Bill O'Reilly Is The New Dan Quayle

Why is he getting all up in JA's face? If men have become expendable it's because they've done it to themselves. Get a clue dude.

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Meh. I get what she's saying and totally agree that it's not necessary to have a man in order to have a healthy, happy family. HOWEVER, I also get where O'Reilly is coming from; I do believe it's best for society when most families include a committed, loving dad.

For many people, myself included, it doesn't work out that way and I think it's great that for women WHO CAN AFFORD IT (none of this, I want a baby so I'm going to have it on my own, and welfare can pay for it), that they have the turkey baster option. But men do have a role to play in raising the next generation and it's ideal if that role could be more than just making deposits at the local sperm bank (but hey - Shout out to Fairfax Cryo's Donor #1917, who made MY dreams come true!).

neofavorr --

exactly. and just the other day, or was it yesterday, she was saying she didn't want to go the baster route but might have children if she met the right guy. she's just talking... though i do believe she can have an open mind while leading her own life a bit more conservatively.

strangely (because i don't normally like him), i sort of see what o'reilly is saying. i also think fathers' importance is underplayed. however, one can't be too much of an idealist when it comes to family. the ideal is never met. sometimes your dad just isn't what he should be, sometimes you're luckier to be without the one you've got. in all situations, in all families, you just do the best you can.

ps. the only thing that really, really bothers me about this particular o'reilly quote is the "destructive to our society" part. that's just code for protecting the status quo and has nothing to do with the betterment or degradation of our "society." people who talk that way are scared of *any* change.

I firmly believe that kids can thrive in any family structure, as long as it is safe, loving and constant.

She's an actress promoting a movie. What she says has zero to do with what she believes and zero to do with her proclamation to society at large. She's promoting a movie she was paid millions of dollars to act in. Does your job define you and everything you believe in? Probably not. We may think she has an obligation to the world with what she says since she's a big ol influential movie star, but come on...really Bill? F*** off.

Bad influences probably are worse than none but it's hard to bring a test tube with you on Me and Daddy day.

Hey, I'm usually all for the STFU Aniston wagon but I get what she's trying to say and I kind of agree. Shocking.

I don't think that she's saying that fathers are not important, because they are - and now more than ever, when it's actually expected that men develop affective and hands-on relationships with their children, something that clearly wasn't that important for our grandparents or great-grandparents. It's just that it is possible to be single and to provide a complete life, full of love, to a child, regardless of your gender. Maybe a baby born from artificial insemination won't have a father, but that doesn't mean that they aren't going to have father figures - there's always grandfathers, uncles, extended family - and when there aren't it's important to trust the mother's judgement on whether she's going to be able to provide full emotional support to her child, through herself or others, when she makes the decision to have a child; it's only the natural thing to do, seeing as it's her life primarily and most times her life alone that's going to be affected by a presence of a baby for whom she is the only one responsible. Assuming that women who have babies alone are irresponsible selfish people who collect babies like Paris Hilton collects toy dogs is frankly pretty woman-hating; not saying that there aren't people like that out there, but if you think that it is the norm you clearly have a really distorted view of women's capacity to have good sense and be intelligent.

I do agree though that women who are in their forties and older should think twice about having babies. Knowing that the chance for birth defects is higher and choosing to try anyway IS selfish.

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And I hear your words that I made up. You say my name like there could be an us. I'd best tidy up my head I'm the only one in love, I'm the only one in love.
Adele, "Heart to Stone"

Families should strive for a good father as much as they should strive for a good mother.

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Bossy, I liked your post. I think, at least in the beginning, most people think about having babies with the hope that there will be two parents in the picture. Most, not all. But I don't think that Jennifer or anyone else who does the sperm donor/single parent thing is selfish. You can be raised with plenty of love by a single parent, just like you can grow up in a dual parent household and not be loved at all.

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And I hear your words that I made up. You say my name like there could be an us. I'd best tidy up my head I'm the only one in love, I'm the only one in love.
Adele, "Heart to Stone"

I actually think Bill O'Reilly is completely right here (that comes once in a blue moon and that's that I'm a Republican). I was raised by a single mother and her large, warm family. My grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc. are all very loving and are very much a core of my family, not "extended" family. My father has tried to have a role in my life but because my parents are divorced (and did so while I was just a couple of months old) and he's remarried AND he's in another country it's been difficult. That and the fact that I don't like him, that he's controlling without trying to understand situations, that he'll meet up with me and try to boss me around as if he's earned the right. Without him and with everyone else that IS in my life I've done very well. So why do I agree with O'Reilly? Because children SHOULD have a POSITIVE father in their lives. That's the caveat.

