And The Story Gets Stranger....

i know about the gosselins because i started to do research after watching their messed up reality show. something about kate seemed "off" she came across as a lying manipulative biatch. there are many artices frim the Reading Eagle -their hometown paper, plus many anti kate websites, plus info from their book and website. they are total scammers. the now make millions but go to churches and beg for "love offerings" to pay for braces and future weddings ect. people with way less money than them fall for their poor me story and give their hard earned dolloars to support the scam. its sad. now a days if u are lazy and want to get rich and famous, take clomid or inject 8 embryos into ur magic uterus and wait for TLC and the news to start offering money for your "story"

....when she went to the doctor she asked for implants, Dr. Cleetus Fetus had taken a few too many hits off the laughing gas tank and got confused as to what kind of implants she was looking for...
or-
what is she going to name the babies? any ideas?
I like Cleetus Junior. She could be like the wife of George Foreman who named all of their something like nine kids, no matter the gender, George.
all of his kids are named George.

there just has to be some kind of diabolical bent to this story.

this is way out of Cuckooville, and has no rooting in actual facts, it's just a what if.....like the ole fashiones create your own ending story books from middle school....

what if some freaky Arab dude with more money than brain cells was behind the whole thing.
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the doctor is also the sperm donor...one of those freaky teaky doctors that secretly uses his own sperm and it is later discovered that 89% of all the children concieved in his clinic are genetically related to doctor pervert.
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shit.

Submitted by lady_marmalade on Tue, 02/03/2009 - 12:16am.
"The mother of the longest-living octuplets in the U.S.

I guess some big corporate sponsors--some of whom are being bailed out by the feds--are giving her major gifts, too.

I think it's interesting that, even though they're preemies, they're already the "longest-living." That shows how unnatural such multiple births are.

Check this fuckery out:

"The mother of the longest-living octuplets in the U.S. is being deluged with offers for book deals, TV shows and other business proposals, but has not decided what she might do other than care for her children, her newly hired spokeswoman said Monday."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090202/ap_on_re_us/octuplets_4

Ok....so child services would not get involved unless there was a threat to the welbeing of her children?!?! so its ok to spit out babies like shelling peas!! when you are living in your parents THREE bedroomed apartment (where the fuck do they all sleep)........so what they are saying is its ok to punt out kids when you have no home, no job no husband ect ect........WOW thats a great msg to send out!!!! what abt the well being of the grandmother? read somewhere she was so fucked up by this shit she had to go see a shrink!!!! WTF.........that bitch needs her womb ripping out with a rusty surgeons knife

interesting news, i like it

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Submitted by Noelegy on Sun, 02/01/2009 - 6:32pm.
The gut reaction I had to this story was that they don't HAVE to have litters anymore. The technology has advanced to the point that the fertilized eggs are matured in the lab a couple of days more so that they don't have to implant multiple embryos. Gone are the days of the McCaughey septuplets, nowadays it's much more common to have twins, because they pick the two strongest and most viable blastocysts.

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You are so right, Noelegy. I know because I currently have 9 embryos developing in a clinic in London. We're going to blastocyst stage and will have the 2 strongest implanted on Thursday. The other 7 will be frozen. No way in HELL would I ever contemplate more than 2, nor would the clinic do it. In fact, they told us on the first consult that 2 is the limit for my age group. I think that older women can have 3 but thats the limit. Its sad that such wonderful medical technology is being abused this way.

Submitted by A Noun is a per... on Sun, 02/01/2009 - 1:03pm.

Jinger is rumored to not be JimBob's kid, this has been swriling around for quite some time.Yes, it's still "Seventeen and Counting", maybe she is going to live with her real Dad.

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Who was that guy last night,he left the seat up damn!

Hmmm....that story of the neighbor or whoever saying that the "mother" said she was getting paid for it - when my brother was in college he knew a girl who got $6000 for selling one of her eggs.

I wonder if she did something like that, besides cooking a bunch of her own.

Asshole...

This sounds like a variant of the crazy cat lady.

Submitted by chefcammi on Sun, 02/01/2009 - 1:08pm.

And who ever does a fluff piece on her and her family I will BOYCOT the hell out of.

