There Goes Joe Jackson's Pimp Hand

Picasso's dislike of women was apparent in his work.

Oh, most assuredly whack, Missy! Truly FUBAR. I won't even attend anything she's in. It would not surprise me if she whipped out an uzi & massacred the audience if they didn't adore her. I'd call her our own little Norma Desmond, but I don't want to make her that legendary.
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"So? I'm intellectual and stuff."
"You're flunking English. That's your mother tongue, and stuff."

Submitted by HottieBoomBottie on Fri, 07/10/2009 - 2:34pm.
This may be a dumb question, but are Papa Joe & Katherine still married?? Anyone?

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from what I gather from this thread, they are married but have been separated for over ten years.

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Submitted by ricki lake on Fri, 07/10/2009 - 1:59pm.

You remind me of Pigez Hilton!

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drama, the situation you describe is different to me than being able to appreciate what MJ has done for music with out having to simultaneously taint that by focusing on his actions.

I'm thinking of miles davis, picasso, diego rivera.... artists who were sexist, abusive and addicted, but whats the justice in ignoring "Kind of Blue" just because Miles was a crappy father?

I guess Im separating the art from the artist. Art is god like and its gift is eternal. Man is mortal and weak. That bitch in your theater just sounds whack. ;)
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I can definitely separate the MJ of music and dance, from MJ the man.

Though I may not agree with his lifestyle, his talent and contributions to music and dance are undeniable.

Submitted by ricki lake on Fri, 07/10/2009 - 1:59pm.

scuse me, but don't you sometimes refer to us straight gals as 'breeders'? how is that any different? and if i say- go suck a cock- to a straight girl, is that totally different than telling you to go lick buttholes??

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"So? I'm intellectual and stuff."
"You're flunking English. That's your mother tongue, and stuff."

This may be a dumb question, but are Papa Joe & Katherine still married?? Anyone?

Submitted by rareflower on Fri, 07/10/2009 - 2:25pm.

So is it simply a question of whether you're good enough at your job? I used to do theatre. I know a lot of artsy people. A lot of them are fucked up. One of them was recently banned from a professional theatre here for pulling a gun on someone who broke up with her. She still gets work. I don't get that. She is talented (not enough for people to put up with the crazy, IMHO, but obviously others disagree with me). So that makes all her antics (the gun was only one of many) okay? Or okay to be overlooked because she can play the part? Doesn't work in my world, which is probably why I'm not doing it anymore. I saw a lot of fucked up shit. I could have gone down many paths, & I'm glad I chose the one I did.
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"So? I'm intellectual and stuff."
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Submitted by missy on Fri, 07/10/2009 - 2:28pm.

rareflower, my opinion is art should NOT be overshadowed by the actions of the artists. If it were, countless masterpieces would be overlooked.
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My position as well.

rareflower, my opinion is art should NOT be overshadowed by the actions of the artists. If it were, countless masterpieces would be overlooked.

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DQ! Stoney! *muah*

MJ was NOT a good father; good fathers don't use every drug known to mankind, and have their children brought up by nannies. Period.

Papa/missy and dramaqueen

If people think MJ’s personal life should over shadow his work, then can we have a look at Charles Lutwidge Dodgson better known by the pen name Lewis Carroll. His most famous writings are Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and its sequel Through the Looking-Glass, who had rumours about him being a paedophile? Overtime this has been pushed brushed over and his work is celebrated.

Suggestions of paedophilia

Dodgson's friendships with young girls, together with his perceived lack of interest in romantic attachments to adult women, and psychological readings of his work—especially his photographs of nude or semi-nude girls[35]—have all led to speculation that he was a paedophile. This possibility has underpinned numerous modern interpretations of his life and work, particularly Dennis Potter's play Alice and his screenplay for the motion picture, Dreamchild, and even more importantly Robert Wilson's Alice, and a number of recent biographies, including Michael Bakewell's Lewis Carroll: A Biography (1996), Donald Thomas's Lewis Carroll: A Portrait with Background (1995) and Morton N. Cohen's Lewis Carroll: A Biography (1995). All of these works more or less unequivocally assume that Dodgson was a paedophile, albeit a repressed and celibate one.
Cohen claims Dodgson's "sexual energies sought unconventional outlets", and further writes:

We cannot know to what extent sexual urges lay behind Charles's preference for drawing and photographing children in the nude. He contended the preference was entirely aesthetic. But given his emotional attachment to children as well as his aesthetic appreciation of their forms, his assertion that his interest was strictly artistic is naive. He probably felt more than he dared acknowledge, even to himself.[35]

Thank you, loco.

