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Submitted by Tigerlilly on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 10:46pm.

But how can anyone prove that he didn't think that they were 18 when he called the gay chat line which is supposed to be for people 18 and above?
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Great thing about that is...no one HAS to prove what he thought. What he thought doesn't amount to shit-all in the long run, he had a legal responsibility to make sure they were of age.

Check their ID, then ask for their birth certificate, then ask their parents, teachers, the butcher, the baker and the fucking candlestick maker first...then remember everyone lies and check the fuck again.

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Submitted by Meatblocks on Sat, 12/31/2011 - 10:17am.
it ain't awesome until flatts shits on it.

Submitted by snowpiece on Wed, 07/08/2009 - 5:00pm.
Karen Flatts is always a cunt

So, I guess now we're playing that favorite game of gay hustlers, "Who wants to be a gold digger?" This whole thing is just wrong on all sorts of levels; ain't nobody escaping this story alive...

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Submitted by TelevisedRevolution on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 11:24pm.
and the fact that the boys lied about their ages initially doesn't mean shit, because clearly he found out what ages they actually were, and continued to be sexual with them. He thought he was being slick by not putting his dick inside them until they were 18 - so he KNEW THAT THEY WEREN'T 18 BEFORE THAT!

yes, I think they are gold-diggers now, but that doesn't mean that there can't be histories of sexual abuse, trauma, incest, etc

Clash knew they were underage when he started messing with them. The actual acts that he did or didn't do with them, and when he did them, are irrelevant, except to prove that he was well aware of their real ages. He was engaging in sexual activity with children, and he knew they were - the fact that he waited until their 18th birthdays to fuck them proves it.
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I knew there were going to be more kids involved. You're right, why else would he wait to penetrate them? Perver is guilty.

Submitted by Foxxy Brown on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 11:25pm.

good point, Foxxy.

*leaves out a plate of hemp seed for Big Bird*

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Submitted by TelevisedRevolution on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 9:40pm.

please keep the pristine name of Big Bird offa that list of wastes of felt and oxygen, please

"Voodoo is forgetting who's the john and who's the whore." MK, 3/20/12

Submitted by Tigerlilly on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 10:11pm.
I wonder if all the nay-sayers would have felt the same way about Jerry Sandusky's first 3 accusers?
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apples and oranges, really.

i'm not a nay-sayer, but you really can't compare the situations just because boys/young men were involved. logically, you just can't compare the two.

and the fact that the boys lied about their ages initially doesn't mean shit, because clearly he found out what ages they actually were, and continued to be sexual with them. He thought he was being slick by not putting his dick inside them until they were 18 - so he KNEW THAT THEY WEREN'T 18 BEFORE THAT!

yes, I think they are gold-diggers now, but that doesn't mean that there can't be histories of sexual abuse, trauma, incest, etc that made these young men act out as they did, and even *feel* like willing participants at the time...who knows? Their pasts, emotional histories, etc, aren't the issue.

Clash knew they were underage when he started messing with them. The actual acts that he did or didn't do with them, and when he did them, are irrelevant, except to prove that he was well aware of their real ages. He was engaging in sexual activity with children, and he knew they were - the fact that he waited until their 18th birthdays to fuck them proves it.

Elmo thinks he's slick, but he ain't smarter than his dick.

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Submitted by Tigerlilly on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 10:46pm.

But how can anyone prove that he didn't think that they were 18 when he called the gay chat line which is supposed to be for people 18 and above?

Did these same boys meet other people on this line and have sex with them? Why aren't they suing them too?

Why did these accusations come out only when they found out that Clash was semi-famous and rich?

Believe me that I would never ever ever ever stick up for a child molester. Sandusky who knew full well how old those kids were and had sex with them against their will.

If Clash did know then he should be in trouble.. I agree, but so far he has maintained that these boys were of age when they had sex. There is a possibility that he didn't know given the circumstances of how he met these boys. That's all I'm saying.

Submitted by Cookie_Monster_ on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 5:48pm.

Now here come the pedos back out, saying "we don't KNOW if what he did was sexual assault..BLAH BLAH BLAH". So many of you sickos protecting this pedophile because he's gay.

Everyone take note of those defending this sick fuck, because they are probably doing what he's doing. So many sick bitches in this world attacking our kids.
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What a sad state of affairs this is turning out to be for everyone involved. Kevin better get out that check book as this is not going to end well for him.