Cosign x 1000

Submitted by Noelegy on Sun, 02/01/2009 - 6:32pm.
The gut reaction I had to this story was that they don't HAVE to have litters anymore. The technology has advanced to the point that the fertilized eggs are matured in the lab a couple of days more so that they don't have to implant multiple embryos. Gone are the days of the McCaughey septuplets, nowadays it's much more common to have twins, because they pick the two strongest and most viable blastocysts.
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The McCaughey septuplets weren't the result of IVF. She took Clomid to ovulate and went into hyerovulation. Even that can be avoided nowadays.

In anycase, you are correct: humans weren't meant to have litters!

I read at The Daily Mail website that only 1 naturally occuring case of octuplets was ever reported-it was in Mexico in the 1930s and the mother miscarried. The odds of such in nature are A TRILLION TO ONE! There's a reason why they don't occur naturally!

The gut reaction I had to this story was that they don't HAVE to have litters anymore. The technology has advanced to the point that the fertilized eggs are matured in the lab a couple of days more so that they don't have to implant multiple embryos. Gone are the days of the McCaughey septuplets, nowadays it's much more common to have twins, because they pick the two strongest and most viable blastocysts.

They did this for notoriety, plain and simple.

So many things about this story disgust me and make me kind of want to cry as well. The American culture is all kinds of messed up when it comes to having babies; it is actually less expensive to have IVF than it is to adopt an infant. Adoption has turned into nothing less than a system of buying babies, a far cry from what it was when I was adopted.

This is a story that never should have happened.

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Did I dream this belief or did I believe this dream?
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Submitted by Stoney on Sun, 02/01/2009 - 3:20am.
I NEED TO SEE HER PICTURE.

Maybe try one of those Classmates sites for the Whittier area? If she's 33 now, she may have graduated from HS in about 1993-94? I'm surprised her friends, neighbors, or relies haven't sold some pix.

I had a nightmare that the Mother and her babies were on Oprah. *Shudders*

Submitted by natasha240 on Sun, 02/01/2009 - 3:10am.

Bullshit, they are still irresponsible. Doing IVF on a woman who already has 6 kids is irresponsible. Doing IVF on a woman with obvious mental problems and 6 children is irresponsible. Doing IVF on an unemployed, obviously mental woman with 6 kids is irresponsible. Doing IVF on a woman who lives with her parents, etc.....see where I am going with this?
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agreed. i was hoping that, at the very least, they weren't TRYING to knock her up with eight; kind of a 'glass eighth full' point of view.

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she's probably half-wit / she must be straight
bound to have a mother who knows nothing but hate

erinlee- how do you know all this about the Gosselins?

This woman in CA is psycho and whoever agreed to fertilize her with ANY more kids, when she's a single mother with 6 already, is nothing short of a criminal. Stupid me thought they'd actually check the background on people before shooting them up. You know, employ some standards.

Although I have a bone to pick with the people saying that parents of autistic kids shouldn't have more. That's not fair at all. My sister has an autistic son, and is currently pregnant with twins with the help of IVF. I would never tell her she should NOT have more kids because of my nephew.

The California Medical Board, which investigates doctors, and the California Department of Public Health, which licenses clinics and hospitals, said no doctors or facilities are currently being investigated regarding the births. It is also unlikely that the Los Angeles County Department of Children and Family Services would get involved unless it receives a complaint of child abuse or neglect.

Huh? Why the fuck NOT? So it's not malpractice if the patient doesn't complain?

chefcammi: Yup. The fertility clinic is the key here. Either she was getting free IVF & drugs from someone there and stealing embryos or she is part of some illegal experiment. There is NO WAY she could have afforded seven rounds of IVF, the drugs and 6 years of embryo storage, not to mention every other expense I haven't even thought of. It's impossible.

I have questions about any of her IVFs after the first THREE. The last round was definitely not legit.

There is a LOT of fuckery going on here.

Here's an update with a few new details from the LA Times:
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-octuplets31-2009jan31,0,6246659....

thanks, hekki!

in thelast thread some were wondering about the maternal clock and the urge to have another baby. I dont think it's an urge to get pregnant or to BE pregnant (well, maybe a little for the feeling of having a complete and seperate life form wriggling around in your belly- neat as shit!) but it's something else.. I cant put my finger on it. I'm telling you- we were good @ 2 and alost 2 years later my husband said he could have one more and instantly my mind shifted into baby mode. Removed the IUD and within that month I was pregnant with this one.

Kinda strange this "lady" worked @ a fertility clinic, huh? All of her kids are IVF? HHhhmm... makes me question the clinic she worked at.. were they missing anything? I hope the american public slams this lady and all who participated in her becoming pregnant- with ALL of her children.

