Friday, August 17th 2012

Joey Kovar From The Real World: Hollywood Has Passed Away

Joey Kovar from The Real World: Hollywood and Celebrity Rehab was found dead this morning at a friend's house in Chicago. Joey's rep tells TMZ that his friend found him with blood coming out of his nose and ears. (Here's a kitten video of you need one to wash away that last sentence.) Joey was only 29 years old and he leaves behind a daughter.

Joey left The Real World: Hollywood halfway through filming to go to rehab to treat his addiction to booze. Joey came back to the house after 30 days, but left for good, because he was afraid that being there would drive him back to the bottle. At The Real World: Hollywood reunion, he said that he had been sober for around 10 months. But a year later, Joey checked into the third season of Dr. Drew's Celebrity Rehab, because he wanted to kick his addictions to booze, coke, steroids and other bad shit.

One of Joey's friends tells E! News that he was completely off illegal shit, but he was popping pills like crazy, "He was prescribed anti-anxiety meds, but he would take so many, he didn't like the way it made him feel. So he would take Adderall to bring himself back up. I have a feeling his body being pulled in two different directions just overloaded his heart."

 Joey is the third Real Worlder and the fourth Celebrity Rehabber to pass away.

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OneLiner wrote:
Do you know how other people in other places of the world???? do you know about violence, poverty, rape???....do know what those people have to endure??? do you think they have a pill to help them get through that? I think its about overcoming the "dark places" and not getting stuck in them....and I apologize if Im being insensitive, this is just my opinion

As a matter of fact, I DO know about people in other places of the world, and while they don't all "have a pill to help them get through", you can damn sure bet that they've figured out how to ferment something to create alcohol, or which plant or bug or reptile to eat, smoke, snort, drink, inject or smear on their skin in order to alter their mental state so they can distance themselves from things that are causing them pain. Glad that you, little Jesus that you are, can make yourself 'get out of' those 'dark places', but not everyone has been gifted with your magical powers. The human condition is such that it will ALWAYS seek out ways to numb pain, block out sorrow and create a false joy as a means of self-preservation...
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Mhm, an overdose of alcohol, cocaine and viagra - I'm not so sure if I pity him.

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Submitted by lalamaria on Sat, 08/18/2012 - 6:11am.
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Cannot add anything more to all of the fabulous support and advice already posted here, but just wanted to send you a 'hang in there' as cliche as it is. The first few weeks will probably be the toughest. You've stepped up to take care of yourself for you and for your family....always remember that.

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@Migraneuse, "Then again, sometimes people around here show signs of a clue, which puts the D way ahead of most gossip sites."

Overall, on the D, beneath the cold, cold snarky surface I do love and enjoy and laugh with, a warm heart beats. I joined this site, what, way back in 2004?, and the "regulars" step up when a case is clearly very sad, and out of one's control, especially in cases of mental illness.

To all of you who have shared so openly your struggles with depression, you've got my support, and I wish you the very best in managing your illness. It isn't easy, I know, but hang in there.

Within Reason..thanks. You're a good egg!

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Submitted by lalamaria on Sat, 08/18/2012 - 6:11am.
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Oh, lalamaria, I hope you take care of yourself. It's can be true that the most dangerous time for depressed people is the very beginning when they start taking anti-depressants because they don't kick in immediately and the person expects to feel better right away. Hon, the sooner you start them, the sooner you'll know if they'll work for you and if your doctor needs to adjust anything.

No one pill is guaranteed to be the right thing for everyone. What you've been prescribed may be just the thing to help you out of the worst of what you're feeling and give you some clarity of thought - it doesn't need to make you a ray of sunshine at all, it's just a hand out of the hole of depression.

Please make sure you take care of yourself. If you had the strength to see a doctor and start the process, take the step down the road you started. There's no reason you have to stay there but at least you'll be moving.

These meds will not kill you or make you into a monster. If you ever have concerns, feel strange, worry - call your doctor. That's what he/she is there for and if they're worth anything, they'll take the time to help you.

Be safe.

Snowball, Amen!

I get so tired of hearing people always blame prescription meds that have helped more people than they have ever hurt.

Anyone who gets a prescription knows full well that you aren't supposed to pop them like candy and you aren't supposed to drink while on them.

The deceased is at fault for taking the drugs irresponsibly.

