Four To Six More Weeks
The L.A. County Coroner held a press conference today where he said that it will take 4-6 more weeks before they know the official cause of Michael Jackson's death. Michael's autopsy was completed, but they need to do more toxicology tests to know for sure. The Coroner also said that there were no signs of any external trauma to Michael's body and they don't suspect foul play. He did say that Michael was taking prescription pills, but he can't say for sure what he was taking until the tests come back. Also, Michael was pronounced dead by the doctors at the hospital.
Those are the facts for now. There are a million rumors running everywhere (google it, you dumb fuck) about what he was taking. MJ's old doctor, Deepak Chopra, told CNN that he heard a shot of Demerol caused him to go into cardiac arrest. The cops are also confirmed that they looking to speak to Michael Jackson's in-house doctor who tried to revive him before the paramedics arrived. The doctor dude is currently MIA.
So...four more weeks. Or more! Is there enough kitten videos on YouTube to get me through it? I think I've already seen them all. Every time I read some sad stuff, I look for another kitten video to watch. I'll have to move on to bunnies, puppies and ferrets. No, scratch that last one. I'll never go that far.
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I think MJ od'ed like Anna Nicole & Heath Ledger. Doubt that he died a natural death. RIP MJ you were one sick puppy.
Submitted by angel_i on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 8:31am.
@lizzieb: You got attacked? I MUST have missed some major MJ loonie shit yesterday - even Lory was talking about pitchforks...weird.
Yes. Called an idiot and a bitch- oh, an atheist fuck too.
Never happened before, bit of a shock.
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Morbidly obese, barren, jellus h8er, jen-hen at your service.
Farrah Fawcett enters the gates of heaven and an angel says to her, you suffered much and you were a good person we will answer one prayer for you. Farrah thinks and says I wish that all the children on Earth will be safe.
An hour later Michael Jackson dies.
You're welcome.
Here's a kitten sucking off a male dog (seriously):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEwLUyZtsN4
And here's the cutest kitten EVER:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So7ovF6thpo
sadly, a dead MJ is worth more than a living MJ
Thank heaven for MK, he creates a world where I no longer have to worry about the media. He will distill the essence the tsunami of bulls@hit (MK) and leave me with a peaceful easy(?) feeling knowing the the world is still OK. thanks MK, The world needs more of your type. And by type I mean mega/slut and nosy neighbor probs.
Edie said that sometimes the line between the past and present is blurred.(They are both, it has to be said, quite, quite mad.)
I'm soon to be 47, so like many grew up with this music. I remember being around 10 or so, and it was a fierce competition between the Jackson 5 and the Osmonds. Sad part is that Donny and Marie to this day won't go away. (Laugh people).
What I remember most, is the fact that he was a true showman, even though I wasn't into his type of music. Regardless, of whatever he did, didn't do, (and I hold my own beliefs on that), he was a talented perfomer.
BTW, never a big Farrah fan either. Never watched Charlie's Angles, but did see "The Burning Bed" which I think she did an awesome job in. Today, I watched "Farrah's Story" on MSNBC. It gave me a new apprecation to her as a person. I don't know if anyone's seen it, but this woman suffered
big-time!, and as a result there were new laws put into effect regarding hospital policies. She also made a difference and now watching and knowing what she did and went thru, I just wish the media would give her a little more respect also.
BACK IN DA 70'Z I WOULD SLEEP WITH WOMEN! I AM MORE OF A MUSICAL GENIUS THEN MICHEAL JACKSON EVER WAS. ONLY THING I EVA SMOKED WAS PURPLE HAZE
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...if he had been found guilty and I proclaimed his innocence, pople would quickly point out he had been convicted and say I was not looking at the facts.
but the reverse....hmmm
believe what you want
the fact is...he was found not guilty
and was STILL persecuted and suffered
what the fuck is right about that?
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Jean-Paul Sartre "So that is what hell is. I would never have believed it. You remember: the fire and brimstone, the torture. Ah! the farce. There is no need for torture: hell is other people."
@DD: I did say you can't pinpoint without an actual individual. There are millions of reasons for people to do the things they do.