Submitted by Whamo on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 4:43pm.
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I made that exact argument with regard to how people would react if the accusers were girls and had someone tell me I was "ignorant" (quite adamantly I might add) for making such assertions.
You can be sure as the day is long we'd be having a COMPLETELY different debate if these were girls and to say people would not react differently is ludicrous as well as naive

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Oh don't be so subtle, I won't. That someone was me, beebee, and I still think you're ignorant. CHEERS!

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Submitted by PrettyHateMachine on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 10:16pm.
I love how some people on here get so nasty when people don't agree with their point of view. They call you names, like ignorant, or think you like child molesters.

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It's a touchy subject and I'm NOT Team Elmo on this even though I was at first.I see where the other side is coming from. No one comes out smelling like a rose here, BUT most people who claim to have sterling reputations really just have a dead bolt lock on their closet full of skeletons AND these predator types go after troubled kids, who act out sexually often BECAUSE of prior abuse, often sexual by their own family members. But it's Ok because this mixed up kid was on a gay chat line? No, under the law it's not Ok. And for good reason. You disagree? I don't think that makes you a child molestor...but they are ALL on your side. Just sayin'.

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Sorry, Roger, you are tiger now...

I love how some people on here get so nasty when people don't agree with their point of view. They call you names, like ignorant, or think you like child molesters.

It's no wonder why some people delete their accounts.

I wonder if all the nay-sayers would have felt the same way about Jerry Sandusky's first 3 accusers?

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Sorry, Roger, you are tiger now...

And something tells me this will not be the last. *smdh* Any type of sexual activity, not just penetration, is serious if it involved any underage people. Hope this gets properly investigated and resolved.

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So a horny sixteen year old was cruising gay chatrooms and now years later wants to play the abuse card? Spare me.

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Shiitake happens...

This mess is going to need a nickname like SesameGate or Escandalo Elmo.

Submitted by Lattice Glove on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 9:36pm.

Lattice Glove, Gladys Love, Cookie Monster, Elmo and Big Bird....

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Submitted by Lisbet:

I feel terrible about saying this, but I'm wondering if people are so defensive about this guy because he's gay?

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BINGO! This seemed quite transparent by the comments that were being made since this scandal hit the media.

Thanks for verbalizing what some people have known for several weeks.

And Cookie Monster is also correct in his assessment IMO.

This gives a whole new meaning to "show me on the doll where the bad man touched you." And the look on the elmo doll is priceless

Two shameless whores trying to get a pay day even though they dont have much of a case at all... now that this guy has lost his job I hope he gives them nothing ..... these two dumbasses will end up with nothing but legal bills.

The gall of these whores is unbelievable. Twinkie bitches don't give a shit about ruining someone's life, even though most of them have been peddling their asses in gay bars or chat lines since they were 16. Makes me sick.

Submitted by Cookie_Monster_ on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 5:48pm.

Why don't you just skip the pleasantries and type:

INSERT APPLICABLE INFLAMMATORY STATEMENT HERE.
PLEASE ENGAGE ME!! SOMEONE TALK TO ME!! PAY ATTENTION TO ME!! PLEASE, GOD, SOMEONE, ANYONE, I'LL KEEP STRIKING UNTIL I FIND SOMEONE'S NERVE!! PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!

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Now here come the pedos back out, saying "we don't KNOW if what he did was sexual assault..BLAH BLAH BLAH". So many of you sickos protecting this pedophile because he's gay.

Everyone take note of those defending this sick fuck, because they are probably doing what he's doing. So many sick bitches in this world attacking our kids.

Submitted by Whamo on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 5:31pm.

Ditto. Hence the joke with the 'using the Elmo doll in court to demonstrate digital penetration' bit. Dolls are fair game. Peace!!

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Submitted by amykins on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 5:24pm.

I know we do react differently in this country if we find out a 16 year old female is sexually engaged with someone older than 18. Even if she is willing sexually engaged. We assume the other person MUST be a predator and she has no idea what she is doing. That is not always the case and it assumes 16 year old teenage girls are incapable of being genuinely sexual beings with their own desires and needs.
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I'm pretty sure that most people would think it was creepy if a 40 something man was consistently going after 16 y/os, male or female. You clearly agree with me, or else you wouldn't have written the disingenous "someone over the age of 18". You would have written "someone in his forties", and owned it. Face it, there's a big difference between a 16 y/o with, say, a 19 y/o; and a 16 y/o with a 45 y/o.