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Submitted by Fujicat on Sat, 08/18/2012 - 3:07am.
ITA, with your ENTIRE post Fujicat. Also everyone else who's stepped it up when others needed it. ☺

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When Judy Garland was found dead by her homosexual 'husband' he said that 'blood came from her nose and mouth'

Perhaps this queen was trying to do a "Judy Garland" OD!

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Submitted by lalamaria on Sat, 08/18/2012 - 6:11am.
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lalamaria, it's always good to be cautious if you have never taken those meds before but I agree with Impertinent Vixen you could try them and see if they work for you or go back to your doctor to try something else! Not all meds are as effective for everyone so it's worth a try to see if they provide any relief and help you sleep and give you any peace of mind. You and the kids deserve it. I see you come in here from time to time, please keep up posted. Feel better lalamaria. :)

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Submitted by lalamaria on Sat, 08/18/2012 - 6:11am.
Well I don't know much about this guys story but it's very sad for his family...I myself have found myself for the first time in my life in the biggest mess of depression anxiety panic ever-the past two weeks nothing has brought me any joy I can't eat sleep or function except I have to for my three kids. I'm sitting here staring at the meds I was prescribed yesterday-I have never taken any meds for this before and wondering if I shd take them at all...reading these comments it's a bit of a comfort knowing others deal with these things too and I feel a little less alone even tho I still feel like I can't breathe half the time....

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Please give the meds a chance. Without paroxetine, I would be in a rubber room or under the wheels of a train. A combination of what life handed me and my brain chemistry made existence exceedingly difficult and joyless....this medicine has improved my life in innumerable ways. It has not made me numb but rather put into sharper focus what is important and what is not, calmed the anxiety I felt about every situation, and created an overall healthier atmosphere for me and my family. Don't count them out; try it. I believe there are more horror stories from people not on or going off meds than there are being on them.

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I read all these comments because I'm drinking my morning coffee. Good luck to all of you trying to cope. I was surprised nobody mentioned magnesium therapy. It doesn't interact with drugs and helps lots of folks. Try a couple hours in a float tank and see if you don't feel better. The flakes are low cost so you can make your own oil if you can't find a tank. Really, read up on it. It's simple and worth a try if you're suffering.

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Okay, nevermind. OneLiner came back and decided to really, really NOT get it about depression.

I don't know what's wrong with you and I don't care to. I've decided the best thing to do is pity you. As much as you've claimed that you've seen "the dark side," I have to doubt that you have. No one who has could treat people with depression the way you have.

And that's all the time I'm going to waste on you.

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I've bitten my tongue through OneLiner's comments because they seem to be well-intentioned if a little dismissive of people with depression.

But. This.

Submitted by oceanlover998 on Fri, 08/17/2012 - 11:02pm.
...RIP Joey...you seemed like a really nice kid...

...I know that SSRIs (prozac, zoloft, etc.) have helped many people deal with depression and other issues, but they scare the flying f*ck out of me...

...almost every time someone goes off the deep end and commits an atrocity these days, they are invariably on some form of SSRI...

No. They're not. The highly publicized ones that involve SSRIs? They stick in your head because the news hammers it in there. But by far, the vast majority of violent crimes do not involve SSRIs.

...and speakig of abuse being a high risk factor, a close colleague of mine went thru hell the past 2 years as he and his wife helped his daughter deal with being attacked and molested...

...she's alright now after extensive therapy and meds, but she related to my friend that during the first week on SSRIs and the several weeks being weaned off of them she thought she heard voices telling her to do awful things to herself and others...

Auditory hallucinations are one of the rarest side effects of SSRIs and it's warned about on the package insert. Suicidal thoughts are a side effect and any decent prescriber worth his license would have told your friend's daughter to contact him immediately if she had them. Weaning off can be difficult for a very small percentage of people but if done properly, it can be very safe.

...she recognized those voices as some freaky side effect of the drugs and didn't do anything crazy, but was scared sh*tless...

see above

...not to mention the horrific physical side effects and potentially fatally drug interactions for which SSRIs are notorious...

Every drug has side effects, even Tylenol. You balance the positive outcome vs. the negative and decide whether it's worth it to you. Many of the side effects go away when you've been on the correct dosage for a while. SSRIs do not have "notorious" fatally interactions. That's a horrible generalization and I have no idea where you pulled that from. All drugs have interactions and a good prescriber will be watching for them. All medication needs to be taken in balance, at the right dosage for that person and in the right combination with other things that person is doing. It's a process that doesn't end with the person walking into the office and walking out with a script.

