Tuesday, July 28th 2009

Dr. Murray Might Be In Trouble

The L.A. coroner's official toxicology report on Michael Jackson is due any day now and it may be what investigators need to charge his personal doctor, Dr. Conrad Murray, with manslaughter. Dr. Murray has been the focus of a manslaughter investigation, because investigators believe that he's the one who gave Michael Jackson the deadly dose of Propofol. The police believe this, because apparently, Dr. Dumb Fuck admitted it two days after Michael's death. That's what TMZ claims anyway.

An LAPD source told them that Dr. Murray regularly gave Michael Propofol to help him sleep. And I thought I was hardcore by taking a Tylenol PM with a shot of whiskey to help me go off to dreamland.

The day Michael died, Dr. Murray gave him an IV drip of the powerful anesthesia. Dr. Murray did it without monitoring Michael by an EKG which apparently is a huge no-no in the medical community. The police source went on to say that they believe Dr. Murray even took a little nap while administering the drug. When he woke up, Michael was already dead from heart failure.

LAWD! Did Dr. Murray buy his license from the internet? I bet he graduated first in his class from Dr. Sandeep Kapoor's School of Medicine.

Dude is fucked. Hopefully.

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What's getting him in the most trouble is the time delay. Obviously instead of calling 911 immediately he took time to remove evidence. MJ was dead for a while but it's clear the doc didn't mean to kill him otherwise he would have signed the death certificate and eliminated the need for an autopsy. Plus apparently he was distraught trying to bring him back.This man is just a simple idiot who just ruined his life and will forever be known as the killer of the world's greatest entertainer...sucker! Buh bye...hope they put him in with the Thriller dance prisoners and make him Ola Ray!

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But someone said he is searching someone on the famous rich men seeking passion site !!!.sugarscupid. c o m. there are some of his hot pictures.. joke or not?

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Sugarfree, with that I fully agree.

One thing though:
The Mooh-fuck was likely only executing the kill, not doing it for fun or being a clumsy dumbass.

If the butcher got 150 000 green for 1 month of outstanding doctor job - JUNE that is, I think he was not to check on MJ's stool there.

The shows would never happen in full. MJ's name was used up to sell the tickets.

The doc had a clear job description moving into the house.

I don't think it was his retarded doctorness.

A dumb med would not score to work for the King of Pop and be paid that much fat.

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#1: Sure, there were other doctors before this one, but MJ still woke up. Not this time and not with this doc. That's why he's not a scapegoat.

#2: If everyone agrees it's 50/50 responsiblity, well then MJ paid the price. He's dead. Now it's time for his accomplice to answer for his actions.

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rotten egg, yeah and NO.

Hard-core addiction usually has a locked door, unless there's someone there to help you get out.
That Fuck-Murray was there to help the man pull it together.

No way it's a 50/50 battle.

Michael was an addict and the doc was a sober pro who was paid a BIG BUCK to save the guy from killing himself.

PLUS you should know that addicts don't make sense when they demand 'stuff'.

Michael is dead and would he be dead if not for this doc or any other? NO

Why? Because of the law - that shit is prescriptive and otherwise ILLEGAL.

MJ would not have gotten and injected the anesthesia himself, if anything because he'd probably not want NOT to wake up to his kids.

Murray was hired to save Michael.

OR hired to kill.

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they believe Dr. Murray even took a little nap while administering the drug.
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I was a die hard MJ fan as a kid, I lost interest as I grew up, I still think he was immensely talented and better than Elvis.
That said, while the Doctor is obviously a crook and his dad was a jerk, but MJ was 50 years old and wasn't a stupid person by any means. He appears to behaved like typical drug addict who did what he could to procure his fixes.
Dr. Murray was greedy, he fucked up and now he's going to get crucified, paying the price for ALL THE OTHER DOCTORS that hooked MJ up too.
Joe Jackson comes off as a monster. I'm sure in his own fucked up way, he thought he was doing what's best for his kids and now he's just a sad, doddering old man who's son just died. It's probably humiliating to have the press crucify you for mistakes you've made with your kids, not giving a thought to where you might have come from.
MJ was a grown man who could have sought therapy or healthy alternatives to drugs. There are people from war torn countries who fare better, people need to get a grip and stop painting MJ as such complete victim.

