Maury, Your Assistance Is Needed
This is TMZ: "Jackson/Rowe Not the Biological Parents!" This is UsWeekly: "Dermatologist Is Biological Dad of Michael Jackson's Children!" This is Me: "MAAAAAURY! SAVE US!"
Maybe I should wash the jizz residue out of my eyes, because I always thought Michael Jackson's kids kind of looked like him. Then again, I regularly grab whole wheat bread at the grocery store thinking its white bread.....
Well, some bitches are screaming that Prince Michael, Paris and Blanket aren't Michael's biological children.
TMZ is even saying that Debbie Rowe isn't their biological mother. A few sources told them that Debbie was the baby oven for Paris and Prince Michael, but her eggs were not used. The identity of the surrogate who carried Blanket is still unknown. The sources went on to yap that all three children were conceived in vitro and they don't know whether or not Michael knew the egg or sperm donors. And that's where UsWeekly comes in....
According to their source, Prince Michael and Paris' bio-father is dermatologist Arnold Klein. The source added, "He and Debbie signed an agreement saying they would never reveal the truth."
AND TMZ also claims that Michael never adopted any of his three kids, because he didn't think anybody would try to get custody.
AAAAAGGGHHH! Escandalo overload.
I know it's cliche as hell, but can all parties involved gather on Maury's stage to work this out before the headlines get crazier. Because I won't be surprised if I see a website with the headline: "DEBBIE ROWE REALLY A MAN! WORLD'S TRUE PREGNANT DUDE."
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I was more upset when Carl Sagan died. Sure, he couldn't moonwalk, but he made science accessible, making us all feel a part of the cosmos. He made poetry and science one, and his televisions programs meant as much to me as MJ's music. No one could say anything bad about his character either. You didn't have to separate the man from his work in Sagan's case.
Perhaps it shows how much Sagan was respected, that his death didn't incite such extravagant histrionics as we are witnessing now with the death of Michael Jackson. Sagan spoke to the divine inside each and every one of us, while MJ's death seems only to have rallied a mob. A mob, that is willing to accept that a grown man sharing his bed with young boys is normal, a mob, that proclaims him a great father even though he was clearly addicted to many drugs. I ask his apologists: would you be as tolerant of the single drug addicted dad next door who wanted to share his bed with your young son?
Mourn his music, lament the tragedy that was his life, but let's not pretend Michael was a saint. He was a human being, and as human beings go, there are surely many who are more deserving of our worship, if we must worship mortals, at all.
Submitted by S_G on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 3:00pm.
Submitted by Condi the ingro... on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 2:31pm.
Of course those children aren't Jackson's biological children - they're practically poster children for the Aryan Nation, and no matter how much Jackson carved up his face and bleached his skin, there's no way he could alter his DNA. HIS biological children would have looked more like, say, President Obama, or his brother Jermaine's kids - half black, half white, and as much as he loved to sing about that, he wanted his kids to be pure white. Yeah, sick, I know, but what else is new? That whole vitiligo excuse for his bleached skin was so transparent - why didn't he use DARK makeup to even out his skin tone? He was African-American! As I said, sick.
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Ahhh, another expert with a PHD in what black and mixed race people are supposed to look like.
So many experts..
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I wholeheartedly agree with you S_G! Why is everyone (well not everyone...) why are people acting like they are all geneticists? Even I took genetics and all that crap when I was enroute to getting my Degree and I knew that it's not only a fascinating subject but one that still surprises us to this day. I couldn't say they weren't Michael's children until someone gave me absolute proof. Jeez! coming from a mixed race fam I'm still amazed at what you can get when you throw in all these varying genetic markers to make a human....
This country's obsession with colour is what drives it into the ground sometimes. It's like everyone and their mother suddenly - as you put it - have their PhD...
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Let me tell you . . . having conceived MY children via IVF (my eggs, husband's sperm), I spent alot of time in fertility clinics and I can tell you this much -- there's a whooooole lotta babies out there who dont belong biologically to mommy and/or daddy. People have no idea how many couples end up using donor eggs or sperm.
This situation may seem weird to you but its a lot more common than people think.
Submitted by Condi the ingro... on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 2:31pm.
That whole vitiligo excuse for his bleached skin was so transparent - why didn't he use DARK makeup
to even out his skin tone? He was African-American! As I said, sick.
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His makeup artist said they did that for a long time but as the vitiligo progressed there was much more light skin than dark so she eventually told him it would be easier to just cover the dark spots.