I can't explain those people and I won't talk about MJ's case because I don't have those people in front of me to talk to. I can't tell anything without full disclosure - that means word choices, body language, full histories and full documentation of events. No one can. That's how these things have a tendency to get out of hand. Especially given the fact that most systems of law are full of shit. And people ignore half of what the hear or read anyway.
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Bonnie Fuller's claiming Michael Jackson had lupus, which could explain death from a heart attack at 50. However, someone from the coroner's office said they were surprised at how healthy Michael Jackson's body appeared, as well as shocked at how scarred his face was. Guess we'll have to wait for the full report.
and he was acquitted. Which means not guilty. Except in the court of public opinion....
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Which means nothing to me in terms of whether he was guilty or not. OJ Simpson and Robert Blake were also found not guilty despite the mounds of evidence. These days a well-picked jury takes "reasonable doubt" as meaning anything, no matter how absurd, that casts doubt.
Sharing beds with children that are not your own is just plain creepy. If he loved children so much, that's wonderful. Host kids at your ranch but be sure that you aren't anywhere close to beng in a compromising situation.
Seriously, if my brother wanted my kid to sleep in the same room with him at night I would think it strange. If MJ wasn't a celebrity, can you imagine not thinking the worst if some guy down the street looked like Michael and was constantly having sleepovers with children -- especially after having been accused of molestation?
Either just can't control his urges or is really so tremendously stupid. I don't think he was tremendously stupid.
Perhaps he had a false sense of security that accusations wouldn't happen again. Or that his celebritism and deep pockets would get him out of a jam.
Well first off, if you truly felt you were not doing something wrong, why would you stop? MJ was obviously a very stubborn man, and powerful. Who said no to him. Clearly he wanted to do what he wanted to do. Mental or not.
Meanwhile being called guilty even after yers with no one able to provide any factual proof (even in the first case, there's no "payoff", if there had been physical proof, there would have been a trial. there was no trial because it was based on the child's testimony, and he refused to testify after he got "paid")
Furthermore by the second accusation, folk had every reason to go after him hard....and he was acquitted. Which means not guilty. Except in the court of public opinion....
If he had been in Salem, he would have fried!
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Jean-Paul Sartre "So that is what hell is. I would never have believed it. You remember: the fire and brimstone, the torture. Ah! the farce. There is no need for torture: hell is other people."
Submitted by Owls are A-Holes on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 5:18am.
Submitted by DiamondDawg on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 1:31am.
If you're a guy and you molest little boys, it's not gay??
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Sorry,gotta jump in on that. There are also female child molesters who molest boys. We have seen the epidemic of female teachers engaging in sex with young boys.
It's not whether a molester is gay or not. It's the fact that they like kids.
I just adding my 2 centavos.
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Oh hai, Owly!!
Thanks for the change *slips through notch in piggy bank*
I don't really want to "fight" about the topic, I just want to share that I believe it's not a black and white issue. And I so totally know about the female perps, too - scoundrels, rot in hell, my schematic. :-) My bottomline is that I believe Michael was very likely a pedophile.
But for all the pedophile experts, what's the rationalization for this recent pedophile extraordinaire?
Saturday, June 27, 2009
Trial Set For Man Accused In Dungeon Case
The trial of Josef Fritzl, the Austrian accused of imprisoning and raping his daughter in a homemade dungeon for 24 years, will begin March 16, according to court officials in St. Pölten. The authorities say that Mr. Fritzl is mentally fit to stand trial for locking his daughter Elisabeth in a soundproof basement in the town of Amstetten and fathering seven children with her. He is also charged with murder for not providing medical care to the seventh child, who died. The trial will be closed to the public, a court spokesman said.
Also...
What about all those diseased folk who STEAL children they DON'T KNOW, rape them, imprison them, etc? I'm trying to remember...I don't think John Walsh's daughter or Polly Klaas, or the Mormon child had a PREVIOUS "relationship" with their abductors/rapists. ( I could be wrong about the last one - I think they had previously been in the vicinity).
Anyhoo....
*winks at angel_i*
*Gives Owly a dollar*
He's African American. That makes him more prone to heart disease at a younger age. But then again, he was never really heavy, so that idea may be thrown out. Also, doesn't plastic surgery make you bound to have heart problems too? I dunno, just throwing out some theories like everyone else.