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Submitted by rotten_egg on Tue, 07/28/2009 - 2:35pm.
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Totally agree!!!

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I live in L.A. and I've had to SEARCH for doctors who are NOT corrupt and out for more money. Surprisingly, I've had worst experiences with dentists and optometrists. I had this sick fucker doing a horrible root canal on me (badly anestheticized, I could feel everything) and he was yapping the whole time about Paris Hilton, and how Jessica Simpson used to live nearby, and how he whitened the teeth of Stevie Wonder's wife, and would I be interested in some Botox after he's done fucking me with a drill. I was like, FUCK IT I am going to use that drill on your asshole you piece of shit!! (He also lied about how much my insurance would cover and charged me a fortune for a bad job, of course.)

Sorry but the doctors here are FUCKED UP and I wish someone would do something about it. This guy should get fucked just to show an example, sorry dude.

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it could have been any doctor

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It's been reported that the family did try an intervention. As anyone whose had a relative/friend addicted to drugs knows, it's easier said than done. I do agree about the shared responsiblity, but in my opinion the scale tips a little bit more towards the licensed doctor.

Not to get all sappy, but I think MJ died from a broken heart ultimately. That last trial did a number on him and was more like an assassination. Many people failed him in his life and in the end, a person can only take so much.

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That's what I said. This doctor SHOULD be punished for his lack of ethics, but NOT be COMPLETELY HELD RESPONSIBLE for Michael Jackson's death as if he MADE Jackson take heavy drugs using a shotgun . It was 50/50. The doctor did his 50% blame and Michael Jackson did the other 50%. I didn't say the doctor was not to blame, but so many people are trying to make him a scapegoat (as someone else said it right) to carry the full burden, specially the Jackson family and all for the dollar signs. They should be the ones ashamed for the way they let a close family member die that way, but they turned a blind eye for years and now that he is dead and they are getting media coverage, they are yelling fowl play. I wonder where were they when their "beloved" Michael Jackson was abusing prescription drugs and employing shady nurses and doctors and YES people to drug him into oblivion.

And you people will have to keep up with people still saying "if it wasn't this doctor, it would have been any other doctor"; and want to know why? because it's true. You people act like you have never heard of bad doctors, corrupt doctors, unethical doctors. They are EVERYWHERE.

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Submitted by Jessica_Wakefield on Tue, 07/28/2009 - 11:08am.
I have had propofol many times before. That's what they give you when you do colonoscopies and stuff like that. It's a scary ass drug because it doesn't really put you to sleep. But in a way you ARE alseep. You're kind of drifting along on a cloud not really knowing what the fuck is going on. But at the same time you are sort of alert. And when it wears off you feel like you've been asleep. When actually, you sort of..... wasn't asleep.

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Its called twilight sleep. I also had it when I did a colonoscopy and you're right, its the weirdest shit. I didnt know thats the drug they use though. Interesting.

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Submitted by rotten_egg on Tue, 07/28/2009 - 12:32pm.
To me, both the shady doctor and Michael Jackson are to blame. Just because saintly Michael is dead, it doesn't mean he was not responsible for his own damn actions.

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I totally agree...but I'm just over pple saying well if it wasn't this doctor, it would have been the next. Well, then let it be the next - not an excuse for you to jump in and do the deed. We all know it IS done but it shouldn't be and this is why he needs his ass handed to him.

Sure MJ was no saint and of course has responsibility b/c it was his doing that he got hooked on all the shit...but it does not absolve people from doing the thing that they are bound to do if not by their job/position, then by their own ethics/morals. A doc doesn't have to be saintly to simply follow a code of ethics and decency.

MJ very well might have met his end in a similar way, but the fact is, he did not. If he had OD'd on heroin, or even an overdose of oxycontin or whatever, it'd be a different story. But that's just not what it seems happened here.

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Im amazed at the comments about a doctor not giving you what you want. You pay the office visit and you can get a prescription. EASY PEASY JAPANESEY. There are lots of doctors who write for pay.

