan cusack on Fri, 01/16/2009 - 4:34pm.
I read some people didn't even get wet. Amazing!!
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I heard on the Today show this morning that this particular Airbus has a fuselage that is air tight. So none of the "sparkling clean" Hudson River made it into the airplane. Gotta love dem engineers.

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I read some people didn't even get wet. Amazing!!

jiggywiddit> Um. No? I can comment however the hell I want to comment. Thanks!

I read something on how to survive a crash. It said that many people might survive the crash, but die in the ensuing fire, suffocate, or drown. It said to know your exit options by heart or even by feel, get moving the second the plane stops, and stay low where the air is better. It also said--confirming why I'm bound to die in any crash--to avoid alcohol, so you're clear-headed.

Some of you should read the book "When Bad Things Happen to Good People." You can read a summary here: http://www.gurus.org/dougdeb/Courses/bestsellers/Kushner/BTmain.htm

The short answer to your question is that God doesn't interfere in the natural order of things. And he leaves us room to be human. Bad things happen. He doesn't send earthquakes or plane crashes to punish people. Those things just happen. But he is there to give you strength to carry on when those bad things happen.

So, yes, you can thank God for what happened yesterday. He likely gave the pilot, the crew and the rescuers the strength to do what their training taught them to do and to get everyone out alive.

THANK GOD those people all survived! THANK GOD for that pilot. THANK GOD the ferries were there in a moments notice. THANK GOD it didn't happen at night because there may have been more chaos in the dark. THANK GOD the plane remained in one piece. THANK GOD for showing us a miracle. THANK GOD NOT ALL PEOPLE ARE BORN AS IGNORANT AND USELESS AS SOME OF THE BLOGGERS ON THIS THREAD!!!!!!!!

Whenever crises subsides, first words outta my mouth are 'Thank God'. Unfortunately in these times, it's become cliche, only a saying, nothing more. Many times after disaster or other traumatic crises, people will say they felt 'guided' through.

The brain has many channels to tune into. One of the most tuned in channel is self preservation.

It is my belief that through focussed action one can tune into the 'Divine' or whatever you want to call 'It' ((God, Goddess, Self, Other). Many times after drama subsides, I can pinpoint a voice in my heart that reassured me. This 'Voice' is very different than hearing chatter in your head. It is defined, assured, and without question.

This pilot was trained and on the mark. Give credit where credit is due. Though I am sure he is thanking God at this moment too.

All I can think of is that the damn water was short of freezing yesterday. I bet a majority of those hicks on that plane developed a cold. I bet it's better than dying.
My mom always says"when it's your time to go, it's your time to go".

We are upset that thousands of little citizens(birds) are murdered by planes every year.

Hey TvKatie-

Very glad about your brother.The pilot, crew, ferry boat captains, and Coast Guard deserve a ticker tape parade or something. What is more thrilling to the people of NYC -the almost miraculous emergency landing/rescue or the sheer relief that Dubya is finally going?

Best wishes to your family.

Elizabeth Smart's parents said they were blessed by God. This declarative statement can stand alone. To decide that it meant that other parents of missing children were not blessed is an example of inferential reasoning.

haha, I love it. Just because there is no definite answer as to what caused the big bang doesn't guarantee god created it lol.

Early times, everyone was convinced god created the planet, everyone on it, adam and eve and all that fantasy stuff. Then every step that science proved wrong, there is always some bible guy throwing god in there somewhere. Oh well maybe dinosaurs did exist, but god created them! They chilled out with adam and eve in the garden.

Thank God people made it through this. It was His will. God works always in the best ways and sometimes He calls someone to take a dirt nap, and sometimes not. It is a very deep and aged olded question: If the big bang occured from atoms and molecules and whatnot, where did the particles come from? Did they materialize on there own? No. Somebody created it. Somebody who is beyond the comprehension of science. There is simply no other explanation to the existence of the earth, mankind and even the entire univerise. Things do not materialize on their own. It is proven to be against the fundemental and proven laws of physics. Something had to have created it, and that something is something people have been trying to figure out for upteen years.