...I think if at all possible a person should try to avoid these drugs and try to take a more naturopathic approach to mental and physical healing...

If you've read this far, you deserve a big, giant cookie. I'm sorry for the smallish rant, but this is something I'm hugely passionate about and it upsets me to see misinformation out there that stigmatizes people who use anti-depressants or could cause them not to even seek information about them because they're afraid they'll turn into a monster if they take them.

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Submitted by SandwichQueen on Sat, 08/18/2012 - 12:27am.
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SQ: ((Hugs)) and for all dealing with this and being ridiculed for it. Not all people feel this way. It's very unfortunate that those of us most educated, are either those of us suffering, or those in the psychatric/psychological communitity, or just those of us, who have seen others close to us go through this pain and CAN NOT dismiss what they saw.

Sandwhich Queen,I am soooo sorry your own flesh and blood is doing this to you. Please continue to fight for your own well-being, and find like minded, loving caring individuals who love and support you, and please don't listen to ignorance.
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--((hugs)) back at ya EvilShoe and Within...thanks!

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Thanks for sharing that. ((hug)). Glad to hear that something saved your life so that you are here right now!!! Life is precious. :) Happy that the therapy has been working out for you. Finding the right mode of therapy often is just as challenging as finding the right combination of medications. Perhaps even moreso. I think I went through 5 before I found the right therapist. She made me WORK and I mean work during sessions plus with homework and I am so, so happy that I did the hard work.

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It is always unfortunate when the minority of bad cases gets more publicity and people just jump on the anti-psychiatry train. Our brains are essential and I think people are just scared. It makes me so happy that you were able to find something that helped you help yourself during dark periods. : )

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LOVE your philosophy!! Get to your Dr. and let me know that this stuff is not for you! There must be something else they can prescribe. Keep us updated.

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Your a fucking rockstar!! Thanks for your input. : ) Stigma unfortunately, is still the biggest barrier of people seeking treatment for their mental illness. I am happy though, that things DO seem to be coming along. Look at the military, for example. I know it is far from solved (soldiers still taking their own lives, so much substance misuse), but it does seem like men are more likely now to come forward and seek treatment than they were years ago. "Toughing it out" is an outdated attitude that HAS TO GO!!

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Your comment brought a tear to my eye. You are being proactive with YOUR life - a responsible adult. I am just so, so sorry that your mother is not supporting you in this. I really, really, hope you have friends who are. Hang in there and keep going with your therapy.
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I sometimes lose hope in human empathy as well. I mean, I have never been addicted to anything but I would never think to judge someone who is or who has been. It's a pain and ongoing torment that I wish nobody had to experience.

*apologies for the long-ass post here guys. as many of you know I work in mental health (not clinically, but with the families) and I can get carried away with this stuff. It's late so many won't bother reading anyway!!

Take care of one another!

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Submitted by Fujicat on Sat, 08/18/2012 - 3:07am.

Wish that were true, but when Amy Winehouse died there was a ton of shit talking about her.

Perhaps it's unrealistic to expect much compassion from a gossip site, when hating on others is pretty much its only reason for existence.

Then again, sometimes people around here show signs of a clue, which puts the D way ahead of most gossip sites.

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Well I don't know much about this guys story but it's very sad for his family...I myself have found myself for the first time in my life in the biggest mess of depression anxiety panic ever-the past two weeks nothing has brought me any joy I can't eat sleep or function except I have to for my three kids. I'm sitting here staring at the meds I was prescribed yesterday-I have never taken any meds for this before and wondering if I shd take them at all...reading these comments it's a bit of a comfort knowing others deal with these things too and I feel a little less alone even tho I still feel like I can't breathe half the time....

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I can't stand the phrase "passed away". Why try to sugarcoat death?

He didn't go somewhere, he died! Say it like it is.

RIP.

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Depression & MI are devastating.

I understand how someone could take their own life. I wish I didn't know that, but I do, which leads me to one of my biggest peeves: someone telling me to "smile!" when I'm feeling low as fuck. These are the people who should experience debilitating depression for just a moment so they can understand how asinine their suggestion really is. Misguided as it may be, I think that could go a long way toward real human intra-understanding (if that Franken-word makes sense to anyone), at least on this topic.

And I feel so bad for his family.

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This is a very sad story.

It is refreshing to see how many people on The D have a heart, compassion and understanding for people who are in psychological/spiritual pain.

While we routinely snark, when it comes to a tragic death or someone getting badly hurt, like Blossom, for example, I do believe the people of The D step up and are all class. This is what separates this site from other gossip sites.