No one's denying that children and teenagers can have sexual feelings. We're saying that maybe it's unhealthy and creepy for a 40 something person to seek them out exclusively. It's also less than convincing when he tries to defend himself by claiming that he consciously waited for it to be legal before he had intercourse with them.

Submitted by Kizzy on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 5:24pm.
Submitted by Whamo on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 4:11pm.

Submitted by Lisbet459 on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 3:57pm.
Submitted by Kizzy on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 3:41pm.
Submitted by Hekki on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 3:26pm.
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I guess it's easy for people to forget, or not be aware that most sexual predators do shit like establish "beloved characters" to put themselves in positions where they are in welcomed contact with potential victims.*cough*JohnWayneGacy*cough*
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Absolutely, I just do not understand why some people find this to be so unbelievably. Of course we don't want to believe it and of course it would suck but IMO it very probable

Anyway I have to go for a while. These kinda days bum me out, I'd rather laugh and goof around!
Cheers:) :P

Submitted by amykins on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 5:24pm.

The whole "plying them with liquor" thing negates your argument. Whatever good he has done with Elmo, he literally jizzed all over when he started messing with teenage boys. He knew he was a hell of a lot older, and he knew he was seducing these much, much, younger teens. And yes, it's equally disgusting that young girls still get up on old Hef. Kendra may have been 19, but at least it's for sure true she was 19.

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Submitted by Hekki on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 5:18pm.

Lisbet, there were many comments on Gawker that there tend to be many of these older man/teenager relationships in the gay community and that many young men seek out the older men to gain experience and guidance on how to be a gay man. What it really sounded like to me was "It's a gay thing; you judgy prudes wouldn't understand."

It sounded a lot like Humbert Humbert saying "Frigid gentlewomen of the jury! [. . .] it was she who seduced me," or "Sensitive gentlewomen of the jury, I was not even her first lover"

I don't care for that line of reasoning. It's like "you can't rape a prostitute". It's this gymnastic contortion of justification. Ick.
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Well, I've met people - mostly men of a certain age, it must be said - who take Humbert Humbert at face value. So there's that.

But what really pisses me off, aside from the questionable morality, is how it looks to the socons. A number of my friends are socons, often highly religious. They're good, well intentioned people, and when they see this shit, they're horrified. They won't support a community they see as being predatory.

It hurts gay marriage, and the majority of LGBTs who live normal lives, never harm children/teenagers, and who simply want the marriage/children/jobs lifestyle. I'm sure that a lot of the commenters you mention would say that you can't judge all these people based on some very questionable people. But, in that case, they need to stop defending this guy, and stop portraying this as part of "normal" gay life.

Why has Barney been laying so low? hmmmmm.

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Submitted by Foxxy Brown on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 5:19pm.
@ whamo -- nuh nuh. i'm not saying we had a conversation. i'm saying i read the comments after the fray was over and i put up a comment that i would feel the same way if it were females.
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Well I'm not going to suggest everyone would see things differently but I would certainly suggest a hell of a lot of people would and we'd be having a different debate, how's that!?

Submitted by Whamo on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 4:11pm.

Submitted by Lisbet459 on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 3:57pm.
Submitted by Kizzy on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 3:41pm.
Submitted by Hekki on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 3:26pm.
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I guess it's easy for people to forget, or not be aware that most sexual predators do shit like establish "beloved characters" to put themselves in positions where they are in welcomed contact with potential victims.*cough*JohnWayneGacy*cough*

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"Once you go cat, you'll never go back"- Mrs.K "We wanted diamonds, sherbet, or a squirrel with a gun."-Izzard ♥♥ If you don't talk to your cat about catnip, who will? ♥♥

Has anyone watched the documentary called 'Being Elmo' about this man? It is truly touching and you do get the sense that he is a very caring and gifted individual. He did a lot of work with the make a wish foundation. He worked his way up to one of the producers of seseme street.

I think people are complicated and it's sad that this incident may destroy all that he's done.

I don't get the feeling that if you are on a hook up gay chat line that you are simply looking to eat some pizza together and watch a movie. If you meet up with someone who tells you they are in their 30's and you willing engage in play with them isn't that two people consenting to enjoy each others bodies? I know we have a line of 18 in this country but I get the feeling that none of them probably felt 'violated' until the potential for money came up.

If you listen to Dan Savage it is not that uncommon for gay male teens to have older lovers. And not in a predatory way.