Ok, off the bank. Sorry, ricki.

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trolls contribute nothing, and seek only attention and to make the thread about them. Bullies do nothing but ride other's asses and make personal insults, and intentionally make others uncomfortable and unwilling to share their opinions. Although I disagree with Stoney a good deal of the time, she does neither. With all the other fucktards who have been posting recently, people could find better targets. Stoney, even if you don't like what she says, contributes something to the discourse.

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I just wrote a whole treatise on how this bastard fucked up his kids in COLLUSION with his wife.

Fuck them both, Katherine and Bloe.

Papa & Missy: I do see your points. It's just so GD hard for me to comprehend. I've long thought it must be the bane of many artists' existences -- that their personal life is on display for the world to see. I have no idea what goes on in my boss' life, & that's just fine with me. I know him in a work relationship, & my feelings about him are only related to the job he does. I don't know if I'm a big enough person to separate the personal & professional.

All that said, I absolutely agree that MJ was an incredibly talented musician who changed the face of pop music. That can never be taken away from him.

I need to have a sit down w/ Corey Feldman. LOL
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Submitted by Lovers Keep On ... on Fri, 07/10/2009 - 2:02pm.

@shandiRW

When she went to court I believe in 2005 to get custody of them...they threw a little more cash her way so she went away again. I don't know what kind of human being would do that to children that they carried for nine months
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Let’s not forget what she said back in 2003>>>

Apparently Debbie never really wanted to get pregnant with both Prince Michael and Paris. She did it because Michael had the desire to be a father.

An 2003 interview Debbie had with Us Weekly has just surfaced, which may ruin her chances of getting custody of the children for good. Debbie still plans on fighting for custody of Michael’s children, when the case goes to court on July 13th.

But what she told Us Weekly six years ago didn’t sound like a woman who is aching for her children. She said in the interview, "Parenting is an art; you earn the title. Because you give birth and impregnate someone does not automatically give you the title of mother or father – you earn the title.”

"My kids don’t call me mom because I don’t want them to. They are Michael’s children. It’s not that they’re not my children, but I had them because I wanted him to be a father."

I don't see what the big deal is. I mean, what could possibly go wrong?!

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Fuck Susan Boyle!!!!!

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Submitted by rareflower on Fri, 07/10/2009 - 1:58pm.

o man he already did sell it to sony...that fucking sux.

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BTW, I think stoney and ricky will kiss and make up soon enough, as soon as they remember their mutual hate for SuBo and their collaborative plotting of my demise due to me voting for SuBo for HSOTM ;)

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Yeah, I'm such a homophobe. I hate gays so much I wrote to my congressman in support of gay marriage. Sorry I'm not actually gay myself. Apparently that's the only way you would believe me. I called you a queen because you're acting like one! Queen. Oh woops, I'm sorry. You're gay so you're exempt from criticism.

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I think it's sick how Jermaine married Randy's ex-wife and had two kids with her.

Submitted by ricki lake on Fri, 07/10/2009 - 1:59pm.

Now you're really killing it, honey. Trust me when I say there are a ton of other whores around here that are thinking you're spot on. They just know not to get in a fight with those bitches because it will just stain their Hanes Her Way XXXXXXL's and cause a big blowup of self righteous doodoo.

Submitted by TexnDoc on Fri, 07/10/2009 - 1:46pm.
These kids will all grow up knowing they were created in the lab to be exploited from Day 1. By whom and who next doesn't matter. If CPS had a brain in it's head they'd be declared orphans and shipped with their money to a Switzerland private school.

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Actually, that would be a great idea!! ITA!!

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@shandiRW

When she went to court I believe in 2005 to get custody of them...they threw a little more cash her way so she went away again. I don't know what kind of human being would do that to children that they carried for nine months.

Sorry, had to come back. LOL

missy/rickilake - I forgot to say sorry to hear about what you had to go through. xo

moving on...

Submitted by Lovers Keep On ... on Fri, 07/10/2009 - 1:56pm.
I think it's sad to think their own mother sold them out not once, but twice for a little cash money.
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that's sad :( how were they sold the second time?