I don't think he's implying that a bad home situation should stay intact simply for the sake of there being a father. Nor does he think a shitty, abusive, rapist, etc. father is better than no father at all. But having a child through insemination by a stranger with the objective of their being NO father at all is not healthy. Families should strive for a good father as much as they should strive for a good mother. It shouldn't be optional just because biology allows for a father to make a baby and then leave w/o a 9 month commitment. You have to at least start off with the hope that you can have an intact family rather than thinking, "F it, I'll go to a sperm bank and will raise the kid on my own, who needs a man! Just because I haven't found someone I like by age 43 doesn't mean I can't have a child!" That's selfish.

Submitted by But.Seriously.Folks on Wed, 08/11/2010 - 7:44pm.

I.T.A. Sometimes the "other" adults in children's lives care more than the parents. True talk. It really does take a village.

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And I hear your words that I made up. You say my name like there could be an us. I'd best tidy up my head I'm the only one in love, I'm the only one in love.
Adele, "Heart to Stone"

Submitted by But.Seriously.Folks on Wed, 08/11/2010 - 7:44pm.

What kids need is sane, smart, loving people--hopefully of both genders--in their lives. Whether it's parents, grands, aunts, uncles, cousins, friends, neighbors, teachers, clergy...whateva! Kids need whole, healthy adults who give a shit and have wisdom and kindness to pour into them.

I agree. There should be very limited number of primary caregivers, but a wide range of supporting caregivers.

What kids need is sane, smart, loving people--hopefully of both genders--in their lives. Whether it's parents, grands, aunts, uncles, cousins, friends, neighbors, teachers, clergy...whateva! Kids need whole, healthy adults who give a shit and have wisdom and kindness to pour into them. Single parent...two parent...no parent...we're cranking out sociopaths and THAT'S the problem.

Ok, enough pontificating, I need some liquor.
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Single mom here, and no not by choice - by circumstance. Maybe I should have let their hanging at the bar, not coming home at night dad stick around to be a "positive role model" for my children, but I chose stability, fuckyouverymuch Bill O'fuckinsexualharassmentslashpillarofthecommunityReilly

Submitted by CandyPerfumeGirl on Wed, 08/11/2010 - 7:00pm.
So basically she is just trying to rationalize her own situation, so she doesnt feel so lonely and damned betrayed and abandoned. That is so typical.

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Typical of what? Divorcees? Not all single/divorced women are bitter, or lonely, or feel abandoned. I'm not really a fan, but I really wish that people would open their eyes and realize that maybe she is HAPPIER w/o Brad and without children. Not all women have the 1950's mentality that their whole self-worth comes from having a man and children.

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And I hear your words that I made up. You say my name like there could be an us. I'd best tidy up my head I'm the only one in love, I'm the only one in love.
Adele, "Heart to Stone"

Bill overreacted, as usual. Jen's general point, that the definition of what constitutes a family is changing, is spot on. I think that, unless the economy drastically takes a turn for the better, parents are going to start living closer to their parents and extended family out of necessity. We might move more towards the "village" model of raising kids, and that will likely have a net positive effect on society.

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I had two dads, my sperm donor and my stepdad. I would've been MUCH better off without either of them in my life. So fuck you Bill O'Reilly!

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It's shocking that people still listen to/watch O'Reilly. Tool doesn't even begin to describe it.

P.S. I love the word spinster. I just don't think it apples to JA. Spinsters don't have bodies like that!! Yay me, I'm now an official HEND :)

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So basically she is just trying to rationalize her own situation, so she doesnt feel so lonely and damned betrayed and abandoned. That is so typical.
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Well, Mr. O'Reilly, I had two parents. Two parents who literally made me get out the car and stand on the side of the road while they drove off, to "teach me a lesson". I was ten years old. The worst part was that these were my adoptive parents. No way out for me.

I am now a SINGLE PARENT...my daughter's father loves and supports her even though we are not together. She is surrounded by people who love her, and THAT is what is important.

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And I hear your words that I made up. You say my name like there could be an us. I'd best tidy up my head I'm the only one in love, I'm the only one in love.
Adele, "Heart to Stone"

I suspect Mrs. Bill O'Reilly wishes every day she had decided to raise kids without a man.

Evil_Cupcake on Wed, 08/11/2010 - 5:47pm.