I know we do react differently in this country if we find out a 16 year old female is sexually engaged with someone older than 18. Even if she is willing sexually engaged. We assume the other person MUST be a predator and she has no idea what she is doing. That is not always the case and it assumes 16 year old teenage girls are incapable of being genuinely sexual beings with their own desires and needs. We don't assume a 16 year old boy who hooks up with a 23 year old female was abused. We think he got lucky.

We need to look at individual circumstances, not just the age and sex and make assumptions.

@ whamo -- nuh nuh. i'm not saying we had a conversation. i'm saying i read the comments after the fray was over and i put up a comment that i would feel the same way if it were females. you were long gone from the discussion by the time i showed up. it might have been the first post that showed cecil's picture, not sure which post.

/ok, really gone now

"Voodoo is forgetting who's the john and who's the whore." MK, 3/20/12

Submitted by Lisbet459: "I feel terrible about saying this, but I'm wondering if people are so defensive about this guy because he's gay. Imagine if he was straight and definitely going after 15 and 16 y/o girls, and his only defense was "hey, I waited until 12:01am on their 18th birthdays for full intercourse, so you can't judge me."

Lisbet, there were many comments on Gawker that there tend to be many of these older man/teenager relationships in the gay community and that many young men seek out the older men to gain experience and guidance on how to be a gay man. What it really sounded like to me was "It's a gay thing; you judgy prudes wouldn't understand."

It sounded a lot like Humbert Humbert saying "Frigid gentlewomen of the jury! [. . .] it was she who seduced me," or "Sensitive gentlewomen of the jury, I was not even her first lover"

I don't care for that line of reasoning. It's like "you can't rape a prostitute". It's this gymnastic contortion of justification. Ick.

@ Foxxy...I'm not sure if we talked then but I wasn't referring to a conversation we'd had just the same:)

@ whammy -- yup. i was one of the late responders. i popped up real late after the discussion was over, i think

/see ya later, going back to work

"Voodoo is forgetting who's the john and who's the whore." MK, 3/20/12

Submitted by Foxxy Brown on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 4:54pm.
Submitted by Whamo on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 4:43pm.

pointing out that i said that i would NOT change my position if females were involved. i believe there were at least two other people who also said the same thing in that string of comments
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My comments were from a few days ago, is this what you're talking about?

I didn't suggest I was the only one that had this position just that I was attacked for having it.

Submitted by Whamo on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 4:43pm.

pointing out that i said that i would NOT change my position if females were involved. i believe there were at least two other people who also said the same thing in that string of comments

"Voodoo is forgetting who's the john and who's the whore." MK, 3/20/12

How about all the 18 year old girls in Playboy who also have sexual relationships with Hugh? I think Kendra was 19 when she moved into the mansion and became one of Hugh's girlfriends.

I guess even when you are calling a line and assume you are talking to adults you still need to ask for ID before like Bored said.

Does anyone know what will happen to the Elmo character now? They can't keep it going, because as soon as those toddlers grow up a little they'll find out Elmo was a pedo, just like older kids now are having to find out.

Will Elmo suffer from a sudden heart attack? Will there be a Very Special Sesame Street episode?

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Submitted by Lisbet459 on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 4:32pm.
Submitted by Whamo on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 4:11pm.

This is another case I find astounding that people find it so hard to belive a guy in the position that he's in could possibly be a young teen abuser. Why, because Elmo in an endearing figure and you just don't WANT to believe the guy controlling him is a underage boy fucker!?

How many kids will it take to come out of the wood work before people stop and think maybe JUST maybe where there is smoke there is in fact fire?
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I feel terrible about saying this, but I'm wondering if people are so defensive about this guy because he's gay. Imagine if he was straight and definitely going after 15 and 16 y/o girls, and his only defense was "hey, I waited until 12:01am on their 18th birthdays for full intercourse, so you can't judge me."

I don't think that most people would be saying, "oh, those sluts deserved it, working on sex lines, is it reeeealllly predatory, that woman looks slutty..."
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I made that exact argument with regard to how people would react if the accusers were girls and had someone tell me I was "ignorant" (quite adamantly I might add) for making such assertions.
You can be sure as the day is long we'd be having a COMPLETELY different debate if these were girls and to say people would not react differently is ludicrous as well as naive

Hasn't anyone heard of Craig's list? A phone chat line? What is this? 1991?

A predator is a predator and unfortunately the majority are intelligent. The fact that these boys worked at chat lines, the fact that he had relations with them while they were under age, the fact he had sex with them once they turned 18, the fact that they would immediately be discredited if they ever blew the whistle because of the chat line screams creepy as hell. I well laid plan.