I can't quit you babe, so I guess I got to put you down for a while--Led Zeppelin

fuckin rogue geese...always trinna fuck up someones day

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This is disturbing. There are a ton of people standing on the wing. What if they were in the middle of the ocean? Are you telling me they'd have to wait until there was room in that one raft? Why they hell isn't there a raft for them? Every one from first class gets a raft and economy is standing on the wing? Hmmmm. Seems a little shady. Didn't know those Titanic rules were still in effect.

The pilots were sweet ice cold! You have to be to land that so smooth.

Good thing the engines were mounted on the wings; if they'd been mounted on the tail, the plane would have quickly sunk aft, like a ton 'o bricks.

Dayum! It's getting crowded up there.

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Thank goodness everyone was able to make it through this. The Hudson is super chilly today. Appears that they must of flown over my neighborhood after taking off and were coasting.

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Submitted by Pennyroyal on Thu, 01/15/2009 - 10:59pm.
What the hell do those birds think they are doing flying in the sky??? How dare they!

Indeed...put anything next to the water and birds will be there!!! DUH........... otherwise, it's just a fucking miracle everyone is alive and they owe there sweet asses to that pilot! Give that man the medal of something!!!

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It sounds like I'll need to be drunk, stoned and suffering from a minor concussion to deal with this fuckery. MK - 11/24/2008

Submitted by Charles Manson on Thu, 01/15/2009 - 10:24pm.
IM NOT A FISH EATER
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Mrs. Cholly begs to differ.

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"DAAAAAM!!! THIS IS SOME BENJAMIN BUTTON'S SHIT" *in honor of our beloved Lolo's return*

What the hell do those birds think they are doing flying in the sky??? How dare they!

nytimes.com has amazing photos of this. Includes a timeline showing two blocks from my place in Inwood where the pilots were, literally, lights out.

You are not kidding about the shit and the geese. This entire neighborhood is parks, parks, and more parks. Those mofo Canada Geese lay there enormous turds all over. They hang out here for months. The don't find it satisfying to lay bird splats. They are competing with the dogs in the hood for the largest turd trophy. And because there are so many parks, everyone has at least one dog. Unlike my proud gay man dog who is always watching his figure and his manners, the other dogs in the nabe eat that geese shit like it was the last cheeto to grace this earth. I am the only one around here not cursing those Canada Geese. But now they have riled my ire. Even without a hint of green around my handsome dog's snout, fu Canada Geese!

Submitted by stevebeans on Thu, 01/15/2009 - 10:34pm
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Thank you, stevebeans. When Elizabeth Smart was found, her father said that "God blessed their family"...I thought that was insulting to everyone who had lost a child and was therefore not worthy of being "blessed" by God.

I feel humbled when in the presence of true human heroism and greatness, like the pilot who acted bravely and skillfully today.

Sorry about your dad. I agree, it's crazy how God tends to sleep on those bad situations but he's all over the good ones.

Why is it when a bad person has bad things happen to him, it's god punishing him. Yet, when a good person has bad things happen, it's just gods "plan"?

Submitted by LoLo on Thu, 01/15/2009 - 10:03pm.
WELL SHIT I ALWAS FIGURED MANSON WAS RAISED A CATHOLIC BUT I NEVER THOUGHT TO GOOGLE THAT CAUSE IM A DUMB FUCK

IM NOT A FISH EATER I AM AN EPISCOPAL. BUT I WOULD LOVE TO GET MY HANDS ON THOSE FUCKING YOUNG HOT AS HELL NUNS I SAW IN THE MOTHERFUCKING GROCERY STORE THE OTHER DAY BUYING A SHIT LOAD OF RED WINE FOR THEIR CONVENT COMMUNIONS.