So well said! Thank you.

"This is the thing. I was only raised by my mom and I'm not a complete fuck-up. Yes, my nightly ritual involves crying at the bottom of a hot shower and medicating myself with the good shit, but other than that I'm fine! And yes, I sometimes use paper towels to wipe when I'm out of toilet paper, but that doesn't mean I should be banished from society (or does it????)."

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AHAHAHA, MK.

Bill just likes to use celebrities name in the press so he can stay relevant

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Submitted by trowzzzer on Wed, 08/11/2010 - 5:38pm.

What century are you from that says you have to have a man to have children with? I don't care if Aniston or Speed Racer said it, it's true. Women do not have to be married or tied to a man in order to raise a family.

Just because she is single, doesn't mean she can't find a man. Is it your thought that all single women out there are single due to the inability to get or trap a man, and that means there is something wrong with them? Is it maybe possible that she, like many women out there, are happy to date and be single and have a life that isn't dependent on a man to validate their existence?

I am married and boy, sometimes I miss the single life tremendously! I miss the freedoms.

I just do not get the hate for Aniston. There are many more actresses out there who open their traps and sound like assholes, but they aren't crucified like Aniston is. Is it all because she was the first Mrs. Pitt? Is that where the hate comes from?

Whew! Never knew I cared so much about something so trivial!

As you were------

@ snowpiece - When men are gone altogether, do you really think that women will be able to keep from killing each other? Women are bitches. Period.

Sorry, but I'm leaning towards Bill on this one. Who the fuck does Jennifer Aniston think she is? Nobody cares what she has to say. She can't find a man who will stay with her for any length of time, so she's trying to justify her existence. (And, hoping people will go see her new movie.) Unfortunately, mob mentality says that most people just believe her because she's a popular person.

She's always saying how the press is out to make her look like the unhappy, aging spinster yet she keeps accepting these roles that portray her in the same light.

Submitted by Whatever on Wed, 08/11/2010 - 4:12pm.

I don't think 12 and 13 year old girls care about what a middle aged actress says. They are more into Miley Cyrus.

Also, a 12 or 13 year old shouldn't be thinking seriously about motherhood. They just need to know how to avoid it.

Shit, most of us get fucked up some way or another by one or both parents or parental figures, whether they're together or not.

Many parents do the best they can with what they're given to make a better life for their kids. There's no right or wrong or best way or worse way, it just is what it is, and some people (gay and straight, single and partnered) are better at it than others because they're willing to learn from their mistakes and are open to change and willing to accept their kids for who they are.

And sometimes kids are still fucked up because there comes a time when they have to make their own choices and they're just royally bad at that.

Okay, off my soap box.

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@K2: In most of the families I know, both parents work. So the kids still spend significant time in daycare, preschool, etc.

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Well not in my household. I chose to give up my full time job to raise my children, live within my means, do away with the luxuries and even struggle at times ... rather than have some stranger raising my babies and earning a good portion of my paycheck. I get it that mostly all families need 2 incomes to survive ... but is it really to survive or is it to have enough material possessions to keep them happy? If I went back to work - we'd be sitting pretty and living the good life, but sometimes you just have to make sacrifices, especially when it comes to the well being of a child. And for the record, this is coming from a person who was raised by a single mother, who worked full time - but still had an awesome father who contributed to our lives ..financially and emotionally. So I get it.

Seems that in reality, no one knows for sure whether the traditional man + woman + children arrangement is the "best". Disfuncton comes in all sorts of arrangements. I had the traditional nuclear family, Dad, Mom, and a sister. We lived in the Midwest surrounded by "values". I knew I was gay in my early teens although I had never been exposed to any sort of homosexual anything. My Dad recognized it quickly and spent years trying to beat it out of me...I was lucky to survive. When I came out in my 20s, he disowned me which was one of the best things that ever happened to me. He was crazy and his hatred of me actually set me free to live a productive life.

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I thought Jenny was just fine as Rachel - but from the moment she stopped being Rach there isn't one single solitary thing she's ever said that was remotely interesting.

She's possibly a very witty, intelligent woman but she comes across as a vacuous dim wit who always seems to be trying way too hard to be sunny & cheerful. It's a freaky kind of way of being for a woman over 40 I reckon.