Here's what makes me think that Jackson was a pedo. Let's pretend that he never even touched the kids, was he getting off on having them in his room? Even after being accused of molestation and a huge payout, he could not help himself. I'm sure his handlers had to have told him, Dude, you can't do this anymore. He couldn't stop his urges enough to employ common sense and spare the embarrassment of another allegation? I can't imagine an innocent person ever allowing a child in their house that wasn't family just to protect themselves. But he couldn't and wouldn't stop.
Here's an interesting excerpt about that attempt to rehab his image:
Bashir assumed that, since the Chandler scandal, Jackson was now more circumspect about his houseguests. But to his "utter astonishment," the interviewer said he discovered while visiting Jackson on his Neverland ranch that children were still sleeping over, "sometimes in his house, sometimes in his bedroom."
@lizzieb: You got attacked? I MUST have missed some major MJ loonie shit yesterday - even Lory was talking about pitchforks...weird.
Anywhatever, Yeah - I find it weird they can bust him open RIGHT now but can't get results for weeks. That's bullshit. They're spending all those weeks hammering out a deal.
And yeah - I HARDLY believe they were ever going to let him tour at all. I think it was a GREAT way to generate hype for his death which would have been a lot quieter (altho not less "celebrated") if not for the tour.
I realize now that he tried a pap stroll last summer and it didn't go well. I didn't get, at the time, that that's what he was doing but I see now. I know it didn't go well cuz he never did it again. The pap stroll, itself, was fine - perfect, in fact, so considering he was ready to go out on tour I'm surprised he hasn't been seen anywhere that a camera might catch him....so I totally believe that you guys DIDN'T see him that night;p
Submitted by kiwikim on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 2:18am.
Submitted by angel_i on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 2:13am.
And yes - I realize I just sided with the prosecution. Blec
Not really. I know what you mean. :)) I may have to go, I can't deal with homosexual hate. One of my biggest pet peeves is the linking of homosexuality and child molestation/rape. The media perpetuates that again and again and it's just stuck in people's heads
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Yeah, that's a big issue. Especially cuz people who touch little boys are brought to light and publicly persecuted WAY more often that in the case of little girls. I don't like what that says either way - either that little girls are not as important or that society, somehow, believes little boys can take the heat.
But on MJ and the media and molestation...that's where my pet peeve lies...sometimes I feel like the media gets to acting like pedophilia was invented in the 80s. And interesting you mention war becuz I also happen to be very curious as to why people will hate, hate, hate in defense of one little molested boy and then totally ignore the hundreds of children being killed and maimed every day in war.
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Lizzieb. Maybe but AEG are a massive operation as are the O2. They won't accept an all clear from any old quack. Something smells, I agree but I don't think he would have gotten away with this as an elaborate hoax. But that he was surrounded by enablers and people that were pushing him, well that's a fact.
I cosign with the asexual argument. I think many people kinda view MJ as still virgin. It' like he got no credit for sleeping with his wives, and even having children in an asexual way...but then he's sexual with young boys? And also to be "predatory" yet parents were leaving their kids with the man by the boatload. I don't know...all I can say is I don't see where he was ever trying to hurt anyone. I did not get that vibe. Obviously he was mental but I do believe he really did want peace and happiness for all.
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Jean-Paul Sartre "So that is what hell is. I would never have believed it. You remember: the fire and brimstone, the torture. Ah! the farce. There is no need for torture: hell is other people."
Submitted by DiamondDawg on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 1:31am.
If you're a guy and you molest little boys, it's not gay??
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Sorry,gotta jump in on that. There are also female child molesters who molest boys. We have seen the epidemic of female teachers engaging in sex with young boys.
It's not whether a molester is gay or not. It's the fact that they like kids.
I just adding my 2 centavos.
''Oh my God! Bear's Driving! How can that be?!''
Submitted by GlitterKitty on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 4:15am.
Lizzieb- I knew those rumours would surface. Yes he is alive running a cocktail bar with Elvis, Marilyn and Princess Di!
I find it odd how some people seem unable to accept that yes, famous people die too!
As for it being him at the O2 in London, yes some of my friends who were there (for work I hasten to add) said that he looked peculiar and were unsure it was him
Ha!Good point.