I don't thank God because I don't believe in God. But I do thank the pilot, the firefighters, the ferry captains, the police officers, the crew of the plane and anyone else who had a hand in saving those lives.

I have a hard time when people say things like "God saved them." Where was God when my dad died? Where was God when Caylee Anthony's mother murdered her? Where was God during Katrina? Were not those people as worthy of being saved?

"Submitted by Candy on Thu, 01/15/2009 - 6:15pm.

I don't understand what the problem is with thanking God for lives being saved."

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Because "God" had nothing to do with this. When you thank something that has no proof of even existing whenever people do good things, you minimize the accomplishments of those who actually had something to do with the situation.

If I see a firefighter risk his life to save a kid from a burning building, I don't walk up to him and thank god. I thank him! He's the hero.

I think it's time for bible thumpers to start playing fair. Every time they credit god for the good stuff, I want to hear them blame him for the disasters. And none of that 'this is all part of his plan' fake blame. Let's hear some real blame!

IM FUCKING HERE TIGER. I WAS DOWNSTAIRS MIXING ANOTHER FUCKING DRINK.

Submitted by moonmaid on Thu, 01/15/2009 - 9:06pm.
Great story - my little bro is a pilot and these guys are amazingly cool, just never phased.

But looking at that pic, I'd say there's a bit of a class warfare thing going on - 1st class is high and dry in a raft at the front, while the unfortunates in steerage are bunched up on the wing, standing in water.

...lol, y'all really don't pay any attention on the plane, do ya? there are doors over the wings and doors in front of first class (and the really big planes have doors at the back. the people on the wing walked out the wing doors. the people up front walked out the front doors. mystery solved.

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It's been too long...we miss you.

After a flight like that I'd kiss the ground, germs, cig butts, dried bubblegum and all.

WELL SHIT I ALWAS FIGURED MANSON WAS RAISED A CATHOLIC BUT I NEVER THOUGHT TO GOOGLE THAT CAUSE IM A DUMB FUCK!

LMAO! Jim?

No siggie! I smoked it!

I'm seriously overjoyed that the all survived!
I saaw footage of this one woman on a stretcher with the biggest smile on her face and she was saying, " THIS IS THE BEST DA OF MY LIFE! WE MADE IT!"

I have never seen such a brite smile before. Amazing!

No siggie! I smoked it!

Submitted by Charles Manson on Thu, 01/15/2009 - 9:49pm.
PRAISE THE LORD. PRAISE GOD IN THE HIGHEST. THE MAKER OF HEAVEN AND EARTH. SUFFERED UNDER PONTIUS PILATE. CRUCIFIED DEAD AND BURIED. THE THRID DAY HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD AND ASCENDED INTO HEAVEN WHERE HE STILL WATCHES OVER HIS FLOCK.
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Oh Cholly, stop talkin' that nonsense and have you a PURPLE DRANK...I made it e'special for ya... Reverend Jim's recipe with just enough Shitney thrown in...You like?....*hearts and flowers shooting out of tiger eyes...*...Ahhhh, my Cholly....*swoon*...
Cholly? Cholly? SOMEONE CALL 911! MY CHOLLY IS UNRESPONSIVE....

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Sorry, Roger, you are tiger now...

After all the bad news we've gotten lately, it was like euphoria that something extraordinary and positive (as much as a plane crash can be) happened today.

Submitted by jiggywiddit on Thu, 01/15/2009 - 9:48pm.
Attention Hardcore DListers: LoLo is home!
Bear Grylls thread.

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DListed DJ: Yo, Yo, special shout out to m' lady LoLo...Where you at, princess? Lookin' fiiiine...mmm'mmm...shake it, shake it...

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Sorry, Roger, you are tiger now...

PRAISE THE LORD. PRAISE GOD IN THE HIGHEST. THE MAKER OF HEAVEN AND EARTH. SUFFERED UNDER PONTIUS PILATE. CRUCIFIED DEAD AND BURIED. THE THRID DAY HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD AND ASCENDED INTO HEAVEN WHERE HE STILL WATCHES OVER HIS FLOCK.