Second, sperm banks are useless inventions. Go adopt a living child instead. If nature didn't want you getting pregnant, accept it and go change the life of an innocent child somewhere, rather than fulfill the selfish little desire to be the whining center of attention for nine months.
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Whoa. Obviously you've never tried to adopt. Much cheaper and easier to bake your own baby. Not everyone has 30k to spend buying, oops, I mean adopting, a baby. That price tag makes even IVF look like a bargain. There also, thankfully, aren't enough babies to go around (this means fewer unintended pregnancies, greater access to birth control) and you can spend years on a waiting list.

I hate to agree with Billo on anything, but I do feel men are marginalized in terms of their contribution to the rearing of children. Now, this doesn't mean every kid needs a biological or adopted dad around, but they do need men in their lives as much as they need women.

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Personally, I think Steven is just one of those natural crackheads. You know, those hos who act strung out, but aren't. They are primarily known as "Born-Again Christians."

I was raised by a single mother and I think I turned out alright (for the most part). I'm a Social Work major and I've learned a lot about families. That statistics for kids raised in fatherless homes are scary. I'm not against single women adopting or anything as long as they're financially and emotionally stable.

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Honestly, O'Reilly was the one who pointed out that Aniston made the remarks in the context of promoting a movie. And he wasn't too nasty in this clip. Those peroxided Real Housewives of Fox News, however, could use a beatdown.

Aniston sending out a message to 12 and 13-year-olds made me LOL. I suppose parents like Sarah and Todd Palin have to have someone to blame, since they obviously couldn't influence their teen daughter not to be another unwed mother statistic (probably twice).

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Submitted by K2 on Wed, 08/11/2010 - 12:44pm.
... a single woman raising a child alone needs to work to afford that child, therefore the child ultimately gets left to be raised by someone other than the mother anyway. So why make that choice to begin with? It's one thing to go through a divorce and become a single parent - obviously the intent wasn't there to do it alone - also, widows and widowers have no choice but to do it alone. But to make a conscious decision to do this without a balance .. not sure that's in anyone's best interest.
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@K2: In most of the families I know, both parents work. So the kids still spend significant time in daycare, preschool, etc.

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I don't think 12 and 13 year old girls care about what a middle aged actress says. They are more into Miley Cyrus.

I think FOX is making a point: She needs to be killed.

Did O'Reilly have that cunt Gretchen Carlson discussing this? Because bitch had a crazed affair with Kevin McGraw, the married anchor at her first TV station, which just happens to be my ABC affiliate -- WRIC, formerly WXEX. His wife divorced him and he was fired, but bitch went on to be a Fox star.

Raising a child as a single parent (with the generous, never-to-be-understated help of my parents), was the hardest thing I ever did. Period. It's why I never had another child. Jen would have it easier than I did. A bad father is a curse, but a good dad is worth his weight in platinum.

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Come on Bill, she's perfectly harmless.

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I just dont understand ... if Jen really feels so strongly about this (not needing a man to father a child) and claims she wants to be a mother ... then why doesn't she get on it already? Hell, she has enough money to hire nannies if she needs the help, so what's the hold up? She could adopt or use a sperm donor, etc. to get what she craves in life and yet she's dancing around making that decision. Don't get me wrong, I like her alot and 9 times out of 10 I'll even defend her. But this whole statement seems a little hypocritical. JMO.

Lol @fewwords and Kidl

I'd choose a tree stump or bag full of rocks to be raised by over Bill O'Reilly.

What a dumbass- These moron family values groups always make moms the scapegoat for everything wrong with society. Men might get crapped on a lot when it comes to kids and family, but whenever a kid or young person does something bad, or is a victim of something bad, it is almost always the mom who gets blamed first.

J'suis confused. Jen An is saying "don't settle" this sounds like sound advice to me.

Why put up with an idiot?
Move on...

Pick it,
Lick it,
Roll it,
Flick it...
Again... harder... dammit, I'm gonna have to do it myself

Bill O'Rielly is a douche! Times have totally changed. And if he pulled his head out of his ass, he might have better understood what JA was saying.
"Love is love and family is what is around you and who is in your immediate sphere."
This quote is soooooo true. I'm a 31 year old single woman. Most of my immediate family does not even live in the same province as me (I'm Canadian - in case you are wondering what a province is. ;)). However, my friends and roommates have become my family.
I wonder what Mr. O'Rielly would have to say about our family dinners.

Submitted by KidL on Wed, 08/11/2010 - 2:10pm.
If I had to chose between being raised by a single mother or having O'Slimey as my father, I would chose the former hands down.

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I think it's amusing when Bill O'Really talks about what's destructive to society. That fuckass is an expert on it. That guy seriously needs to fall down a long staircase.