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ok. here's the deal. vitiligo on Blacks basically deplete all dark pigment. There was a special on 20/20 about a black girl with the same condition. It got to the point where all her dark pigment disappeared and she no longer looked "black"...she looked as white - if not whiter than the average pale person...So, applying dark makeup is illogical as it would be impossible to, everyday get up and plaster on such massive amounts of colour. The depigmentation of course does not change the person's original colour/ethnicity - only from the outside....So Condi. your argument is...illogical. Do some research...it might enlighten you. However, I do agree with you (as we all should know) that Michael had issues. I say paedophile you say pop star icon...
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Submitted by Condi the ingro... on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 2:31pm.
Of course those children aren't Jackson's biological children - they're practically poster children for the Aryan Nation, and no matter how much Jackson carved up his face and bleached his skin, there's no way he could alter his DNA. HIS biological children would have looked more like, say, President Obama, or his brother Jermaine's kids - half black, half white, and as much as he loved to sing about that, he wanted his kids to be pure white. Yeah, sick, I know, but what else is new? That whole vitiligo excuse for his bleached skin was so transparent - why didn't he use DARK makeup to even out his skin tone? He was African-American! As I said, sick.
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Ahhh, another expert with a PHD in what black and mixed race people are supposed to look like.
So many experts..
I bet Dlisted JIM was the sperm donor.
And Event Horizon was the EZ Bake Oven.
Submitted by Condi the ingro... on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 2:31pm.
That whole vitiligo excuse for his bleached skin was so transparent - why didn't he use DARK makeup to even out his skin tone? He was African-American! As I said, sick.
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His makeup artist said they did that for a long time but as the vitiligo progressed there was much more light skin than dark so she eventually told him it would be easier to just cover the dark spots.
Did anyone think that MJ's penis got anywhere near an adult woman? Even if he got it in a cup, the minute the drs tried to insert it into a vagina, it would have screamed and jumped for it.
I like the Macaulay Caulkin rumour personally.
I'm just surprised that "Dr" Phil hasn't offered to have the kids on his show and try to 'straighten' out any issues that they might have...oh wait maybe it will happen. He's probably just trying to round up enough cash to pay off Joe.
Does that quack even have a show anymore???
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Island Girl ~ I bet David Crosby is the daddy. He seems to enjoy donating sperm.
Exhibit #1: Melissa Ethridge's kids
Of course those children aren't Jackson's biological children - they're practically poster children for the Aryan Nation, and no matter how much Jackson carved up his face and bleached his skin, there's no way he could alter his DNA. HIS biological children would have looked more like, say, President Obama, or his brother Jermaine's kids - half black, half white, and as much as he loved to sing about that, he wanted his kids to be pure white. Yeah, sick, I know, but what else is new? That whole vitiligo excuse for his bleached skin was so transparent - why didn't he use DARK makeup to even out his skin tone? He was African-American! As I said, sick.
Submitted by islandgirl on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 2:28pm.
Stocky, the kid is not my son. :)
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Stocky, the kid is not my son. :)
Clarisse ~ are you the mom of these kids???
M.E.??? Island Girl???
Okay, I was the sperm donor. I needed the money to post bail one night and....well, the rest you can read in News of the World.
Just for the record on my end, I didn't doubt Michael as the father because he is black, I doubted it because I just don't think they look like him. They have NONE of his features... not his old chin, mouth, eyes... nada.
And yep, black folks can have pretty darn fair kiddos, but I don't see many arguments against that here so it seems to be sort of a non-issue.
Submitted by sparkle586 on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 1:29pm.
Submitted by gia on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 1:16pm.
I wonder if those poor kids are even going to ever find out who their biological parents really are? That is what is so frightening to me.
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Why does that frighten you? There are plenty of baste and bake babies running around the world . . . MJ's are hardly the only ones. Furthermore, plenty of adopted kids do just fine without knowing their bios. Biology is not what makes a parent.
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Yes, I know biology doesnt make a parent, I get that...It frightens me only because I know I would be a wreck if I didnt know who my biological parents were...I would want to know my medical history & basically where I came from in general, I would want to know my heritage, who my people were, what kind of history my family had ...Plus, this isnt just like a standard adoption situation, even though lots of adopted kids do seek out their biological families...this is some freaky shit.
Submitted by angel_i on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 1:32pm.
Submitted by jussayin on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 1:18pm.
"but the kid is not my son...."
LOL obviously white people come from Black people so why so suprised,
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LOL! You just reminded me of the little asian lady at the corner store near me when my baby was a baby. She says to me:
She yo's?
Yes, this is my baby.
Dang! You people could make any kinda behbeh!
Seriously. LOL!
