Suri's Going To Catholic School
So much for my comment about how Suri Cruise has been spared the torture of sitting in a ten hour-long Catholic mass. If The Los Angeles Times is telling the truth, then that whole rumor about how Katie Holmes and Tommy Girl have both agreed to keep religion away from Suri until she gets older is made of lies. Because according to The L.A. Times, Suri will become a Catholic school girl this September when she starts her first day of school at the all-girls Convent of the Sacred Heart in Manhattan. That's the same school Caroline Kennedy, Wonky McValtrex and Lady CaCa went to.
UsWeekly says that tuition is $38,000 a year and Suri will have to go to mass every single Thursday.
Why does Suri have to go to school anyway? Suri already knows how to stomp in heels down a hallway and that's the only valuable lesson you learn at school. Suri already knows everything there is to know about life. Although, sitting in Catholic mass for hours upon days upon weeks upon months upon years upon centuries did force me to learn a very important skill: how to sleep with my eyes open. Make that two very important skills, because I also learned how to roll my eyes on the inside. So there's that.
And you know that by the end of September, Suri will rule that school Regina George-style.
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Catholic schools are more toward education and not goofing off. I went to a Catholic school and then a public school. Trust me, you will definitely learn more at a Catholic school.
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I would definitely see her working in the health care management. She looks so cute and innocent. I am sure she will do so many great things in her life! God bless her.
I know Katie won custody of Suri but she needs to stop parading her around for the media . I am getting a bit sick of Suri and Katie. I think it was great Katie went behind Tom's back. I think all the media attention of her and Suri REALLY HAPPY might backfire on her.
suri wearing a uniform.......I am sure she will love that :)
Submitted by Mani6 on Sun, 07/15/2012 - 6:44pm.
There really is a God. We are all part of it although I think we are located in his left testicle.
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And he's playing marbles with the rest of the planets...... hahahahahahhaaa!!!!
THIS has to be the ultimate way of saying FUCK YOU SCIENTOLOGY!
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Fuckery is what fuckery does.
What a thread. Everybody gets points for explaining their position so well.
Barbara Walter's special on existence of Heaven was interesting. Best moment for me was when Richard Gere said. "Heaven is here now. Hell is here now".
To me this says, no waiting for another time, a better time. Make the best of what you got now. Do good things for others. We are so fragile and weak alone. Religions are just codes to live by for survival.
Everything happens now. Who made this now? Not me I know that. For me God is the now of life. When you get into it you experience that reality.
Submitted by IrishFury on Sun, 07/15/2012 - 9:21pm.
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As much as I can think Suri seems spoiled and a brat I'm wondering the logic of taking a kid to a pet store (shame, shame Katie--ADOPT) and parading around a puppy and then saying No. My parents used to do shit like that all the time (bring a dog home, return him to the shelter when he did something wrong) and I'm STILL angry at them for it in a small, resentful kind of way.
Can we please stop arguing about religious beliefs and get back to what counts? Tiny Tom, Annoying Katie, and Messed-Up Suri!
Submitted by kokoskitten on Sun, 07/15/2012 - 9:12pm.
These (new?) pictures of Suri throwing a tantrum because (allegedly) Katie wouldn't buy her a puppy are ...well, just Suri being Suri.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2174057/Suri-Cruise-left-fl...
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Interesting. Poor Suri :(
Katie Holmes needs to cut the shit and stay home. I hope this backfires on her ass. I'm no TC fan but she is trotting this kid around town and abusing Suri's privacy so tremendously, it's insane. She's no better than her ex. Shame on her. That smirk will be wiped off her face.
It's summer and Katie essentially doesn't have a career. Take that kid away on vacation to Ireland or other places where no-one gives a shit (or won't know who you are) and stop parading her around like the Grande Prize Supreme. You've only won for now, honey.
Dark-sided!
These (new?) pictures of Suri throwing a tantrum because (allegedly) Katie wouldn't buy her a puppy are ...well, just Suri being Suri.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2174057/Suri-Cruise-left-fl...
Hotmami...I guess I meant people who are very angry and outspoken about their atheism. I know a couple of people like that. It makes me think they must have had an ugly run in with religion at some point in their lives.
You don't seem angry to me, though. :)
I'm not "angry" per se, but I do feel a lot of bitterness toward religion, b/c of my past. Buddhism is probably the only spiritual "path" I could imagine myself getting with...esp. since there's no actual god involved.