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I'm so tired of hearing that if it wasn't this doctor, then some other unethical doctor would've supplied the drugs. Maybe docs are so willing to be unethical because they know that criminally they will get off scot-free.

It sucks for Dr. Shithead to be made an example, but that's what he is. You guys are the gatekeepers. You have the drugs that lots of addicts drool to have access to. BUT YOU CAN SAY NO! It may not stop someone whose intent, but it will make it damn tough to get 'em.

I am not excusing MJ but one thing has nothing to do with the other. We all WANT something or other, but trained professionals are there to monitor what we NEED.

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Dr. Dumbass could have hired any nurse willing to work on the low (we ARE talking about L.A.) for a few night shifts a month to monitor MJ while he was half dead from Propofol. I mean, there are a lot of nurses who would watch over him better than that knuckle head who made 100K per month just to give MJ whatever he wanted. Too bad he didn't spend his money on a monitor and someone trained to be vigilant.

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He's going to get off easy and would have been stoned or hanged in public if he were not........well, figure it out.

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To me, both the shady doctor and Michael Jackson are to blame. Just because saintly Michael is dead, it doesn't mean he was not responsible for his own damn actions. I agree with the ones who have said that if it wasn't Dr. klein who supplied Jackson with heavy drugs, it would have been ANYONE else. Michael Jackson and his enablers would flip every rock on the ground until they find the kind of YES doctor they needed. Sadly, doctors are not saintly-pure creatures trained to unselfishly save human lives. There are many MANY unethical doctors out there. Either way, Jackson was such a hardcore junkie, his death was only a matter of time.

Blaming this doctor for his irresponsible actions is OK, shady doctors should be jailed. But also, people should stop trying to blame ANYBODY else for Jackson's fucked up lifestyle and stupid decisions. He was fucking 50 years old, he wasn't a manipulable teenager. He's as guilty as his enablers. The Jackson family and Michael Jackson's enablers are looking for a ludicrous story to cover up the real shady story, just like David Carradine's family. Of course the story of "an evil unethical doctor administering a powerful anesthetic drug to Michael Jackson to kill him" sounds much better than "Michael Jackson was a damn junkie who made sure to employ the most unethical people to supply him with whatever drugs/crap he needed and nobody close to him gave a shit about him because the money kept on rolling". Fuck it.

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Holy fuckin Cow! My doc looks like a hippy and seems like he's high, but he would NEVER give me drugs that I just "wanted". How LOW of a doc to you have to be to give life-endangering drugs to someone because they PAYED YOU for it?!?!?!?!

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they should also arrest all the plastic surgeons who agreed to do all that stuff to mj's face...

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Yes, he's a shit of a Dr. but Jesus Christ, how fucking whacked out was MJ? He probably shopped for the lowest common denominator who could score him drugs he shouldn't be using. No self-respecting Dr. would capitulate to a drug-abuser that was MJ. I mean, he went under for acne surgery and used this shit just to sleep?

The sad thing is because he got what he wanted, there will probably be overregulation of this drug.

Sure, I blame the Dr. but ultimately the blame lies on the drug abuser that had henchmen intimidate dentists for Christ sakes.

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Yep, i guess there are ways of killing yourself without killing yourself.

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Submitted by sugar free on Tue, 07/28/2009 - 11:22am.

I think it's been many years since MJ felt any pain...

Demerol works like that.

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Submitted by Jessica_Wakefield on Tue, 07/28/2009 - 11:08am.
I have had propofol many times before....You're kind of drifting along on a cloud not really knowing what the fuck is going on. But at the same time you are sort of alert.
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I've never taken it but I'm curious to know if you are sort of alert, could you know that something was wrong and your heart is shutting down? Are you like paralyzed to call our or anything? I guess I'm just hoping that MJ drifted off into sleep w/o feeling pain.

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Breaking News - a search warrant has been issued for Dr. Asshole at his Las Vegas home! Ahaha, face the music, Dr. Shithead LOOOSER!!!!
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There is a lot of talk about prescription med abuse and how even though the docs are "enablers", it's the addict to blame. First, that's no excuse for these docs. They took an oath and violated it for money. For the most part, there would be no addiction here if these drugs were not so readily available. Who makes them so? The docs.