As for the O2, well, I wonder. A man who drops down dead at 50 is not likely to be in the best of health a few months earlier? Maybe the fake MJ did the medical? Or the doctor was a crook? Let's face it, dodgy doctors who dole out pills as and when you fancy them are not hard to find for the rich and a fake medical can't be that taxing.
I'd better get a grip, I'll be going on about the moon landings next.
I've edited this to add http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_256XQiS1X8
That's not him. He's bigger than MJ, his face is fuller and more natural looking and his voice is much deeper. I swear, it's not him!
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Morbidly obese, barren, jellus h8er, jen-hen at your service.
Lizzieb- I knew those rumours would surface. Yes he is alive running a cocktail bar with Elvis, Marilyn and Princess Di!
I find it odd how some people seem unable to accept that yes, famous people die too!
As for it being him at the O2 in London, yes some of my friends who were there (for work I hasten to add) said that he looked peculiar and were unsure it was him. That said, the insurance on those shows was mahaaaaaaaaasiiiivvve. They would have at least done a physical on him I would have thought. But I fully expect people to think he sold the tickets, faked his own death and is now somewhere in the Bahamas. Problem with that is the liability AEG are facing which is going to be huge. They will be fucked so I doubt there is any truth in it.
In this day and age you cannot do a Lord Lucan and vanish off the face of the earth. Not with the media as it is today.
Things are never that straight forward. MJ was an abused child and sent out to work at 5. We all know how fucked up kids with famewhore parents can get (just look at that hag Dina and Lindsay). That is not to excuse the stuff he allegedly (don't forget Americans, you cleared him in a court of law and that has to say something- not that I blame you for that, I didn't follow the case) got up to, but don't forget that this was once a kid too, of whom too much was expected. I get some of the hate, but dismissing him as some has-been peado is wrong. I said it before, people that were born after my generation simply do not get how big he was around Thriller. He was bigger than Vadge, Prince anyone. I was a kid when I sat there waiting for the Thriller video to be aired. And the amazement I felt. He was the shit and even though 90s Michael was as far away from me as possible (I hated the chhhomonn hi hiiii shit he started doing too much of) and even though Earth Song is one of the worst songs ever written (i.m.h.o) yes I put "One day in your life" on yesterday and yes I had a tear! (I didn't find out till morning UK time). I had a few!
Someone here said that your discomfort about any molestation can coexist with your love of his music and that is spot on. Sure he had problems and sure some shit was wrong, but his music is amazing. Don't anyone deny that this is just the passing of some guy who once did music. You simply have no idea what you are talking about. This was before the internet, before itunes etc and I still remember the genuine excitement of getting the album and putting it on for the first time (vinyl!). Yes, times were better back then!
Well I hate to say ANYTHING as I 've been soundly abused in other threads despite being polite (most of the time) but I wonder if anyone else noticed this. The TV was showing MJ at the press conference to promote the shows he was about to do at the O2 in the UK and both me and Mrb said 'that's not him' He looked like him but his appearance has been so odd that's not hard but it didn't sound like him. I wonder if even before what ever combination of health problems and drugs killed him he was wasn't well enough to appear. Why does it take so long to get toxicology results? A drug test takes minutes- is it very different when the person is deceased?I don't understand.
I've has three people say he's not dead to me as well.I think that wishful thinking. You know, he's found a way to get out of the spotlight etc.I know people said that about Elvis.
Anyway, just wondered what you thought. Hope MJloonies aren't going to attack. This seems fairly tame to me.
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Morbidly obese, barren, jellus h8er, jen-hen at your service.
Why is it that every other dead person has to wait for ages to be opened and MJ's autopsy was a matter of hours only?
Even after death celebs get special treatment, eh?
Tickle Loris in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLdQ3UhLoD4
Submitted by angel_i on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 2:13am.
And yes - I realize I just sided with the prosecution. Blec
Not really. I know what you mean. :)) I may have to go, I can't deal with homosexual hate. One of my biggest pet peeves is the linking of homosexuality and child molestation/rape. The media perpetuates that again and again and it's just stuck in people's heads. A lot of people can not separate the two anymore. It's like not being able to separate that the terrorists were from a country other than the country we are currently at war with. They justify the war by the bombing of the towers and then you tell them the people that bomb the towers are not from Iraq and they go huh? Besides, I wanted to talk about Michael J. See you around in some other post. hug.