And who ever does a fluff piece on her and her family I will BOYCOT the hell out of.

Ok, I'm gonna totally pitch this to TLC:

The Duggars ADOPT this chick and her children.

Now that OfJimBob is whining that #18 might be her last issue, the oldest boy is out of the house with his MamaClone, and Jinger's gonna make a break for it any day, they'll need a new twist.

Submitted by nicaw on Sun, 02/01/2009 - 12:12pm.
Like a number of posts, I would like to know how she has afforded IVF. My understanding is it costs $30K.
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No kiddin'. That's per cycle. Many people do not conceive on their first or second try.

I think that she was either getting the money from her parents or she found some whacko doctor and had a deal with him or her. Something doesn't add up here. . .

Like a number of posts, I would like to know how she has afforded IVF. My understanding is it costs $30K.

I do believe children are a blessing but it's important that parents provide a stable home for the children. In my opinion, something just doesn't see right with this woman.

I thought the Duggar family was odd but after this story, I see the Duggars in a new light. It is a two parent household, they are self-sufficient, and they are raising their children with morals and values.

It's not that she had a baby or eight. But after hearing she had 6 already, I wonder what her thought process could be. Why another one when you are a single mother?

Submitted by Hekki on Sun, 02/01/2009 - 8:43am.
I'm extreeeeemely skeptical of this story about the drugs causing 2-3 embryos to multiply to EIGHT in her uterus AFTER transfer.

If there really IS a risk of this happening, wouldn't the doctors look at her history and say "This woman has been on fertility drugs for six years. There's a chance all these drugs will result in more embryos than we transferred. Let's only give her one."

Still doesn't make sense.
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I don't believe it either. It can happen but it is very, very rare.

Well, if she claims this is the case then there is an easy way to prove it: Carry on a DNA test on the kids. The ones who multiplied would have the same DNA just like identical twins.

What a selfish CUNT!!! even her mother had to seek the help of a psychologist.........i say give those kiddies to couples that would REALLY want them......fuck her, let her rot in the gutter where she belongs

Gross. Human beings should not have litters of kids.

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Submitted by chefcammi: "I'd rather listen to Howard Stern interview this broad than Oprah. At least you know Stern will ask her the questions what we all want to know the answers to."

YEAH! I'd PAY to see/hear that. This fuckery makes me want to fly out there and play investigative reporter. There is WAY more to this story than the lazy American media is reporting. The Sun has consistently dug up better details and sniffed out more scandal than the American stuff. We need a hard-hitter to dig deeeeeep.

(OT: And congrats on your third, chefcammi!)

How did she pay for it? She said she was paid for it -- whether that mean welfare or what, I don't know.

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Yolanda Garcia, 49, of Whittier, said she helped care for Nadya Suleman's autistic son three years ago.

"From what I could tell back then, she was pretty happy with herself, saying she liked having kids and she wanted 12 kids in all," Garcia told the Long Beach Press-Telegram.

"She told me that all of her kids were through in vitro, and I said 'Gosh, how can you afford that and go to school at the same time?'" she added. "And she said it's because she got paid for it."

Garcia said she did not ask for details.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/31/nadya-suleman-octuplets-m_n_162...

SELFISH!

I don't understand. How is it that anyone with 6 kids would be given IVF?It's not like she has fertility problems is it? In the UK I would not be allowed it on the NHS as I have 2 kids, maybe private, I don't know. Where did the money come from? In the US I thought you had to pay for medical treatment unless it was life or death and surely no insurer would pay? Surely even if she had a ton of money they would query the wisdom of giving it to someone with 6 kids? Please, my head hurts, someone explain. Thank you.

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I have had a perfectly wonderful evening, but this wasn’t it. (Groucho Marx)

I'd rather listen to Howard Stern interview this broad than Oprah. At least you know Stern will ask her the questions what we all want to know the answers to.

..or better yet a Dlisted press conference where she has to answer all of our questions on TV.

I'd take puppies over babies too. At least they won't grow up to be losers.

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I think babies are annoying. I want 14 puppies.

Submitted by Ducky23 on Sun, 02/01/2009 - 9:27am.

How could she afford IVF? What she has done was extremely selfish. I'm sure she does love children and the check that comes along with each one.

That was my question too!