Second, this is NOT a prescription drug/controlled substance he was given because there is NO reason to EVER prescribe it. Used in hospitals for anesthetic purposes. Period. That's it. This guy 1)took it out of the hospital, 2) gave it to him for "sleep" or other unauthorized use and 3)apparently didn't monitor him. This is NOT enabler. This is a criminal.

An addict can beg, plead, threaten to get a drug like this, but addicts will do that. Docs are paid and trained to know better. They are not supposed to go by what the addict demands but by what THEY know to be right. Murray is NOT some random crack dealer MJ rambled down the street to. This guy took deliberate advantage of someone in severe psychological and probably physical pain. For $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Absolutely sickening.

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Oh please, MJ was demanding drugs, he was an addict.
But fine, send this Dr. to jail, revoke his license, and so on.

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I have had propofol many times before. That's what they give you when you do colonoscopies and stuff like that. It's a scary ass drug because it doesn't really put you to sleep. But in a way you ARE alseep. You're kind of drifting along on a cloud not really knowing what the fuck is going on. But at the same time you are sort of alert. And when it wears off you feel like you've been asleep. When actually, you sort of..... wasn't asleep.

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Such a difference between UNCONSCIOUS and ASLEEP. Good, restorative sleep. And if you need an IV drip in your bedroom, you are a poor example as a human and a father.

And yes, Dr. Strangedrug should be arrested.

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thats seriously fucked up he's not even an anasthesiologist(sp) whatever those ppl who are LICENSED to put ur ass to sleep he's just a regular doctor butit's they are both dumb fucks sorry him for giving and and m.j. for taking it

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His last name is Klein?
Is he Sephardic?

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How the hell did this ass monkey keep his medical license?

Jesus. Fucking addicts and their GD enablers. HKS? Are you listening??? Where the fuck is the manslaughter charges for that fucking leech?

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While they're at it, they should also arrest MJ's plastic surgeon and dermatologist. They should've got his ass into therapy when he asked for more procedures.

But why chop down the money tree if you're cashing in, right? Despicable.

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Wake me up when they arrest that slurring pilled up narcissistic hack, Dr. Klein.

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What a remarkable team, show ya teeth...

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Junkies and their enablers are SO FUCKING ANNOYING AND TIRESOME

I'll burn that bridge when I come to it....

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Oh this cat? He was Dr. Nick's roommate at Hollywood Upstairs Medical College.

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Submitted by Grace Disful on Tue, 07/28/2009 - 8:43am.

Hah! And here we all thought he slept in an oxygen chamber--

http://gossip.commongate.com/post/creepy_as_hell/

Shows what we knew!

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He staged those pictures to coincide with a sci-fi movie he was doing. Unfortunately it started the trend of people thinking he was weird.

I think any doc who does what Murray did should be convicted, not just b/c if the fact that the victim was MJ. Prescription med abuse is huge and these docs are the ones who pass them around like candy.

I have always been an MJ fan, but I do agree he became a shell of himself towards the end. His story is a sad one. People can blame his family, but he was his own man and always got what he wanted and didn't know anything else. As much as I wish this all didn't happen, it seems inevitable. He just had to much fame and power to follow the rules. That is bad news for an addict who is in a lot of emotional pain.

How many times a day do I read here "...but he's rich", "well he's rich, so...", "he's rich, and takes good care of people he likes, and who are willing not to call him out on his shit, so...", "well he's got money, and..."?

Yeah, and... so? So fucking what. So MJ was a junkie willing to pay to hear and to get what he wanted, that's what. So Graydog is fat, and his meatloaf sucks, that's what.

So that's the attitude that killed MJ, that's what.

And: The Daily Mail is no worse a news source than 99% of newspapers published today. I've been around the newspaper business my entire life, and I know what I'm talking about when I say that. It's written for a certain audience, but its standards and creditials are no less than those followed by any other newspaper. I grew up knowing Howell Raines. I wouldn't buy a banana from him without checking into it first, much fucking less the fucking news.