Submitted by angel_i on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 2:07am.
Submitted by kiwikim on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 2:00am.
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I think what's missing from all of this is that they're not TRYING to justify it.
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Not outright. But they are some of the most passive/aggressive people I've met. They never take outright responsibility for their crime. They don't exactly come out and say I'm doing this to justify it. Or I know it's wrong ,but it was OK with me because I loved him. But they need justification for it so they don't feel dirty. And this feeling of not wanting to be dirty is what stops them from having sex with grown men or women. They really can't handle adult sex. They say absolutely they loved this kid. They were helping them. etc. They don't think what they did was wrong. Most think it's natural-hence the existence of nambla.
The chicken thing you posted earlier...weird. Maybe some of the rumors about sheep herders...
And yes - I realize I just sided with the prosecution. Blech.
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Submitted by DiamondDawg on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 1:51am.
He's technically working for on a research project, but as far as I can tell, there is no "memo" telling him he can't suddenly volunteer to work one of the saturday program
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I'm sure there is a memo. It's called his probation release terms. I'm sure the offender is well aware he could not volunteer on the saturday program.
Submitted by kiwikim on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 2:00am.
DD-My boss' dad was a cop and he says the recidivism rate is practically 100% for those guys.
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That's true. But he more than likely wouldn't molest someone that has come through on a tour. These guys like to groom kids. They typically don't just find a kid and rape. They like to develop a relationship. It helps them justify it.
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I think what's missing from all of this is that they're not TRYING to justify it. They feel justified. And, also, the psycho-sexual aspect of it suggests that they are often not, in their minds, raping little boys, but fulfilling some sexual demon inside themselves AS little boys. Projecting.
And also, just that qualifier - there are lots and lots of reasons that people commit sexual crimes. It's hard to pinpoint without an actual individual to discuss.
Another qualifier would be that all psychological disorders involving children don't automatically lead to sexual crime. Sometimes they're beaten, sometimes they're psychologically bullied, sometimes they're totally spoiled...
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Submitted by DiamondDawg on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 1:56am.
Submitted by kiwikim on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 1:50am.
Submitted by DiamondDawg on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 1:42am.
I don't know if the church has been filling your mind or what, but you are way too angry about gays
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Pot calling the kettle black. So judgemental, honey. Just because I disagree? Is there no room for a differing perspective?
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This is hardly a different perspective. You're perpetuating a stereotype I find as offensive as saying "all black men want white women and will rape them" so the world ends up looking like some backwoods trash version of the courtroom scene in Mockingbird with everyone believing the white woman was telling the truth because of course, every black man wants to rape a white woman. Gay men are not molesters.
I get the distinct feeling you're stirring up shit at your job and you don't have any idea. You should be careful before you ruin someone's life. This guy, as creepy as he probably is, paid his dues in the justice system. Or are you going to pull a Michael and spread a lot of rumors you don't know are true and drive someone off a cliff?
DD-My boss' dad was a cop and he says the recidivism rate is practically 100% for those guys.
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That's true. But he more than likely wouldn't molest someone that has come through on a tour. These guys like to groom kids. They typically don't just find a kid and rape. They like to develop a relationship. It helps them justify it. Then they can say, "oh we had something special", " I really loved him", etc. Doesn't nambla stand for man/boy love? Not man/boy sexual freedom.
That's why they pick "caring" professions. Like boy scout leader. They get a lot of time with the kid. It doesn't just provide opportunity for sex, but mostly an opportunity to develop "something special". You have to remember they are afraid of getting caught, so if they develop this relationship with a kid, they can play into all sorts of psychological junk to keep them from talking. The kid is afraid of loosing the attention, afraid of betraying someone who has been so nice to them, etc etc. That's also why they tend to pick abused kids, kids of single moms-a vulnerable population. These kids are used to being controlled. And you need a lot of information to pick that kid. It isn't something a molester does just by spying someone walking through a school.
Submitted by kiwikim on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 1:50am.
Submitted by DiamondDawg on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 1:42am.
I don't know if the church has been filling your mind or what, but you are way too angry about gays
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Pot calling the kettle black. So judgemental, honey. Just because I disagree? Is there no room for a differing perspective?
