Roger Ebert vs. Bam Margera

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Roger Ebert tweeted Monday about the unforeseen death of "Jackass" star Ryan Dunn. Many have belittled Ebert for his remarks on twitter,ha they sure did. Which came the same day that Dunn passed away. Ebert has replied to the criticism. Dunn's bad behavior, however, is still questioned in the response. I found this here check it out: Roger Ebert responds to criticism over his tweet about Ryan Dunn

Submitted by Evil_Cupcake on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 3:22pm.
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agreed.

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Team Ebert (and Team Darwin, too!)

Submitted by Bree on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 12:31pm.

From my understanding, "porsche girl" aka Nikki Catsouras was in trouble because her dad found out she was doing drugs. He took her keys away so she took the keys to her fathers porsche and was driving about 100 mph when she flipped over multiple lanes of traffic and crashed into a toll booth.

The pictures are extremely graphic and horrific. I wanted to know her story after hearing rumors but the pictures are attached to the story and I will never forget what I saw....

Edit: found a Wikipedia link that doesn't include pictures, wanted to add it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikki_Catsouras_photographs_controversy

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I remember this - I live in Orange County, and this was big news a few years ago - sadly, not for the accident itself, but for the fact that it was "alleged" that the police were the ones that leaked the pictures of this gruesome death. They were among the WORST death scene photos - ever.

Bam really needs to stfu, because the fact of the matter is, if he was driving while intoxicated and going over 100 mph, as unfortunate as the turn out clearly was, he is an idiot for getting behind the wheel and making it a potential death trap. And if Ryan should any one backing him, up it wouldn't be that POS, BAM. Suck it and fuck it you stupid bitch.

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there are millions of people crying? Whether he drove drunk or not (toxicology will tell us that), he was still speeding and still caused his own death and that of his friend. It's sad that he died. And sadder that he didn't have to. He had a choice and he took the wrong option.

Submitted by tomahawk on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 2:54pm.
Submitted by Evil_Cupcake on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 2:36pm.

oh, bam is a woman beater? i didn't know that.

but ou can also turn it this way: what the fuck did eberts know about bams friend of 20 years?

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Yes, Bam is a woman beater, and a cheater.

Well he knows more than Bam would, as Dunn posted pictures of himself drinking that evening on Twitter. He and his friend are dead at the hands of speeding and probably drunk driving. That is what he knows. That is what we all know.

How can Magera comment on anything that happened BEFORE he was even out of diapers. If there is information out there where Ebert speaks of his driving dunk, and evidence tha he did it all the time, and injured or killed someone due to those choices, I would like to see it.

Ebert also speaks as someone who WAS an alcoholic and knows the pitfalls and the horrors of what drinking can do to you.

Again, he was commenting on the friends who let Dunn drive after drinking, not Dunn himself.

Still do not get why people think it is so awful when the truth is spoken. If Dunn were alive and had killed someone else in another car, would everyone be okay with that? He killed himself and a passenger, so that makes what he did okay? That excuses the drinking? The speeding? It was only luck and the lateness of the hour that someone else was not on that road at the same time.

Ebert is right. This jackass killed someone else in addition to himself.

Fuck you Bam your precious friend is a murderer and a drunk driving dick, he could've hit another car & killed even more people on top of that. So Roger can say whatever the FUCK he pleases about that piece of filth.

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Submitted by Evil_Cupcake on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 2:36pm.

oh, bam is a woman beater? i didn't know that.

but ou can also turn it this way: what the fuck did eberts know about bams friend of 20 years?

Yes, it's sad that they lost their friend - but the truth is that it was AVOIDABLE. Robert's right. When are people going to wake up and stop the drinking and driving bullshit? He killed himself ... but that could've also been an innocent bystander or a family that he wiped out!

** This goes double for you texting while driving assholes.

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Submitted by ILovePapaSmurf on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 2:20pm.
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I agree, we all do, after such a tragedy strikes.

Here they sell $20 taxi coupons. Parents buy that to their teenagers instead of giving them cash, which they could spend elsewhere. I think it's a great concept."

There are so many programs out there people can take advantage of. If you're a DD, you should keep those numbers handy just in case you see someone get a little too out of hand while drinking. It is honestly the best thing out there.