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I love how the Mom Squad here likes to "innocently" laugh about the gays and make themselves feel all cuddly-special inside because they go to a GAY blog so they have something to joke about with their fellow hill people at the Bug Cuddle, Alabama fall social and can pat themselves on the back for being so 'open-minded,' yet the second they get into a fight with an actual gay person the first things out of their mouths are "Go lick buttholes!" and "Bitter Queen!" Ok. Maybe I should "Report Abuse" and e-mail MK 50 times. Oh wait, I'm not you or M.E. Never mind.

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Submitted by M.E. on Fri, 07/10/2009 - 1:45pm.
Missy - I heard that he left the Beatles catelog to Paul McCartney

Not too sure about this but i think McCartney bought 50% of the catalog from MJ. And now SONY music wants MJ's debts paid back to them through the other 50% of the catalog. I think.
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Actually it is not correct, MJ sold half to Sony Records and kept the other 50%.
Also . Sir Paul McCartney has responded to the rumours via his own website:
http://paulmccartney.com/news.php#/1674/2009-07

For The Record - Message From Paul
Some time ago, the media came up with the idea that Michael Jackson was going to leave his share in the Beatles songs to me in his will which was completely made up and something I didn’t believe for a second.

Now the report is that I am devastated to find that he didn’t leave the songs to me. This is completely untrue. I had not thought for one minute that the original report was true and therefore, the report that I’m devastated is also totally false, so don’t believe everything you read folks!

In fact, though Michael and I drifted apart over the years, we never really fell out, and I have fond memories of our time together.

At times like this, the press do tend to make things up, so occasionally, I feel the need to put the record straight.

Paul

"Sorry, I have to disagree. I still maintain that had Katherine been there for him thru thick & thin, he would not have been so traumatized.

While I realize that the charges were never founded, I take the opposite stance as well. I think it's a shame that someone who had so much to offer the world of music conducted his personal life in such a disgusting manner. (If the allegations were true.) & (again, if true) I think they SHOULD overshadow the other stuff. Isn't that one of the reasons so many have problems with celebrities getting away with things us mere mortals wouldn't? Because, regardless of who you are, if you live in this world, you should be held to the same standard as everyone else?

I'm really not trying to be a bitch -- I'm trying to discuss this objectively."

Oh, I know you're not trying to be a "bitch." Discussions are healthy.

But back in the day, it was frowned upon for someone to divorce. Hell, my grandparents were miserable together, but once my grandma died, I believe my Grandpa found an appreciation for her. The stuff she did, etc., etc. Women didn't have a place in the household back in the early 20th Century, other than doing the cooking, cleaning, making and raising babies. She didn't have much say. I'm sure she saw a lot of abuse; I'm not saying she didn't, but back in the day, women were told they had to please the man and do what they say. And sadly, many women today still do fall in that same category.

Now, we as Americans can sometimes forgive people for what happened in their personal life. Hell, look at R. Kelly.

I'm not saying that if he did what he was accused of isn't wrong, I'm saying that if it WERE true he had to live with that guilt his whole life. Not us. We weren't the ones that did it to the kid/kids.

MJ had a horrible life. And I think him building Neverland and having kids to come over was a way for him to relieve the childhood he never had. You gotta think of it from a mental standpoint - the guy was not all there. But he did a lot for society and for music, including being one of the biggest contributors to charity. Love him or hate him, you gotta respect the man for the things he did for society, music and entertainment.
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Yeah, it's hard to imagine he could be at all lucid enough to care for children if he were taking that amount of anything. On the other hand, idk if I would speak so fondly of a parent if he were zonked out all the time...maybe he was somehow able to function fairly normally despite the drug abuse? Idk. The whole thing is just sad.

Shandi> I think they are biracial. They look olive-complected to me. Have you ever seen Victoria Rowell's daughter? Blonde hair, blue eyes.

http://thestudyofracialism.org/forum/bpwk/rowell.jpg

I think it's sad to think their own mother sold them out not once, but twice for a little cash money.

Anyone ever seen Joe Jackson and Papa Joe Simpson in the same room at the same time ??