Goodnight.
Submitted by kiwikim on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 1:29am.
Submitted by MyTwoCents on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 1:24am.
Odd, isn't it. I actually always felt that he was asexual. Adult don't tend to understand that... kids on the other hand.
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I'm with you on that one. Provolone really disagrees. I could be reading my own inability to see Michael sexually into my vision of him though. I don't get gay from him at all. I think the guy had a really controlling tyrannical father and never felt like he could grasp what it was to be a man. He really needed someone to keep controlling him and telling him what to do.
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Lots of people disagree and I can see why they're convinced of that. I'm not convinced one way or the other, but I do think his attachment to children gave very good reason to be suspect.
I haven't the faintest idea what made Jackson what he became. I just feel that there was a third possibility... that he was asexual and his preference for the company of children might have been innocent. Its possible. But really, it's anyones guess.
Submitted by jussayin on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 1:37am.
I feel you juss. To go from being one of the most beloved artists to one of the most despised was tragic and terribly sad.
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Submitted by DiamondDawg on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 1:51am.
He's technically working for on a research project, but as far as I can tell, there is no "memo" telling him he can't suddenly volunteer to work one of the saturday programs. Maybe they know internally and there's an agreement.
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Well, THAT makes sense - he'd likely not be allowed to volunteer for that kind of thing which would have been made clear beforehand. If he din't work there - he'd need a check to volunteer.
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@shandi and jussayin...that was pretty bootiful, btw. I am glad to not be totally alone...
@DD: Really! I can't believe he's allowed to work around kids. That don't fly here - you need a check and if you fail, that's it. You need to find some other kinda work.
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Submitted by kiwikim on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 1:45am.
Submitted by DiamondDawg on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 1:41am.
Submitted by kiwikim on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 1:33am.
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No one can say a single word about it because its against the law to do that. So all the kids I see are at risk. He's a level 2 - i think that indicates high potential for recidivism. He raped a boy.
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What? Where do you live? Those people are always strictly prohibited from working with kids. If he got a job at a school, it's because the school didn't run a check on him like they should. Those sorts of checks cost money. The only reason I can think that he would have been allowed a job in a school, assuming probation and everyone knew, is that he has undergone castration as some of them choose to do.
It's so so bad to put a person like that around kids. It really feeds their compulsions.
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I don't know what to tell you, KK. He's working on a PH.D. in a program at the university. Our department gives tours to school children. We put on a weekly Saturday event for KIDS. He's technically working for on a research project, but as far as I can tell, there is no "memo" telling him he can't suddenly volunteer to work one of the saturday programs. Maybe they know internally and there's an agreement. But our building is a public building. I suppose he if just suddenly got the crazies he could snatch a kid and run away. I think more than half the people where I work would not know he's a registered sex offender. I've been at my job longer than my new boss. He has 3 little boys. I confidentially told him about it and he practically flipped. He brings the boys in once in awhile. My boss' dad was a cop and he says the recidivism rate is practically 100% for those guys. This guy, as far as I know, has not been chemically castrated. I don't think its legal in this state.
I really loathe this guy. The way he says my name is SO GD creepy I want to scream at him.
Submitted by DiamondDawg on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 1:42am.
I don't know if the church has been filling your mind or what, but you are way too angry about gays. I don't know a gay man (and I know a few) that would ever even think about having sex with a kid. They want grown muscly gay men. And I don't know any molesters (unfortunately I've had to meet a few of those too for professional reasons) that wanted to or professed to a desire to have sex with grown men. They find grown men disgusting. Public hair, facial hair, chest hair. They can't deal with it at all. They profess a desire for their children to be smooth. They don't like muscles. And they really don't like someone with a mind of their own. They want control. They want a lot of things NOT found in grown men. I don't know where you are getting this information from, but you're perpetuating a horrible stereotype.
Talk to survivors of childhood molestation and they will all tell you it stopped as soon as they hit puberty and started to grow hair.
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"And I went through this whole thing; am I gay?! Am I straight?! And I realized: I'm just slutty." ~Margaret Cho
"This is supposed to be about delicious booze!" ~MK
Submitted by MyTwoCents on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 1:37am.
Submitted by DiamondDawg on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 1:31am.
If you're a guy and you molest little boys, it's not gay??