Whoa that's a big FUcK YOU to Xenu!!! Katie said take that shit Xenu!!!
There really is a God. We are all part of it although I think we are located in his left testicle.
"Submitted by Chris Eccleston... on Sun, 07/15/2012 - 11:18am."
LOL your'e right, always keep them guessing.:)
i have a feeling Suri is going to wreak all the havoc she can, go girl!
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Two quotes by Einstein. I particularly enjoy the last one.
"In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views."
"I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangements of the books, but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God.
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einstein was certainly not a christian, clear-cut or otherwise. He was vehemently opposed to the idea of a personal god. To Einstein, the universe was, essentially "god." But he did not ascribe any personality, wants, consciousness, etc, to this "entity."
And i think it is quite correct to say that he held the position that until you can define something you can't say whether or not it exist. How one defines "god" is different from religion to religion and even person to person.
But once you've gone as far as einstein did... then why call it "god" at all? why not just call it "the universe."
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Submitted by crazyinjapan on Sun, 07/15/2012 - 5:29pm.
Yeah. Maybe Einstein was getting at that it is wrong to assume the nature of god. Let alone to form a religion based on what we think god wants or approves of. Which I kind of like, hah!
Einstein quote:
"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings."
It seems that he believed in some type of deity, but he was not a religious traditionalist.
Submitted by crazyinjapan on Sun, 07/15/2012 - 5:13pm.
Einstein was not really a clear-cut Christian. In his letters, there are quotable examples from which you can read that hint toward his being agnostic or a doubting Christian.
Einstein was born a Jew, but his personal convictions about an intelligent being were not of the norm for his day. I wouldn't go so far as to say he was atheist, but he held no assumptions about god, either. I think he may have liked the idea of a god that created things, but had no care about a person's personal life and in some of his writings, he has described himself as a "religious nonbeliever." Maybe that means: yes, I believe in a god, but it is vain to assume this god intermingles with our lives.
Submitted by Andrei on Sun, 07/15/2012 - 3:48pm.
Dog:
Can you also tell me which minds (scientists?) are those progressive ones you speak of that believe in god and science as one?
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Einstein. Though you are right, the vast majority of educated, serious scientists are not religious. I know that I've read that in a few places, but I don't remember the exact stats.
A fact? Interesting.
Submitted by Andrei on Sun, 07/15/2012 - 5:04pm.
Dog:
Using the Bible to support the Bible? ;) Tee hee.
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To prove a point and a fact.
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Submitted by DiamondDogs on Sun, 07/15/2012 - 4:59pm.
I am also fond of Joseph Campbell. :)
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Dog:
Using the Bible to support the Bible? ;) Tee hee.
Submitted by DiamondDogs on Sun, 07/15/2012 - 4:59pm.
I am also fond of Joseph Campbell. :)
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. - Hebrews 11:1 NKJV
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I'm happy Suri is going to Catholic School. She can reject it later if she wants.
I'm a Christian and MichaelK makes me happy. There I said it. He's queer and he's proud, and I love him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Very healthy debate going on in here!
Curious minds are open minds and its healthy to examine all aspects of faith and spirituality.
I for one, loved Christopher Hitchens, who was a fantastic debater of atheism and well versed in literature and had a steel trap mind. I also love reading the Psalms and often look to the teachings of Christ as a guidepost for living. Buddhism also fascinates me because it is about living in the moment and taking full responsibility for one's actions without fear or judgement.
So, at the end of the day, I don't know the answer but I'm still seeking some kind of peace. Maybe, just hoping that there is a life better than the one we know now.
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Evidence: Most agree that Jesus lived. Was a person who lived on this earth. Most people believe his teachings: Don't lie, be honest, love your neighbor, etc. were good teachings. Correct? He was a good teacher?
I also hate Sundays. That's why I'm crabby today. Kidding. ;)
Anyway, beliefs aside, I'd still like to meet you in person. You don't seem like one of those folks in these small towns I live in who act like they don't want you to help them and when you do, either resent it or act jealous somehow even if you were just trying to be helpful all along. Lol.
Submitted by Andrei on Sun, 07/15/2012 - 4:45pm.
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Submitted by Andrei on Sun, 07/15/2012 - 4:52pm.
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Submitted by mefunigirl on Sun, 07/15/2012 - 4:29pm.