Like some Grimm fairy tale. Like a stick in the eye. Stupid selfish jerk.

The thing that makes it hard to believe with Clash was that he was calling a phone sex line. A line in which you are supposed to be 18 in the first place to call. If these boys didn't end up hooking up with Clash they probably would have, and maybe even did, hook up with other adult man.

How do we know these boys didn't lie about their age to Clash? They were being dishonest by calling into that chat line.

And like I said before if Clash did know then he is in the wrong, but itls not like he was hanging around high schools..he was calling an adult phone line.

Submitted by Whamo on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 4:11pm.

This is another case I find astounding that people find it so hard to belive a guy in the position that he's in could possibly be a young teen abuser. Why, because Elmo in an endearing figure and you just don't WANT to believe the guy controlling him is a underage boy fucker!?

How many kids will it take to come out of the wood work before people stop and think maybe JUST maybe where there is smoke there is in fact fire?
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I feel terrible about saying this, but I'm wondering if people are so defensive about this guy because he's gay. Imagine if he was straight and definitely going after 15 and 16 y/o girls, and his only defense was "hey, I waited until 12:01am on their 18th birthdays for full intercourse, so you can't judge me."

I don't think that most people would be saying, "oh, those sluts deserved it, working on sex lines, is it reeeealllly predatory, that woman looks slutty..."

Submitted by Hekki on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 3:04pm.
All I can think about is that cute young black guy who played "Miles" on Sesame Street. I wonder if Clash tried to tap that. He was adorable.

Just googled him: Olamide Faison.

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Hekki, I wonder if he's related to Donald Faison? Turk from Scrubs and he was in clueless? Miles always had a familiar face that I couldn't put my finger on.

Submitted by Dog on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 3:36pm.
I feel badly for Clash. All of the good he has done is totally gone thanks to a couple of lying street filth. I totally believed all of the tricks who called out Revolta but I don't believe these skanks.
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I have to agree with you 1000% I'm sorry, but just, no. I don't feel any sympathy for these guys. You call a chat line at 16, YOU KNOW WHAT THE DEAL IS. You're pretending to be a consenting, legal adult.....but then want to pretend 12 years later that you were so traumatized and victimized. Give me a fucking break. My friend and I used to frequent a stupid site called hotornot when we were 16. It's a hook up site, basically. We went on there, pretending and saying that we were 18....and we hooked up with quite a few dudes, who legally would have been charged with statutory rape had they known how old we were. If I'd been into way older men, which I wasn't, and we had sexy times and shit, I don't feel like I would have a leg to stand on to make ANY accusation to him at all. If someone rapes or assaults you, then yea, by all means, make the fucker pay but if you go into it agreeing to everything, then fuck off.

Submitted by Lisbet459 on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 3:57pm.
Submitted by Kizzy on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 3:41pm.
Submitted by Hekki on Tue, 11/27/2012 - 3:26pm.

So what I'm getting is that Clash was super-aware that he was playing with fire. The first guy also said they didn't have penis-in-butt sex until he turned 18, too, didn't he?

So he was having explicit sex talk and 'foreplay' with these teenagers, but saving the Big Deed until after they turned 18. Did I get that right? Is it technically legal to stick your finger up an underage butt?

Whatever. They're all in the wrong.
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Technically, it's still fondling a minor, so still a crime. As for the rest, it's fairly standard predator "grooming" behavior. It's how they manipulate their victims emotionally. He carefully cultivated them until they were of legal age, then pounced.
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Honestly, I don't know what's creepier: that he did wait or that he didn't.

As someone else on another post said, it's hard to believe that he pursued 15 and 16 y/o boys, but waited until 12:01 am of their 18th birthdays, and then, and ONLY THEN, had full sex with them.
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That was me that said that.

This is another case I find astounding that people find it so hard to belive a guy in the position that he's in could possibly be a young teen abuser. Why, because Elmo in an endearing figure and you just don't WANT to believe the guy controlling him is a underage boy fucker!?

How many kids will it take to come out of the wood work before people stop and think maybe JUST maybe where there is smoke there is in fact fire?

I've never fucked someone who even looked like they could possibly be a teenager since I was a teen myself. When you fuck around with kids, even if the kid is trying to screw you out of money, you deserve what you get. If there's a question of doubt in your mind about a potential sex partner's age, keep your hands the fuck to yourself or be prepared to deal with the consequences - period.

This guy is a perv. Where there's smoke, there's fire. Child-touching accusations aren't a rite of passage for all rich and successful people.

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