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Um.. no. Its pedophilia
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Naw. That schematic doesn't make sense.
I would certainly say, though, that not all gay men are pedophiles.
Submitted by DiamondDawg on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 1:41am.
Submitted by kiwikim on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 1:33am.
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No one can say a single word about it because its against the law to do that. So all the kids I see are at risk. He's a level 2 - i think that indicates high potential for recidivism. He raped a boy.
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What? Where do you live? Those people are always strictly prohibited from working with kids. If he got a job at a school, it's because the school didn't run a check on him like they should. Those sorts of checks cost money. The only reason I can think that he would have been allowed a job in a school, assuming probation and everyone knew, is that he has undergone castration as some of them choose to do.
It's so so bad to put a person like that around kids. It really feeds their compulsions.
Submitted by kiwikim on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 1:37am.
Submitted by DiamondDawg on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 1:31am.
If you're a guy and you molest little boys, it's not gay??
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Absolutely not. Molesting children is not a homosexual experience. Molesters do not think in any way that they are having a sexual experience with a "male". They see "a child". Most of them know it's wrong and are not driven by a desire to have sex with men.They are driven by a desire to have sex with kids. They can not replace their desire to have sex with children by going out and having sex with men their age. It's totally different.
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ABSOLUTELY NOT BUYING IT.
WHO THE FUCK CARES! im sick of haters, NOT GUILTY NOT GULITY NOT GULITY~ im sorry i hate the hate that comes out of this, it poisons me. my argurment of let an icon die is not good enough. my point is I THINK ITS A PIVOT IN OUR ICONIC EXISTENCE. let it go. YOUR nascsr point of view means NOTHING to me.
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"And I went through this whole thing; am I gay?! Am I straight?! And I realized: I'm just slutty." ~Margaret Cho
"This is supposed to be about delicious booze!" ~MK
Michaels' doctor.
I don't think he's missing anymore. He did quit practice though. The guy was a cardiologist. Must mean they knew MJ had heart problems...No?
http://bumpshack.com/2009/06/26/dr-conrad-murray-is-michael-jackson’s-doctor-photo/
Submitted by kiwikim on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 1:33am.
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and then there are the thousands of molesters who are married with regular families, or transient toofless dudes. They're everywhere. Run a zip code check using the Sexual Offenders Database.
We have a pedophile, registered sex offender at work. We also have HUNDREDS of kids come through during the school year. No one can say a single word about it because its against the law to do that. So all the kids I see are at risk. He's a level 2 - i think that indicates high potential for recidivism. He raped a boy.
Submitted by DiamondDawg on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 1:31am.
If you're a guy and you molest little boys, it's not gay??
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Absolutely not. Molesting children is not a homosexual experience. Molesters do not think in any way that they are having a sexual experience with a "male". They see "a child". Most of them know it's wrong and are not driven by a desire to have sex with men.They are driven by a desire to have sex with kids. They can not replace their desire to have sex with children by going out and having sex with men their age. It's totally different.
I think it's so sad, watching all his music. He was so idealistic and optimistic, trying to make a change, and the world just beat on him....and then he realized it was useless and tried to escape and the world just shit on him. I think he had an innocent heart and just didn't really understand evil. LOL I was naive like that, once. Actually I still don't get evilness, like watching Neda die, or that 1 billion people are starving while we buy iphones (where did that LiveAid ,etc. money go). He wanted to heal the world....and realized pople are cruel and don't want to change. I think it broke his heart a long time ago....
I know it broke mine.
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Submitted by DiamondDawg on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 1:31am.
If you're a guy and you molest little boys, it's not gay??
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Um.. no. Its pedophilia.
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Submitted by Sock-Monkey on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 1:31am.
Submitted by angel_i on Sat, 06/27/2009 - 1:16am.
Agreed. On all counts.
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Hi! Angel!
Read that the "doctor" who worked on him while awaiting an ambulance pulled an OJ!
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Hai cutie!
Weird! And weird they don't even know who that doctor is?! Shouldn't that be pretty easy info to come by? I think it's also weird that the autopsy will take so long...well, not weird really but disgusting. Can you imagine how full of crap that body must be...it'll take weeks just to rummage through it all like an old garage that's been used for storage. Blech.
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