===Holy LOL. Yellow people are such a hoot ain't they?
Submitted by SueCalico on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 1:41pm.
"My little cousin is all the proof I need that a 100% black father and a white mother can produce a child as fair as any white person I've ever met in my life."
Something to keep in mind in this discussion--a lot of American black people are not 100% black. So yes, you can have a person with 1 black parent/1 white parent and the kids look entirely white. Their white ancestry is coming from both parents, not just the white parent.
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Something to keep in mind for the conversation's sake, sure. Being that he's my cousin's fiance and I know him well, I think I would know what he is and what he isn't, and unless there was some mixing going on generations upon generations ago that nobody knows about, the man is 100% black.
As far as it relates to MJ, I really don't care that much and that's why I've not added much to this whole bit. He raised them, he loved them...far as I'm concerned, who gives a fuck if they were biologically his, he was their father.
Submitted by S_G on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 2:12pm.
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Aww. Blanket has some serious sad eyes. Bless the sweet babies.
I love these discussions where people suddenly become experts on race, genetics, black people, mixed race people, and how they are supposed to look.
I'm not saying MJ is the father of the kids, but to say it isn't possible is ignorant.
Check out more recent photos of the kids below. While none of them have very dark skin, it is possible they could be mixed race. Their skin and hair look a lot different from when they were younger. Particularly Blanket. He looks more "traditionally" mixed race...
"Blanket"
http://i35.tinypic.com/29p455z.jpg
http://i18.tinypic.com/526jfp3.jpg
Paris & Prince Michael
http://lh3.ggpht.com/fisherwy/R6NHD0P8JkI/AAAAAAAANO8/_avtlBgLe1c/Michae...
Oh, for Fuck's sake!! I am the biological mother, Michael K is the biological father and Papa Jackson has a record company he'd like to talk to you about! This truly reminds me of the deaths of Princess Diana/JFK Jr.
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"Sailing on the good ship Venus,
by Christ you should have seen us
the figurehead was nude in the bed,
sucking the Captain's penis!!"
I remember more when John Lennon was killed, girls in my school were sobbing etc.
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"This is MK. He started it" angel_i
"When you see crazy coming....cross the street." John Salley
"I just begun too" Teresa Giudice
So his legacy will be a tangled mess of child custody issues? Just let Katherine raise them and tell Joe to shut the fuck up for a change.
Elvis' death was one of my earliest memories. I remember well because the news was on allll day, and my little brain was like, "aren't they gonna show Gilligan's Island?!"
I was a kid when Elvis died, but I thought my older cousin was gonna lose her shit.
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Fucka doodle-do.
Submitted by AmyB on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 1:51pm.
lol I guess they did!!
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If Arnold Klein is the real dad that means "Larry" from Three's Company is their uncle. Good grief, what a mess.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://carriefisher.com/blog/wp-c...
Maybe somebody already posted a better link...but is this the Doc???
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Yep. I've said those are not his kids from day 1, but look at Arnie Klein
http://jeffreybenice.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/13de31401.jpg
then at tmz's pics of Michael's kids. I tend to think those are Klein's kids for sure. There's a pic of Prince II in there too where he has the same slightly crooked smile. Just too close of a resemblance. They don't look like Debbie to me at all.
Hopefully they go to someone who loves them and helps them figure out their genetic makeup just for the sake of medical history. I'd want to know if I had a family history of cancer, etc.
Still skeptical about the Katherine custody situation. We've all seen what a bang up job she's done keeping Joe at bay with her own kids and I have no doubt Joe will exploit the hell out of them. All so very sad.
Submitted by SueCalico on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 1:41pm.
Something to keep in mind in this discussion--a lot of American black people are not 100% black.
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and a lot of american white people are not 100% white.
many people of color (not just black,but native american, mexican/latino. etc) "passed" as white and their descendents never knew.
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have you ever went over a friends house to eat
and the food just aint no good?
i mean the macaroni's soggy, the peas are mushed
and the chicken tastes like wood!
PS: The Village of the Damned child at the top of the pic looks like Chastity Bono when she was a child. You all know what that means????
I'm sure his family & loved one's knew about the molestation that took place behind closed doors at Neverland. Unfortunately, Michael's money was more important to the vapid leeches than a child's welfare.
Fuck me running! Its now being reported that his body will be on display for public viewing at Neverland sometime this week.
Jesus H. Christ.
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I just watched the MK interview and I swear to the Goddess' of Lucite and Cutlets the minute he spoke unicorn kittens followed by rainbow glitter shot out my ass!!!
