David Carradine's Manager Thinks His Death Was Foul Play
David Carradine was found dead in his Bangkok hotel room yesterday morning and it was assumed by the media that he committed suicide. But now Thai police believe that his death was accidental, because he was found with a yellow nylon rope tied around his neck and genitals. Flashes of Michael Hutchence dance around me....
They have conducted an autopsy today, but results won't be released for at least three weeks.
Meanwhile, David's manager and family members are speaking to the press. David's manager, Chuck Binder, doesn't think he took his own life and he also doesn't believe his death was an accident. Chuck is crying foul play! Chuck told TMZ that David's hands were tied behind his back.
Chuck added that they believe something in the milk ain't clean, because the hotel has been taking their sweet time with turning evidence over to the police. The police requested to see surveillance videos of the hallways and lobby, but the hotel hasn't coughed up 'em yet. And the investigation continues....
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why cant it be autoerotic ass-fix-she-ay-shun (cant spell it)? does everything always have to be fould play? maybe he was into that shit and "when in Thailand" you know?
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Here's as link to the supposed death photo:
http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_212235760.shtml
That looks to me like a staged photo with a young boy. The body doesn't look like that of a 72 year old man.
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This is EXACTLY why I am leery about travelling to Thailand.
With my luck, I'd get there and end up beaten within an heart beat of death, tortured beyond recognition, anally ravaged, and then served in a nice indigenous dish on the corner near some seedy section of town!
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look...I thought so at first but now that the details are out it's evident the hooker just couldn't hoist him up out of the noose after he passed out
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Most likely, he paid a pro to tie him up then he had a heart attack or something happened. He died and they fled.
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Submitted by MizRo on Fri, 06/05/2009 - 6:23pm.
Thailand is NAMBLA paradise; ANY kind of perversion goes there, ANY.
I can't even imagine... Don't want to, frankly.
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Submitted by leica on Fri, 06/05/2009 - 3:09pm.
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If it was a murder, then I doubt the authorities would not have had him found the way that he was.
I am of the opinion it was an accident due to autoerotic asphyxiation. The practice is far more common that a lot of people realise. Given the allegations by the ex-wife, it seems very possible.
Also, who would murder him?
I've been wondering about this whole autoerotic asphyxiation thing. Who knows if that's what happened here, but I don't get it AT ALL. I found this on Wiki...
"Estimates of the mortality rate range of autoerotic asphyxia between 250 to 1000 deaths per year in the United States."
Who knew?
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Thailand is NAMBLA paradise; ANY kind of perversion goes there, ANY.
I can't even imagine... Don't want to, frankly.
Hate to speak ill of the dead but, according to his divorce papers he had kinky sex habits AND bad credit
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0605092carradine1.html
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Autoerotic play, hookers and Hutchence. My exact thoughts when I heard he was dead in a closet. The HOtel doesn't want the hookers seen on the footage. Bad for business. Shit, and it was Thailand, for God's sack, or lack of.
Blame Yellow Book for this, he must have typed in "How do I find sexual enlightenment while in Bangkok?" Yellow Book replied "auto-erotic asphyxiation" plus Yellow Book has that map feature the "shows you the way".
michelleb, here's a link (unfortunately not MK's) & I risk offending some Americans by mentioning she was in the army tsk tsk
http://www.independent.co.uk/extras/sunday-review/living/i-married-the-e...
The Marquis de Sade endorses auto-erotic asphyxiation in his book Justine. That's probably a clue that it is best not to try it.
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No to make a joke about his death, but you know what they say about one night in Bangkok...
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Well then, duh. If someone killed him and wanted to make it look like he did it himself, they'd shove him in the closet and hope the investigators come to the same conclusion you did.
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Talk about DUH - If he was tied in a manner that meant someone else was involved (i.e. hands tied behind his back) then what in the hell would they need to drag him to a closet for to make people think he did it himself when obviously he couldn't have?
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If his hands were tied, my guess is it was consenting sex and he was just into the bondage thing. He may have accidentally choked and his partner just freaked out and left him there...if she was a hooker, that'd definitely make sense.
My bf actually had a cousin who died from autoerotic asphyxiation...what an shitty way to go.