Sorry, I have no tolerance when it comes to drinking and driving. I was in a car accident when I was 8-months-old. The car I was in was hit by a drunk driver and I was almost crushed.

A few months after I got my brand new car in 2005, a drunk motorcyclist hit the car and scared the living crap out of me. Not only because of the impact, but watching him him fly at least 200-feet off his bike only to land on concrete. He survived - thank goodness - but I hope he learned his lesson. His injuries were horrible.
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I would slaughter a thousand babies for an hour alone with Mike Rowe."

Submitted by Jana on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 2:24pm.

Now Jana, why would Bam (woman beater) Magera know more about what Ebert does than Ebert? Roger Ebert has been sober and a member of AA since 1979. How in the fuck would Bam know what the hell Roger Ebert did when he was an alcoholic? Bam was barely out of the womb when Roger Ebert quit drinking. Just because someone publicly discusses their alcoholism does not mean that someone like Bam knows what the fuck goes on, and since when would anyone take what Bam Douche Bag Magera has to say as teh gospel? You think he knows more about Roger Eberts past as a drinke than Roger Ebert? How does Bam have insight into Eberts life?

The facts speak for themselves, and Bam is pissed because someone dared speak the truth about HIS friend.

So what if Dunn had killed an innocent person in this whole mess in another car? What if Dunn would have been arrested DUI? EVERYONE would be tearing him to bits, but because he died, ay his own hands, it is now taboo to speak the truth about his stupid choices? Give me a break, and the day I look to what Bam Magera says regarding ANYTHING is the day I also throw all hope for the future out the window and slit my own wrists!

team Ebert

Submitted by ILovePapaSmurf on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 2:20pm.
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I agree, we all do, after such a tragedy strikes.

Here they sell $20 taxi coupons. Parents buy that to their teenagers instead of giving them cash, which they could spend elsewhere. I think it's a great concept.

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Cuppy, I really don't know his background and went by what BAM staed,

''About a jackass drunk driving and his is one, fuck you! Millions of people are crying right now, shut your fat fucking mouth!''

From my understanding, and I trust he'd know more than the media, he implied that he drove/drives drunk as well. Sadly, most never get caught (I see it at my current work place all the time, people leaving inebriated in their cars), until it's too late.

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Submitted by ILovePapaSmurf on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 1:56pm.
Team Ebert.

He was 100-percent on point.
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talk is cheap. Seems to me he drove numerous drunk too. He should STFU."

Show me a link to this info. I'd love to read it.

But Ryan should have known better and instead of getting behind the wheel, he should have called a taxi. In fact, all people who drink should have that option in mind.
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"Submitted by suckandfuck on Fri, 04/16/2010 - 5:46pm.

I would slaughter a thousand babies for an hour alone with Mike Rowe."

Submitted by sandyisdandy on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 1:29pm.

tomahawk, alcohol impairs the ability to drive. This is fact. Claiming that a trained drinker is safer because he's buzzed is more insulting that assuming someone bragging about getting drunk and photographing himself drinking at a bar for all his fans probably drove drunk.
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A long time ago my dad (god rest his soul, today is actually the anniversary of this death) told me that when you start to believe that you can drive well under the influence then you are pretty much an alcoholic. Then again, he was a recovering alcoholic himself. Still saying that you can drive drunk just makes you sound like a moron, and sadly I've met a few that were like that.

Even though Ebert has a point, it's just too soon and in poor taste even for a Jackass members death.

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Submitted by Jana on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 1:59pm.
Submitted by ILovePapaSmurf on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 1:56pm.
Team Ebert.

He was 100-percent on point.
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talk is cheap. Seems to me he drove numerous drunk too. He should STFU.

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Hmmm, I wasn't aware that he said he drove drunk a lot, and if he did, he didn't kill himself nor anyone else, and I know for a fact he has not driven drunk since 1979, if he ever did drive under the influence.

If you could include some info where it is stated that he drank and drove, I would be interested in reading that. FYI, not all alcoholics drink and drive, and drinking and driving is not done by everyone.