Attention Hardcore DListers: LoLo is home!
Bear Grylls thread.

Open bar!!

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"run the other way like you've got an Energizer battery in your ass"--MK, words of wisdom

WHOA. Great post, MK. The pilot should be the Hot Genius Slut of the year,the Richenbacher Slut, the Ace Slut...My better half just reminded me that the pilot didn't have time to jettison fuel. Dude has AMAZING skills. This could have been a disaster. As it is, anyone who was in New York on 9/11 might have nightmares tonight.

TVKatie, I'm glad your brother is safe. My twin sister C. was on a wonky 767 in August 1987.She REFUSES to fear anything;it's not false bravado-the bitch has an almost reptillian coldness.The friend she travelled with later told me that the pilot practically flew backwards trying to dislodge stuck landing gear,then dumped fuel and crashed landed.One wing caught fire.One of the emergency slides malfunctioned too! C. jumped off of it,rushed away from the plane.....and got on another 7 hours later.Give your bro a hug and a bottle of Bombay Sapphire-he's earned it.
P.(friend)also told me C. never panicked,cried, screamed etc on that day.P had one long crying jag, then nightmares.C had nightmares later because she went around a woman with a terrified child.Cold.....

This may sound silly.When we fly together,it's like it couldn't happen again.Alone, i remember everything she told me to survive.

I hope that pilot gets an award or something.

Submitted by DeeDee on Thu, 01/15/2009 - 8:19pm.

Great video DeeDee, and that was only one bird/geese. I know that by Laguardia airport there are large numders of geese and can easily take out one or both engines. I can only laugh about this whole situation because everyone survived due to the experience of the pilot and the flight crew...everyone was very lucky.

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Submitted by moonmaid on Thu, 01/15/2009 - 9:06pm.
I'd say there's a bit of a class warfare thing going on - 1st class is high and dry in a raft at the front, while the unfortunates in steerage are bunched up on the wing, standing in water.

haha. Maybe. I bet the dudes in First insisted on getting out first, too.

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A former U.S. Air Force (USAF) fighter pilot, he has served as an instructor and Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA) safety chairman, accident investigator and national technical committee member.
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"Submitted by TVKATIE on Thu, 01/15/2009 - 6:26pm.

There is certainly no problem with thanking God, or whomever you'd like that everyone got out safe.

My brother was on that flight, stood on the wing, ferried to safety.

What an incredible pilot."

tvkatie, so glad to hear your good news. i agree that the pilot was amazing. I just heard that he was a trained glider instructor, and also has been flying for 29 years. Lucky for all those aboard that he was the pilot today.

Great story - my little bro is a pilot and these guys are amazingly cool, just never phased.

But looking at that pic, I'd say there's a bit of a class warfare thing going on - 1st class is high and dry in a raft at the front, while the unfortunates in steerage are bunched up on the wing, standing in water.

All I know is that Mr.Sullenberger is a hero. I just saw his picture and all I could feel was elation that these people have their lives because of his skill and calmness. Kudos to him
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My grandfather would have loved that this pilot was former Air Force. My grandpa was a two star Major General in the Air Force. Any time you asked him how he or the Air Force did anything, his reply was always, "Skill, cunning, and dexterity." He always said it in such a smartass, smug way, but it definitely applies here.

P.S. Love that this story overshadowed all news of Bush's farewell speech.

I think I would have tried to kill myself rather than let that water touch me.. It's so fucking cold...OMG I'm just thinking about that water.. I drove along the Hudson River this morning and there were ice chunks in that bitch...

Thank God all is well!!!

Submitted by Anonymouse73 on Thu, 01/15/2009 - 8:11pm.

We've put the god stuff to bed. Go to Open Post please.

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LOL Mani!

I found a Youtube video of a 757 in Europe that experienced a bird strike on takeoff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KhZwsYtNDE&eurl

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