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Submitted by Crash_Override on Fri, 06/05/2009 - 2:32pm.
"...If my dad died like that I don't know how I would feel about it, but i'm so fucking sure that I wouldn't miss the sicko bastard..."
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WTF is wrong with you, you fucking repressed asshole! If it was a sex gone wrong related death, what business of yours would it be as his child?!! You are a fucking moron.
FOUL PLAY! Definitely. No way did he kill himself. He was working on a movie which made him happier than anything. Plus, the Thai police are the most corrupt motherfuckers in the world! I don't believe anything they say or that hotel for that matter. That autopsy better be conducted with someone other than Thai medical examiner or that's totally untrustworthy too! Can you say corrupt?! The Thai authorities are the epitomy of that word.
I'm going with MURDER!
When I heard Bangkok, nude, and hanging, I immediately thought autoerotic asphyxiation gone wrong. Apparently, Carradine's ex-wife claimed he was into some kinky stuff. I have been to Bangkok, and it is too much of a temptation for people who like kinky sex. (You really can get anything you want there.)
when I first heard this sans details, I thought "This is some Michael Hutchence shit". But everybody's gonna go one day, so you might as well go coming. RIP.
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Hekki, I'm starting to suspect that the hotel has something to do with this, such as providing the hooker, maybe - why they're being slow/ uncooperative. Not 100% convinced that the security cameras didn't record anything.
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I feel so bad for his kids. If my dad died like that I don't know how I would feel about it, but i'm so fucking sure that I wouldn't miss the sicko bastard. Not to mention the whole fucking world knowing about it.
Submitted by Hekki on Fri, 06/05/2009 - 12:28pm.
Submitted by Mother Superior: "...I am kind of shaky about one of my colleagues....he is (and I'm not being mean) one of the most unattractive men I've ever seen. One eye is glass, he is bald, his teeth are brown from smoking and he is 60 years old. He is incredibly disrespectful to women.
And.....he bought himself a bride aged 22 in Thailand!!!"
I hope she fucking shanks him in his sleep one night.
Not that I REALLY wish death on anyone, but he sounds despicable. That girl must have had one hell of a horrible life in Thailand to have come here for THAT. I hope she gets out from under him and gets to have a nice life. I feel sorry for those mail order brides and as much as they are probably manipulative and greedy, who can blame them?
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She is still in Thailand because there were problems. She wasn't allowed to come to the UK despite being married to my colleague.
The problem: When they signed the imigration papers they found out that my colleague cheated on the council benefits.
He's well able to pay his own flat, but got it payed by the tax payer instead.
He got fined for that and must prove that he pays for his own flat.
Thing is, he's greedy.
He lives in a flat share (at the age of 60), so this poor girl will move to London, sharing her home with a couple of men.
I have no words for this, really not.
Kudos to DC for being limber enough to try the choke and stroke. How many 72 year old men are able to use the toilet and not piss all over the it and floor?
Let alone entertain their kinky side.
I feel truly terrible for his family, though I would rather think Grandpa died from a sex fetish gone horribly wrong, than a suicide. Maybe not a great visual, but a little easier on my soul.
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I had a student a few years back that died due to autoerotic asphyxiation. His roomate found him hanging in the closet with a belt around his neck and his pants around his ankles. It was terrible for the family who were both grieving for the loss and embarrassed that the kid was such a shmuck.
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Im not buying auto erotic asphyxiation. My guess is he pissed off a hooker or was robbed by one.
Submitted by FilthyBitch on Fri, 06/05/2009 - 1:27pm.
Here is the bottom line, if someone else were responsible they wouldn't have taken him to the closet. Not to be super graphic, but they would have just put a rope around his neck and choked him with it.
People go to the closet for the auto-erotic asphyxiation thing because they need something above them to tie the rope to.
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Well then, duh. If someone killed him and wanted to make it look like he did it himself, they'd shove him in the closet and hope the investigators come to the same conclusion you did.
I'm here. DC's death is queer. Get used to it. But seriously I'm not here to solve any mysteries, I'm just loving all the Gosselin hair avatars. I'm scrolling the comments just to look at all of them and I am laughing my ass off. RIP DC.