The point of my long winded post down below, sorry, is that Dunn was in the public eye, whether he was drunk or not is really irrelevent. Even if he was just speeding, he was incredibly irresponsible, he killed ANOTHER PERSON and he was a public figure that lots of young men probably admired. Ebert did nothing wrong. Bam needs to grow the fuck up.

I understand people reading comments that might have a personal story, but thier loved ones might not be public figures, that is entirely different. If you make money exploiting yourself, comments hours after you drive into a tree are to be expected.

The only positive thing in the whole mess is the right person died. He made the choice and paid the price.

Submitted by ILovePapaSmurf on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 1:56pm.
Team Ebert.

He was 100-percent on point.
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talk is cheap. Seems to me he drove numerous drunk too. He should STFU.

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Submitted by spankypants on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 11:50am.
Team Ebert. I have no tolerance for drunk drivers whether they kill someone or not.

Truth.

I disagree with this.....I don't necessarily comment based on my own disappointments....I comment because I hate the message "celebrity" culture sends, I hate that young women aspire to be a "girl next door" rather than a professor or president. I hate that people who work their way through college and are useful members of society struggle to pay their bills and get their kids through college and "celebrities" born into wealth waste money on tit implants, botox and their own PR to make more money. Do you know how many Americans don't have basic health care? Most importantly, in being a "celebrity," essentially that person becomes a product, like Pepsi or McDonalds. If we have a right to say McDonalds sucks because it makes you fat and sick, you can say that overpaid asshole makes you sick too. And for the record, I'm in the arts, and I'm not starving, but recognize that an ER nurse has more value to society, even if society doesn't recognize that, it's about being grounded, not bitter, and about caring about what kind of world you live in.

Submitted by Hoegarten on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 1:18pm.

ITA with this. This has actually been weighing on my mind lately. These sites are setting a terrible example(not like I'm about to give that up!), that it is ok to pick a person (even though they're a celebrity and they make a living off of superficial attributes and an image) apart simply because of our own disappointments are frustrations.

RE: Porsche Girl

If you can't be a good example, you'll have to be a horrible warning. :(

She might have been the nicest person on the planet. But if you're going to (figuratively) throw yourself under a bus, you're going to get squished. too bad kids think they're indestructible. it is sad; but her guardian angel must have taken the day off.

Submitted by Bree on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 1:46pm.

I have to think you have to be one methed out freak to sit around and think it is a good idea to video yourself shoving a screwdriver up your penis and then uploading it to a site. A person not on some major drugs could not think that was something right.

As for the Silicone penis guy, he must have had some size issues or some bad romance on top of drug or alcohol problems. FFS, the guy cannot pee standing up and his stuff hangs in dirty toilet water when he does pee or do the other. His pants and undies leave marks on his junk and he cannot lay anyone. I find those things just too bizarre to comprehend. WHY????? why?????

Submitted by tomahawk on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 1:49pm.
Submitted by Jana on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 1:46pm.

In Europe the tolerance for drinking and driving is 0.
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i'm from europe - germany, to be exact, and our limit is 0,5.
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Really? In the Czech and Slovak Republic it's nill. I may have generalized then.

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Team Ebert.

He was 100-percent on point.
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"Submitted by suckandfuck on Fri, 04/16/2010 - 5:46pm.

I would slaughter a thousand babies for an hour alone with Mike Rowe."

Submitted by ..... on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 1:48pm.
They didn't hurt anybody else but themselves. Their families and friends are in pain and grieving right now.

Two sentences that completely contradict each other. YES they DID hurt someone. Every single damn person in their lives. Everyone that has been affected by drunk driving because this shit is still happening.

I'm with Ebert all the way...

Also, Bam tweets "i've been crying hysterically for a full day" really? A FULL DAY? It just sounds so stupid for some reason

Submitted by tomahawk on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 1:37pm.

How much more evidence do you need?

What will you say when the "evidence" comes back that he was drunk?

WTF happened to Roger Ebert's face? YIKES!

Submitted by Jana on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 1:46pm.

In Europe the tolerance for drinking and driving is 0.
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i'm from europe - germany, to be exact, and our limit is 0,5.