Those few in this post who are saying mean things about people who are mentally ill and/or who have died from substance abuse, let it be clear you have crossed a line. It is uncool to be cruel.

I swear, if Blohan died tomorrow, the people here would be really decent about her death, just as they were with Winehouse. And if this site was ever overrun with the ilk of people who kick the dead, I'd be out of here in a flash.

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Well, Well, Well, I see we have a troll in the thread...No one feed it...

This isn't directed at anyone in particular. ;)
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Submitted by how dare you on Sat, 08/18/2012 - 2:31am.
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Mouth breather, go take a seat with oneliner and stay the fuck away from the rest of the normal people, you dumb cunt, please and thank you.

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Submitted by boredasfuckyo on Sat, 08/18/2012 - 1:46am.

Yeah, you are pretty much a dumbass. I get the impression you're about 17, so it's ok.

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Submitted by OneLiner on Sat, 08/18/2012 - 1:59am.
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Because those us who are in dark places currently aren't struggling to "turn negatives in to positives" every fucking day of our lives? Right? We're only prolonging our ability to be happy because we get off on it, because everyone who is fighting their battle with a mental disorder are really just emotional masochists. Thats what you're insinuating..

I can't address this person anymore. As I said, this is a touchy subject to me, and I have a very low threshold when it comes to the ignorance of others on this topic.
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Submitted by boredasfuckyo on Sat, 08/18/2012 - 1:46am.
Submitted by OneLiner on Sat, 08/18/2012 - 12:28am.
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Oneliner, I dislike people with misguided mentalities such as yours. You have the "Atleast you're not XYZ worse off situation." mentality that makes people ashamed to get help in the first place out of guilt. Seriously. fuck you. All snark aside from the bashing we do on the shit celebrities bitch about... in life, all the problems we have, someone WILL always have it better off or worse off than us, HOWEVER that does not mean, that that makes our own inner struggles invalid or any less painful, nor does it mean they should be dismissed because some poor unfortunate soul went through XYZ. NOR does it give anyone the right to trivilize them. Thats not how problems work. Thats not how human emotion work. And I am not about to sit here and justify my gratefulness for the physical things I have because people are struggling and starving in Africa. Physical needs and being in a state of emotional dispair are TWO different things and I fucking refuse to have some fucking asshole such as yourself try to make me feel guilty for my own personal darkness. So with all due respect. Fuck yourself.

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Submitted by OneLiner on Sat, 08/18/2012 - 12:28am.
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Oneliner, I dislike people with misguided mentalities such as yours. You have the "Atleast you're not XYZ worse off situation." mentality that makes people ashamed to get help in the first place out of guilt. Seriously. fuck you. All snark aside from the bashing we do on the shit celebrities bitch about... in life, all the problems we have, someone WILL always have it better off or worse off than us, HOWEVER that does not mean, that that makes our own inner struggles invalid or any less painful, nor does it mean they should be dismissed because some poor unfortunate soul went through XYZ. NOR does it give anyone the right to trivilize them. Thats not how problems work. Thats not how human emotion work. And I am not about to sit here and justify my gratefulness for the physical things I have because people are struggling and starving in Africa. Physical needs and being in a state of emotional dispair are TWO different things and I fucking refuse to have some fucking asshole such as yourself try to make me feel guilty for my own personal darkness. So with all due respect. Fuck yourself.

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Submitted by cr1039 on Sat, 08/18/2012 - 12:55am.

29 is far too old to OD, grow up.
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Is that supposed to be funny?

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I usually don't care for showoff meatheads but I do think it's sad that he could not seek help in the end and left a little girl behind. It was probably a mix of a rough childhood, substance abuse, low self esteem and depression, IMO.

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wah wah wah, shoulda used a condom and MTV is partly liable.

29 is far too old to OD, grow up.

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sandwichqueen, unless your mom is a therapist herself, I don't know how she'd count herself an expert. In this case, it's between you and your doctor, if it works, why rock the boat? Good on you for standing up and taking control of your health! Hope she comes around soon but in the meantime, be well!