Here is the bottom line, if someone else were responsible they wouldn't have taken him to the closet. Not to be super graphic, but they would have just put a rope around his neck and choked him with it.
People go to the closet for the auto-erotic asphyxiation thing because they need something above them to tie the rope to. A normal bar in a closet has a whole lot of give in it, especially if its empty, and they somehow think that makes it safe. In most rooms it's the only option other than the light fixture in the ceiling and why would you bother with dragging furniture around the room trying to get to the ceiling when you can just use the pole in the closet?
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Michael Hutchence! I could not remember that guy's name for anything yesterday. I was telling my sister what happened to him years ago and she didn't know who I was talking about. (Excuse me, please, gotta go call sis!)
Exactly what I said yesterday. A KINKY SEX ACT GONE WRONG.
i knew it, nobody dies before doin some freaky shit in thailand..its just science
Submitted by michelleb on Fri, 06/05/2009 - 11:47am.
Ok, I am going to catch hell for this, but oh effing well. I do not get the whole auto-erotic masturbation thing. Masturbation is not a GD game of Clue, there is no reason to head to the broom closet with a rope and a lead pipe. AND if you have reached the point in life that you need to half kill yourself to enjoy masturbating, it probably means that you need to lay off the masturbating for awhile and get some new hobbies.
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I know you're serious here, but the way you phrased this is one of the funniest things I've read all day. Mind if I use part for my signature?
For the record, I don't understand the appeal of auto-erotic asphyxiation either. Or being choked during other acts. I'm not a living-on-the-edge kind of girl, I guess.
If any of you have been to Bangkok, you know any sort of shit could have happened. I remember a couple of years back an australian went over there and had some sort of accident and they wouldn't turn over his body for yonks and when they did finally get it back in oz, all the organs and eyes were missing. Last time I was there this little kid (2ish) followed me for blocks in a long dirty adult t-shirt. I thought he was lost. But then someone finally told me he belonged to the gypsies on the bridge. They buy kids in the country and cut off their appendanges or starve them and leave them dirty and make them beg. Bangkok is a corrupt and dirty shithole.
It's the origin of all FUCKERY.
The only person who is ever going to know what really happened to David is him and the probably now dead hooker someone sent to his hotel room as a gift.
from what i read he seemed to have put all the bad things in his life behind him and was looking forward to the future. thid does not sound like a man that would kill himself.
he was murdered pure and simple.
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They are just trying to spin it so it doesn't seem like he died ala Michael Hutchence - it's embarrassing.
His manager wasn't there or this would have been the first thing reported because he would have seen it himself.
The manager needs to shut his whore mouth.
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Oh man MK talked about the crazy building humpers and I MISSED it?? (I have been reading this site for forever, just didn't post that much until recently). That must have been when I was down in the Dominican or something (speaking of places on earth where there is some freaky sex shit going down). does anyone remember what he may have filed it under?
I am NOT going to get too specific/graphic here, but I have been in bed with some scary sluts and I almost got tied up once. One wrist. Luckily, I woke up from my grass high to escape total imprisonment.
Can you imagine?
Fucked to death?!
Hmmmm...
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Submitted by Mysmichelle on Fri, 06/05/2009 - 11:52am.
Do you really have a 1 year old with a man that old? What possessed you to do that?
I thought it sounded weird myself. You know when peeps are in Thailand, esp. old men, they do crazy shit. I knew something was not kosher with this.
Submitted by Mother Superior: "...I am kind of shaky about one of my colleagues....he is (and I'm not being mean) one of the most unattractive men I've ever seen. One eye is glass, he is bald, his teeth are brown from smoking and he is 60 years old. He is incredibly disrespectful to women.
And.....he bought himself a bride aged 22 in Thailand!!!"
I hope she fucking shanks him in his sleep one night.
Not that I REALLY wish death on anyone, but he sounds despicable. That girl must have had one hell of a horrible life in Thailand to have come here for THAT. I hope she gets out from under him and gets to have a nice life. I feel sorry for those mail order brides and as much as they are probably manipulative and greedy, who can blame them?
Brings a whole new meaning to "Roped off"...
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Submitted by Plecostomus on Fri, 06/05/2009 - 12:04pm.
I bet she knocks first now eh?
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