Is there an article on how she was able to afford this procedure that costs thousands of dollars?
If she was so obsessed with babies then why couldn't she have opted for the reborn Baby doll
www.reborn-baby.com, for those unfortunate women, or men who cannot have or for those would not thankfully be allowed to adopt a real baby. The kids are hear though, nothing can change that, I just pray that they are all healthy, and that they all find good home and she is immediately spayed so that this could never happen again.

"It must have been hard on your mother, not having any children"

That was going to be MY question: How does she afford IVF treatments? And check or no check, who in their right mind would want to attempt to raise that many children without a significant other -? Every time I see that Kate Gosselin or hear her voice, it's like biting on tin foil for me. And poor, poor Jon. He looks SO shot out. I wouldn't want that life.

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"The little pink plus sign is so unholy."

How could she afford IVF? What she has done was extremely selfish. I'm sure she does love children and the check that comes along with each one.

"she is obsessed with children." Sounds like a nutter to me, just the sort to make an ideal mother. Poor kids.

"No matter how cynical you become, it's impossible to keep up." - Lily Tomlin

I'm extreeeeemely skeptical of this story about the drugs causing 2-3 embryos to multiply to EIGHT in her uterus AFTER transfer.

If there really IS a risk of this happening, wouldn't the doctors look at her history and say "This woman has been on fertility drugs for six years. There's a chance all these drugs will result in more embryos than we transferred. Let's only give her one."

Still doesn't make sense.

Submitted by mcnightmare: "yahoo! news/AP are saying that doctors did not implant eight embryos - they implanted "far fewer" and they multiplied, because of the fertility drugs she was taking."

Huh? So they implanted ONLY two or three, and they just magically multiplied exponentially into EIGHT?

I'm going to do some reading up on this phenomenon. I had no idea...

I'm still reeling over this woman's actions. It's freeloader bitches like her that have sunk my home state of California, plain and simple. There's no way the shady grandparents are going to pay for all 14 of these kids. Cha-ching, cha-ching, I am certain that Nadya Suleman will be first in line at the welfare office, if she already hasn't signed up. It's so easy to have a ton of kids (or even one) when you don't have to pay for them.

Off topic but related: Even my gardener was in full on panic mode when he and his wife had their 2nd child. All he kept saying was how expensive kids are and how worried he is. That's when I knew: the man pays taxes.

Submitted by Mel on Sun, 02/01/2009 - 3:37am.
Kate Gosselin is a neurotic OCD freaking narcissist.

Look at this interview she did about the Octuplets.

Do her kids look happy to you?
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Why would they be happy? They're the modern day version of the Dionne quintuplets. Is there ever a time when Kate Gosselin doesn't sound like a bitch?

oooo psychotrash, that's a good one.

THINGS TELL ME YOU AND ME CAN BE FUCKING REALLY GOOD GODDAMN FRIENDS.

Whoops, sorry I misspelled that. But it's a great word.

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PYCHOTRASH! Thank you for the new word! I love it.

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Submitted by natasha240 on Sun, 02/01/2009 - 2:49am.

Someone posted that she's seeking $2 million in interviews with Oprah and Diane Sawyer and already collecting donations from the goddamn stupid fucking public.

Please tell me NO ONE is giving this psychotrash money. Please tell me that.

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This woman needs to undergo some emergency, mandatory psychiactric evaluation, stat. If the public feels like throwing their fucking cash at this crazy ho, the donations should be going to her goddamn shrnks and psych med scripts. Because bitch is absolutely mental.

I mean -Addicted to having babies? Seriously?? Who the fuck - I mean, what's wrong with all the other cool, acceptable, one-victim-only standard addictions? She couldn't get into heroin or crack or something? Or, or do a Duchovny and be all addicted to sex - with condoms and the Pill of course - but I mean, who the fuck gets addicted to popping puppies like that?

And what kind of clinic and doctors are those fucking people who kept planting embryos in Miss Fuckin Whackjob's already over-extended womb? Those doctors seriously need their medical licenses to practice taken the fuck away from them. Sick fucks.

Unbefuckinglieveable.
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"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should just relax and get used to the idea." ~ Robert A. Heinlein

Those poor kids. Now the mommy will be on every talk show asking for handouts. Her kids will become her meal ticket.

Guess the government will pick up the tab for raising 14 kids with no father.

The mother is one crazy chick.

Kate Gosselin is a neurotic OCD freaking narcissist.

Look at this interview she did about the Octuplets.

Do her kids look happy to you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35hg1c7jYHM