Since all the ppl involved in the accident were adults and made the decision to be in that car there is really nothing to be talking about. They didn't hurt anybody else but themselves. Their families and friends are in pain and grieving right now. Whatever people think about the accident or the people involved should be kept to themselves or at least have common sense not to put it on Twitter.

To me Ebert's comment and attitude is just like the Westboro Baptist Church's ppl: trying to push their beliefs when people are suffering the loss of their love ones. Plain and simple: "if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing".

In Europe the tolerance for drinking and driving is 0.

It's abig problem here, in Canada, where the legal drinking age is only 18. Only 10% of the population who drive are under 20 yrs old, but they make up 25% of drunk driving accidents and deaths. Those are the facts.

This year they are making new cars with a Breathalyzer automatically installed in them before you can start it up, so no one will drive under the influence.

I said it before but just over the weekend 9 (under 20 years of age) were killed, in my city alone, due to driving intoxicated.

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Hahaha that's a good point, I'm not quite sure why he did it. I wish I understood why a lot of these people do those kinds of things (like screwdriver guy, WTF?) I also wonder how many times they go over these things in their heads...do they think about it once and say "fuck it!" and go for it? Or do they dwell on it like a sane person and somehow still decide to do it?

We probably live with just as many freaks as they used to hundreds of years ago, we just have more access to them now...doesn't make any of it any less disturbing though lol

Submitted by sandyisdandy on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 1:29pm.

no need to get rude. so your laws say that people don't have to be 100% sober to be allowed to drive - why don't you try to tell your police/government that you want the law to be changed?
that was my point.

edit: and please don't insult the dead before you have valid evidence.

Submitted by Bree on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 1:18pm.

OMG! WTF is that dude's problem? Who would do that to themselves? What a flipping weirdo! I love the part where he "sees a young guy and I want to fuck his ass, but I can't". Did it ever say why he did that to himself? Imma go investigate!

The one guy, screwdriver thing is vomit inducing. I was deeply bothered by it for a day or two after seeing it, because you just wonder what kind of a person does stuff like that to themselves.

tomahawk, alcohol impairs the ability to drive. This is fact. Claiming that a trained drinker is safer because he's buzzed is more insulting that assuming someone bragging about getting drunk and photographing himself drinking at a bar for all his fans probably drove drunk. I repeat: he tweeted about drinking and tweeted a photo of himself drinking in a bar. He then got behind the wheel of a car, drove at an incredibly dangerous speed, and killed himself and someone who wasn't driving. Tell me where the facts are absolutely wrong in this explanation that's been said since he was declared dead. Go ahead. Tell me. Where in this chain of events are people crossing the line?

A fucking idiot was drinking, got behind the wheel, drove at an incredibly fast speed, and killed himself and someone else. Where is the danger in pointing this out to people?

Submitted by Evil_Cupcake on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 12:54pm.

WHAAAAA?! It's one of those things, you can't believe it so you HAVE to see it then you really wish you didn't... I'm half tempted, but I think I'll refrain lol

that reminds me of another video a friend sent me (what an asshole)....the guy tied a string around his nuts really tight to cut off the feeling, then slowly cut off his own nuts. How do you even?! Why would you?!

And some other video of a guy who pumped so much silicone into his balls that they were like bowling balls, it was funny but gross. I keep trying to trick my fiance into watching it but he gets so truly pissed off at me, he won't even talk to me lol here's silicone balls boy if you want to see it: http://stokingtheroots.com/2010/01/22/man-dubbs-silicone-penis-the-blob/

It's funny but not funny....I guess I'm just an ass!

I totally agree, but I understand I am a hypocrite myself. What worries me is that we all grew up before Facebook, Myspace, etc. so we understand that while we joke about some of this shit on Dlisted concerning celebrities, there is a line that needs to be drawn at some point. I feel like the kids growing up with this stuff, who don't know what life is like without it, will be so grossly desensitized to everything (as you said, not just death) and will make for some crazy sociopaths in the future...then again, I could just be paranoid :)

ITA with this. This has actually been weighing on my mind lately. These sites are setting a terrible example(not like I'm about to give that up!), that it is ok to pick a person (even though they're a celebrity and they make a living off of superficial attributes and an image) apart simply because of our own disappointments are frustrations. Kids don't know that in the real world, you either try to get to know someone for the person they are, or leave them alone. After this merciless teasing, bullies then take it to the internet for infinitely more humiliation. The kid then internalizes (and perhaps rightfully so) it as something that they can never escape and grow from-like when Britney had her breakdown for example. Kids don't know in the real world, you will never see the kids who are making fun of you again.