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Submitted by boredasfuckyo - I hate to say that I would wish that darkness on anyone, but some people JUST really need to feel that feeling of hopelessness and neverending grey and like there is no light at the end of the tunnel before they open their mouths.
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THIS. I've had severe depression since I was in high school, anxiety all my life, been taking meds for 5 years now, and been seeing a therapist. Last week my mother yelled at me for going to therapy, "forbade" me from continuing with it (I still live at home, but I'm still going to go!) and asked if my 'happy pills' warped my brain. She told me "everybody feels like shit sometimes, and we don't all have therapists and happy pills to get through it!"
I've seen some really nasty comments about this man on other sites (especially TMZ), just as ignorant-sounding as my mother. This guy was clearly very ill, and it's sad that so many don't seem to really understand the depth of the issues. Side note, he is (was) only 1 year older than me. Weird.

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Bacony, *fondles in return* haha ;p

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The sad thing about modern medicine is that we are ALL left to advocate our own personal situations. You have an issue? Don't trust your doc for the end-all answers. While I have been grateful to have some good quality care, in the end, I trust my pharmy. He/she seems more educated about side effects, particularly if you are trying to go the natural route, but are still taking Rx meds.

Not to get into a dissertation, but I feel that so many of our problems are due to our dependence on fast/pre-made foods. We are loosing the ability to cook at home and sit around the family table. Am I guilty? Sure. I got caught in an unplanned-for traffic/cluster fuck yesterday. Wendy's. Anyone need their road repaired? I am sure that I can fill in a few pot holes.

End of rant. Off to groom Hot Lips. Fondles to all.

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Submitted by Flowbie on Fri, 08/17/2012 - 10:12pm.
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While I am sorry for what you have gone through, and encourage you keep up fighting the good fight in your recovery, please don't think that just because those medications didn't work for other people that it was due to those said people abusing them. That's just not true at all.I don't know if that's how you intended it to sound or not, but that's how it came off. I just want to make it clear, just because it doesn't work for others, doesn't mean it's the result of the patient not taking them properly or abusing them.

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Really? Is ANYBODY supposed to feel bad for this simple minded, weak willed douchebag? Good riddance! It's just natures way of thinning the herd.

I have great sympathy for people who suffer from depression and anxiety. There isn't any "snap out of it."

That said, I really hate the bashings that pharmaceuticals get. Taken properly, they help more people than they hurt.

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Submitted by Flowbie on Fri, 08/17/2012 - 10:12pm.
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In other words you are a success story. Ya people can be judgmental, but what matters more is that you are better and able to function on your own. Continue doing whatever you are doing Flowbie! Many abuse the meds but for those who need them, and use them properly they are a godsend! Be strong! ((hugs))

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Submitted by Daniee on Fri, 08/17/2012 - 6:26pm.
Submitted by OneLiner on Fri, 08/17/2012 - 6:16pm.
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While everyone here is entitled to uninformed and clearly uneducated opinions, I would just you to know that persistent mental illness and suicide (not saying that was HIS cause of death) is in no way related to laziness or self-pity.
I have managed an anxiety disorder nearly all of my life (although, thankfully, not with a concurrent disorder of drug dependence) and have had moments when things "feel" (it is not only psychological, it is physical as well) overwhelming to an alarming point.
People who have not coped did not leave their families behind on purpose.
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I have to agree. This is a very VERY touchy subject for me. I really and I mean really dislike it when people say, "I quit being sad" Or " don't allow yourself to be sad/miserable" anymore. As if those of us who constantly live in dark places and just over all hopelessness at times CHOOSE to feel that way. People who have never been in that mindset don't understand, so THEY assume since THEY can not relate to it, and can't see it like an outside wound, it's not real, or someone making excuses. And it really bothers me how ignorant people are.

I hate to say that I would wish that darkness on anyone, but some people JUST really need to feel that feeling of hopelessness and neverending grey and like there is no light at the end of the tunnel before they open their mouths.

With that being said, I HATE the medications they have out for mental illness. It's so dangerous and does so many terrible things to ones health, and can even make the mental condition worse. Not that there aren't some medications that give people relief, but the side-effects blow my mind. There is so much that people do not understand if they haven't been to that place. And it really angers me that mental illness still has a large stigma attached to it. People either think you're full of shit and lazy, and just need to jog it off(right tommy, girl?) or just an incompotent looney. I especially hate it when it's thrown around in arguements, like ammo against you. People who do that need to be smacked upside the head.
To quote Bill Clinton,“Mental illness is nothing to be ashamed of, but stigma and bias shame us all.”

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Flowbie, stay strong, and thanks for your openness.

Antidepressants can be a double-edged sword, but I'm certain they saved my life at one point, too.

Anyone who judges too harshly is either motivated by fear, or just doesn't know better.....

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