What a scumbag. Just his pic alone makes
my skin crawl. God help those poor children.

drama, I like this discussion:

While I realize that the charges were never founded, I take the opposite stance as well. I think it's a shame that someone who had so much to offer the world of music conducted his personal life in such a disgusting manner. (If the allegations were true.) & (again, if true) I think they SHOULD overshadow the other stuff. Isn't that one of the reasons so many have problems with celebrities getting away with things us mere mortals wouldn't? Because, regardless of who you are, if you live in this world, you should be held to the same standard as everyone else?

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I feel that if the art is great, let it speak for itself and never taint it by associating it with the unscrupulous actions of its creator.

So many matrepieces have been created by people who were abusive, addicted, etc. But art is always pure in its beauty. We would be robbed of many great creations if we dismissed art in accordance with our moral judgements of the artist.

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HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAH!!!!

Right, coming from the ultimate attention whore. Every single time you appear on this site you get into a fight with someone. Go play with kids your own age, queen.

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okay, educate me these children aren't really mjs kids, right? i mean paris and the other one look full on white kids. blanket looks like maybe he's part black. would'n't the other two of had to have hereditary traits as far as their father was concerned and even talent wise (i know you could be born with a natural talent but genes help- artistically, otherwise). i dunno, *head explodes*

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Submitted by sassybritches on Fri, 07/10/2009 - 1:47pm.
somebody needs to take out his tongue and whip him with it! i am not the praying kind (God just laughs at my requests) but i am on my knees begging for...get your mind outta there!...begging that joe jackson gets struck down before he can damage the next generation of jacksons.

Latoilet, Janet and Katherine were seen taking stuff out of the rented mansion a few days after MJ Died. It was repoerted that Katherine took a flat screen tv. Latoilet and Janet took out bags of stuff. I hope some bags were drugs and they use em to take out Joe.

thanks ME, Deb and Provvy :)

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BTW - Two Rainy Nights: Live in Seattle & Portland is REALLY good
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Thanks moomarse! I'll definitely check it out!

One of my favorite JJ lines: "Pretty women out walking with gorillas down my street"

I know just how he feels...

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Haha, Stoney, there's a large area between "intellectual discourse" and "dumbass crackwhore speak." You'd probably be a lot more tolerable if you didn't think everything you said deserved to be craved in fucking stone for the ages. We get it, you're a victim, "it's trendy to fight with you" because you know what is up, blah blah blah. No bitch, you just a dumb ho with no power in real life trying to exert your superiority. No one cares. And you're the one that turned the "Kill Joe Jackson!" thread into the bleeding-heart Save the Children infomercial, so don't fucking tell me what Dlisted is for. Hint: It ain't "The Stoney Show." Stop pretending like you're goddamn Oprah with your sage little "witticisms," 'cause no one's buyin' it but your 2 online BFFs who are equally deluded and uninformed.

Submitted by Stoney on Fri, 07/10/2009 - 1:43pm.

Reading your comments is like taking a cheese grater to the brain. You seem like a hormonal nightmare.

Submitted by M.E. on Fri, 07/10/2009 - 1:45pm.
Missy - I heard that he left the Beatles catelog to Paul McCartney

Not too sure about this but i think McCartney bought 50% of the catalog from MJ. And now SONY music wants MJ's debts paid back to them through the other 50% of the catalog. I think.

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Submitted by Lovers Keep On ... on Fri, 07/10/2009 - 1:37pm.

@Morbidosity

Yeah, Janet has a little bit of extra junk in the trunk, but she seems sweet so I don't make fun of her. I just think Janet is the best person to take them because she is estimated to be worth $150 million so she wouldn't be after their money and the way Paris and Blanket were hanging on her at the memorial showed they feel safe with her. I also read that she was "horrified" with her father with the way he acted at the BET awards.
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This is where we will just have to agree to disagree. I think Janet has the freak family gene as well. She was raised in an abusive home, played an abused child on Good Times, had a marriage and hid it, supposedly has a secret child. The children cling to her, but really what else do they know? They were afterall raised by MJ. But if it were between her and ma and paw Jackson, I would have to go with her.

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okie would have all the answers to your questions

OKIE COME BACK!!!!!
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somebody needs to take out his tongue and whip him with it! i am not the praying kind (God just laughs at my requests) but i am on my knees begging for...get your mind outta there!...begging that joe jackson gets struck down before he can damage the next generation of jacksons.