Regarding Dunn, there is no excuse for driving that fast. I'm an optimist and hoping that the toxicology report shows he had sobered up by then?
Ebert is right but he was a real asshole about it.

Remember in the 90's when people said "hey, its the 90s right?"

ok, i had to look it up - we actually have a lower blood alcohol concentration limit than you - i never would've thought that!
3 beer can be still in the limit of 0,8% - if he was a trained drinker (i guess so), he might have even more without getting over the limit. has anybody thought of him falling asleep while driving?
assuming otherwise before the results are out is indeed insulting, and yes, i have been really sad yesterday when i read that he had died - i didn't cry though.

ps: the people in my city drive as if they're drunk 24/7.

It would be irresponsible for Ebert not to Tweet about this? How so? Everybody is thinking the same thing. It doesn't need to be said. "Drinking and driving kill." No shit.

Ebert shouldn't feel responsible for stating The Obvious, but he's clearly taking his position as Twitter Wisdom Leader rather seriously.

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Submitted by Bree on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 12:50pm.

Bree, the screwdriver thing was some sick dude shoving a screwdriver up his thing. I was lulled into viewing it by some posts on here! I about threw up.

I did see that Nicki Catsouras link you posted and read it. Sad for her parents. I cannot believe douche bags would send those pics to her parents and say what they said! Awful! The internet at it's lowest!

Imma ck out the other link you posted about the Russkies.

Submitted by Evil_Cupcake on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 12:32pm.

It was pretty gruesome, I'm not sure if I saw the screw driver thing (was it the Dnepropetrovsk maniacs? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnepropetrovsk_maniacs I did see some of those videos, almost barfed....)

I think the screw driver thing was worse, but Porsche girl was pretty bad too. I heard her dad was calling 911 so they could find her and as the dispatcher was checking, he heard sirens in the background and those sirens were on their way to the scene of the accident where she was already dead. May just be urban legend as far as that part goes, but I definitely haven't forgotten EITHER of those things!

Submitted by madam s. on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 12:35pm.

I totally agree, but I understand I am a hypocrite myself. What worries me is that we all grew up before Facebook, Myspace, etc. so we understand that while we joke about some of this shit on Dlisted concerning celebrities, there is a line that needs to be drawn at some point. I feel like the kids growing up with this stuff, who don't know what life is like without it, will be so grossly desensitized to everything (as you said, not just death) and will make for some crazy sociopaths in the future...then again, I could just be paranoid :)

Yes, I saw the "Porsche Girl" pics...not much left of her head but hair, and sickening streams and pools of blood. She clipped another car, but thankfully that other driver survived. I don't think it's crazy to have young drivers see those images. They certainly stick with you. Not tooting my horn, but I'm a more careful driver because of it.

TrashyWilma and Bree,

I wholeheartedly agree, but would go further and say it's hardly just insensitivity around death or tragedy. The things I see people say on comment threads is pretty horrible all around... criticisms of people's physiques, hateful, sexist, ageist, racist craziness. I can't even imagine what these people are like in real life. Yes, there is some fun in ranting about the things that irk you, but there is pathological viciousness that breeds on the internet, and I find it scary. And I think the whole... "these are real people and they (and their friends and families) don't deserve to see this" should be true all-around, not just reserved for death. On the other hand I know that I'm hypocritical myself and deem some people exempt from this courtesy, and that's really not very cool either. But seriously, Paris Hilton, Sarah Palin, Jersey Shore people, and the Duggars? I mean, I'm only human.

Submitted by Bree on Tue, 06/21/2011 - 12:21pm.

Porsche girl???? I think I saw mention of that on here a long time ago, (along with a guy and a screw driver- DO NOT GOOGLE!) Was it as bad as I suspect? I am too chicken to look it up, but I remember a few people saying they got physically ill over Porsche Girl.