Just an observation:
I think that a person who is a misogynist, schemer, and bigoted has very little to do with religious belief or unbelief, but something deeper inside since we all have the choice to believe in a religion or not. :)
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Submitted by Andrei on Sun, 07/15/2012 - 4:45pm.
HAHA! I can think of TONS of Christians who don't always practice what they preach, including me. I get upset at people who are judgmental but then I realize I've just been judgmental about something. Drives me crazy because in no way do I have justification for being judgmental and I want one. Since I'm not perfect, I am in no position to judge anyone whether I'm doing what they're doing or not. None of is perfect - we are all works in progress.
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I'm a christian, non denominational. I couldn't care less if you are or if you're not. You're business to choose and not choose. We all this with legislation and codified laws we don't agree with. Goes both ways.
Submitted by Dog on Sun, 07/15/2012 - 4:26pm.
Yep. :) I can accept the fact that not all atheists are very mature about their viewpoints. My coworker has an atheist friend... well... exfriend, more or less, who belittles her and says she is pretty stupid for having a religious faith.
To me, that is just dumb. USUALLY.. I bring up religion only when the other person does in real life. Or, if I feel it is appropriate to announce I am an atheist without trying to come off as sounding like I am trying to challenge the other person.. which kind of makes me a little mad, too. I'd like to be able to say I am atheists without eyebrows raising.
Also, I only start to "care" about others' beliefs when I feel like they intentionally try to make me feel like a bad person for being an atheist or if I feel like I might get shot for announcing that I am an atheist and happiest this way. Living in Oklahoma, in an all-white town, I know many examples where Christians don't practice what they preach, but I also know that not everyone is that way.
I'm a proponent of being nice to everyone... and using nature and science to try to support a deity or not just makes me sad. It just does. I am fine with that person saying they believe and leaving it at that.
Submitted by VenusVibeTrap on Sun, 07/15/2012 - 4:42pm.
Excuse me? I don't even know who you are. Your post either addresses topics I wasn't even touching on or it grossly distorts what I was. flamer much?
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Dog, without evidence... it is a fantasy. It's something you (or anyone else) has made up to make them comfortable. Why do you think it's hostile? It's just a statement based on reason. God belief is fantastical.
And I never said that people who are NOT believers are NOT misogynistic,bigoted, etc. I said that religion JUSTIFIES those positions.
I live in the United States. Where religiosity is all but required to for public office. Where text books and science classes are altered so as not to offend the fantastical beliefs of the dominant cult. Where I am expected to support someone else's delusion through use of public property or tax dollars.
THIS is what non-believers fight against, not the "things of god" as you or someone else blathered on.
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Submitted by mefunigirl on Sun, 07/15/2012 - 3:41pm.
why is it such a hard concept for believers to get that it's not your fantasy that we are opposed to... but they fact that it is used to justify bigotry, misogyny, division and a host of other issues.
See now, there's the very thing I am pointing out. You call something which is a very spiritual belief a fantasy...why the hostility? why do you care? I don't care what you believe in, or not believe in.
I am not knocking your lack of belief, just merely pointing out your hostility at mine.
I may have missed it, but I didn't see anyone of faith in this thread call a non-believer "a fool" "crazy" comparing it to a crazed cult, or anything else for that matter.
And if you think there aren't non-believers who are bigots, misogynists or who also don't have a "host of other issues" OR participate in lawmaking, you are very mistaken.
Are there religious zealots? yes of course, but I'm noticing in my old age and in this thread, that there are also non-believer zealots as well.
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Submitted by Dog on Sun, 07/15/2012 - 4:09pm.
I am a lay person? :)
And while it is not my intent to be condescending, I initially wished to set the record straight about atheists because I do admittedly get a bit defensive when I read statements that are incorrect about us.
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As do I when people (not you) lump all Christians in with the bible-thumping Jesus shouters out there. :-)
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Submitted by Dog on Sun, 07/15/2012 - 4:09pm.
I am a lay person? :)
And while it is not my intent to be condescending, I initially wished to set the record straight about atheists because I do admittedly get a bit defensive when I read statements that are incorrect about us.
Submitted by Andrei on Sun, 07/15/2012 - 4:07pm.
I'm fully versed in Higgs Boson and have been since I first heard about it many years ago. I don't need an explanation from a lay person. I'm wondering why you are being so aggressive when I'm just expressing my own views. You get like this every time a discussion on religion comes up.
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Submitted by Dog on Sun, 07/15/2012 - 3:51pm.