The doc's a whore who had a little extra bad luck, that's all. Probably should have lost his license a while ago. Doc's dad had a record of carelessly over-prescribing pain meds too, just like good old Connie here. MJ, or MJ's people - who cares unless they will charged also - found who and what they needed and wanted in Dr. Murray. If you find someone willing to do what Murray was obviously willing to do, you've bought yourself a shitty fucking excuse for a doctor.

What else would one expect? Not likely someone's going be at the top of his profession, and yet somehow be impressed enough by the money and fame of Michael Junkie Jackson to close up shop and administer IV drips of controlled substances - in a rented mansionette not even equipped with telefuckingphones - to some dude whose body was already ravaged by his various addictions and disorders, now is it?

Dude should lose his license, and might serve time for involuntary manslaughter, but it's not murder per se because Murray did not intend to kill him... unless he's the serial killer O.J. and Robert Blake have been hunting for all of these years, and the bitch who shot Lana Clarkson.

La Toya, go away. You should have been runinng your stupid ho mouth when MJ was alive. Not that I really give a damn.

But murder? Not. You stupid bitch. Shut the fuck up, La Toya, and find some real work so you can pay back the state of California for that stupid circus you called a funeral.

And Murray did show up at the hospital with the family, pretty much immediately behind the ambulance, so it's not like he was exactly fleeing the jurisdiction or anything. He's a creep and he's a criminal, but Michael got who and what he was paying for, and too bad it ended so abruptly. In no way did he care more about those kids than he cared about getting high. Stupid little fucker.

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No surprises so far. He seemed a bit suspect to begin with when he took off running before the cops got there & hiding out for days. He knew he was in trouble.

Propofol makes you unconscious, not "asleep," which actually would make it a good euthanasia drug.

I wonder if MJ really offed himself. I know he was killing himself with drugs, but I mean, maybe he finally for once and all decided that night to go, and the Doc helped him. MJ would've had to make a big payment to get that service.

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Submitted by Zambonie on Tue, 07/28/2009 - 9:28am.

Totally agree.

And if you're junkie then you cannot be a 'great father'.

It's fitting how the only people to be blubbing away and building MJ up as an untouchable icon are the people who hadn't seen him in years *cough* Uri Gellar *cough*.

Even when he did that press conference to announce his O2 shows, he looked like death. I'm surprised he had the strength to hold his wig up.

Still, there were thousands of enablers to buy tickets and scream or him when he mumbled a couple of words and did a fist pump.

whatevs

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Submitted by Zambonie on Tue, 07/28/2009 - 9:28am.
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I totally agree with you.

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What a complete mess this whole situation is.

I'm sure that the media will be happy to have somebody to finally pin MJ's death on, but I really hope that this puts an end to the bizarre eulogies that papers have been writing since he croaked.

I just hope that his kids never saw him spaced out on this shit. Nothing repairs the damage caused by seeing your junkie parents on a high.

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Submitted by missy on Tue, 07/28/2009 - 8:17am.
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LOL @ "Dlistards"

I'm sure if he hadn't administered the drug, jackson would have found someone to
or just done it himself

it's not like the guy broke into jacksons house and drugged him, or slipped something into his drink without telling him

jackson was gonna do his drugs, no matter what and this guy was just unfortunate enough to be there when jackson crapped out

sorry if it upsets some people
but jackson was a junkie and he died a junkies death

it's just in his case he was wealthy and died in a nice home and not some alley somewhere

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Submitted by beegirl on Tue, 07/28/2009 - 9:06am.
I loved me some Michael Jackson back in the day!

Sadly, Michael Jackson, the REAL goddamn Michael Jackson died years ago. I swear if anyone made a pact with the devil or had someone who was cursed with a voodoo doll it was him. He was such a bright, life force and you can just literally see it drain away over time. So tragic, so sad. WTF happened to make him change like that. That Mike in 1977-1984 dancing and singing and smiling with everything to live for...just WTF happened?

It literally makes me sick to think about.

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But then again, all of Michael's people/family were being paid big buck$ to keep their mouths shut & look the other way. Which led up to his association with the fine Dr. Murray above....well Michael, you paid the ultimate price for always getting what you wanted, now didn't you? R.I.P. MJ
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