"My little cousin is all the proof I need that a 100% black father and a white mother can produce a child as fair as any white person I've ever met in my life."
Something to keep in mind in this discussion--a lot of American black people are not 100% black. So yes, you can have a person with 1 black parent/1 white parent and the kids look entirely white. Their white ancestry is coming from both parents, not just the white parent.
Black people know this. Why do you think, in black families, you sometimes have kids with a range of skin colors?
That said, I don't believe for a minute those are Michael Jackson's biological kids.
Submitted by snowpiece on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 1:36pm.
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO At angel ahahahahha
once in DR at the airport they didn't want to let me leave with my niece, they took us in a little room and questioned us for about an hour because they did not believe she was my niece. ha ha
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Skeery! I hope they felt like assholes after;p
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Submitted by OXA on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 1:33pm.
Liza Minneli did say,all hell will break lose.
Yep. & what disturbs me is the depth to which others knew him. If there was child abuse (& I personally believe there was) & those that knew him best knew about it, it is inexcusable that they didn't step in to help innocent children.
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"So? I'm intellectual and stuff."
"You're flunking English. That's your mother tongue, and stuff."
ELVIS TIME BITCHES!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ogbx37hCpU
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Madolyn: What do you expect coming in here?
Billy Costigan: I have to come here.
Madolyn: I know you have to come here, but now that you're here, what do you want?
Billy Costigan: You want the truth? Valium.
LOL angel, I know that NOW, but I am saying how I remember him from my childhood
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"This is MK. He started it" angel_i
"When you see crazy coming....cross the street." John Salley
"I just begun too" Teresa Giudice
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO At angel ahahahahha
once in DR at the airport they didn't want to let me leave with my niece, they took us in a little room and questioned us for about an hour because they did not believe she was my niece. ha ha
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"This is MK. He started it" angel_i
"When you see crazy coming....cross the street." John Salley
"I just begun too" Teresa Giudice
Submitted by snowpiece on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 1:30pm.
I remember Elvis as some fat weird old guy that died when I was a kid and everyone freaked out.
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LOL! If you really wanna get it, go find one of his first movies...he was hot.
♥ Threadkilla!
It's "FACEBOOK" not "ASSBOOK" ~ Bart Simpson's lines, Season 20
Liza Minneli did say,all hell will break lose.
not for everyone skinnyfat. I was a kid during his heyday, and fuck, Europeans loved him for some reasons unknown. I only have, and always will, remember MJ as a child abusing freak. Someone nailed it--people are mourning their childhoods, not a washed up pop star who hasn't been relevant for over 15 years.
For those kids sake, the farther they can get away from anyone named Jackson, the fucking better.
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Interviewer: You're playing one of the most famous characters in movie history. How come we don't see you in all the tabloids?
Daniel Craig: Because I don't want to be in them.
Submitted by jussayin on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 1:18pm.
"but the kid is not my son...."
LOL obviously white people come from Black people so why so suprised,
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LOL! You just reminded me of the little asian lady at the corner store near me when my baby was a baby. She says to me:
She yo's?
Yes, this is my baby.
Dang! You people could make any kinda behbeh!
Seriously. LOL!
♥ Threadkilla!
It's "FACEBOOK" not "ASSBOOK" ~ Bart Simpson's lines, Season 20
-"Submitted by skinny fat on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 1:25pm."
Sigh. Sure, for YOU that holds true. To each its own.
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I remember Elvis as some fat weird old guy that died when I was a kid and everyone freaked out.
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"This is MK. He started it" angel_i
"When you see crazy coming....cross the street." John Salley
"I just begun too" Teresa Giudice
Submitted by gia on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 1:16pm.
I wonder if those poor kids are even going to ever find out who their biological parents really are? That is what is so frightening to me.
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Why does that frighten you? There are plenty of baste and bake babies running around the world . . . MJ's are hardly the only ones. Furthermore, plenty of adopted kids do just fine without knowing their bios. Biology is not what makes a parent.
Submitted by rotten_egg on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 1:20pm.
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MJ will be remembered for his talent first just like Elvis. the rest is bullshit.
-"Submitted by skinny fat on Tue, 06/30/2009 - 1:13pm."
Momma, don't preach!. I haven't even said ANYTHING about his talent. Ever. I have critizised his overall mental health and his fucked-up lifestyle.
His "talent" is not an excuse and it will NEVER erase the fact that he was such a fucking weirdo.
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-"I am not about to deal with unstable people" - HEART ANGELINA.
i agree there is no question Michael was the father of those children. he raised them from infancy and he is their father and i'm sure he loved them and took care of them.