Got a link to the interviews?
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I read them back when the LHC came on line. Didn't know I'd need them all this time later. I'm sensing from you antagonism and I'm not understanding why.
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Dog:
About the "god particle":
The Higgs boson is part of a theory first proposed by physicist Peter Higgs and others in the 1960s to explain how particles obtain mass.
The theory proposes that a so-called Higgs energy field exists everywhere in the universe. As particles zoom around in this field, they interact with and attract Higgs bosons, which cluster around the particles in varying numbers.
Imagine the universe like a party. Relatively unknown guests at the party can pass quickly through the room unnoticed; more popular guests will attract groups of people (the Higgs bosons) who will then slow their movement through the room.
The speed of particles moving through the Higgs field works much in the same way. Certain particles will attract larger clusters of Higgs bosons - and the more Higgs bosons a particle attracts, the greater its mass will be.
(How does this entice a belief in a god? This finding is so much more interesting to me if I just think about it as it is without the debate of a deity. Sigh. But that is the overall hype of this material. Sad.)
Submitted by Anonymouse73 on Sun, 07/15/2012 - 3:59pm.
I honestly think it's b/c they probably grew up in very religious households and now they are bitter about the whole experience and about religion, in general.
Um. No. My household wasn't religious, I only got forced to go to church during the period I mentioned, and to top the thing off, my mom let it be known why I was there, so I got some looks. However, that was the time where I decided that when I was on my own that religion was not going to have a place in my life.
I'm not bitter about religion, I just don't see it as a necessity for myself.
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Dog, you must live a very limited existence if you've only come across non-believers who are "bitter" because of a bad experience or because they prayed and something didn't happen (prayer: how to act like you're doing something when, in reality, you are doing nothing at all).
I've never believed in god(s). I've read the bible cover to cover... some parts more than once (sorry, numbers i could only tolerate once)... studied other popular religions, studied philosophy and ethics.
I know a large number of atheists both IRL and online... and I don't know a single one who "turned from god" for the reasons you state. Most of them just used reason and evaluated the evidence (or lack thereof) and realized that the most rational position is that of the null position with regard to god belief.
Submitted by mefunigirl on Sun, 07/15/2012 - 3:41pm.
^^^ said something about people "fighting against a god they don't believe in"
why is it such a hard concept for believers to get that it's not your fantasy that we are opposed to... but they fact that it is used to justify bigotry, misogyny, division and a host of other issues.
If you could just pray in your closet like jesus told you to rather than trying to legislate your fantasy into codified laws... then we wouldn't care. But religion is constantly there with its followers pushing against progress... stem cells, nature of the universe, etc. Or it's fighting to keep a status quo that is unfair to others.
I don't want my taxes going to religious schools. I don't want my public property to be used to promote your fantasy. I don't want my leaders asking their imaginary friend whether they ought to bomb some other country.
Get it?
Submitted by Dog on Sun, 07/15/2012 - 3:51pm.
Got a link to the interviews?
I honestly think it's b/c they probably grew up in very religious households and now they are bitter about the whole experience and about religion, in general. Or else they see people like Pat Robertson who is so very very punchable and it pisses them off to see people sending their hard-earned money to this scheister.It's not that they secretly believe in god...it's that they are finally speaking out about it after having religion shoved down their throats for years. I'm not atheist, I'm agnostic, but I know in my case that's sort of true.
As for creationism, sure there was a Big Bang, but there's no actual *proof* that it had a supernatural cause. I need proof. That's just me. Nature being beautiful isn't enough.
And the human body is far from perfectly-made. If it were, why would be age? A "perfect" body shouldn't wear out. The human heart is only made to beat so many beats within a lifetime...and then it stops, even if the person lives the healthiest life ever. The heart is only made to beat so many times. That doesn't bespeak perfection, to me. Most faces and bodies aren't even symmetrical. (i.e. - my two ears aren't even the same). That's why when someone with a symmetrical face like Denzel comes along, we think he's especially good-looking. *shrug* I just don't see proof of supernatural beings in any of it. But I don't care how people choose to think of the universe...as long as they leave me alone about it. I used to have to "minister" to strangers on the street and I still feel a little sick about it.
"Submitted by Dog on Sun, 07/15/2012 - 1:53pm.
Atheists don't believe God exists at all, right? So why is it atheists are always protesting the things of God? Why are they protesting something they don't believe even exists? "