The Eyes Of Scientology Are Watching Katie Holmes (UPDATE)
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Katie Holmes is probably used to having the eyes of Scientology handlers glued to the back of her head so she doesn't take swimming lessons, fake her death on a yacht trip, run away to a small town and fall in love with Kevin Anderson. But TMZ says that since Katie Holmes is going hard at Tommy Girl by filing for sole custody of Suri, Scientology has stepped up their spying game. For the past few weeks, two SUVs have been trailing Katie's every move on the outside and several paparazzo who regularly stalk the estranged Bride of Scientology tell TMZ that the dudes driving those SUVs are not the paparazzi or from the tabloids. Cut to Katie opening up her medicine cabinet and finding that all of the butt lube bottles in there are turned with their labels facing out. They're watching you, girl!
None of this is surprising since I'm sure the top (and bottom, and versatile) queens of Scientology are not happy that Katie is trying to take away their golden child and screwing with Princess Tommy Girl. Katie has even moved out of the NYC apartment she shared with Tommy. TMZ says that in the past few weeks, Tommy has checked into a hotel every time he's been in town and hasn't slept one night in TomKat's apartment. Katie is living in a new apartment she rented weeks ago to prepare for the day she ripped her marriage contract straight in Tommy's face. Also, Katie filed for divorce in New York, because she has a better chance of getting sole custody of Suri here. But Radar says that Tommy is taking off his earrings, putting on all his chunkiest rings and slathering his face with Vaseline, because he's ready for a fight. Tommy's lawyers will respond to Katie's divorce filing this week by asking the New York court to move the case to California. Tommy will file his own divorce papers in California for both tax reasons and Suri-getting reasons. Tommy doesn't want anyone to think their primary residence is in NYC, because that will fuck with his taxes.
I bet in a galaxy nearby, L. Ron Hubbard is punching his Thetans right in the face. Now Scientology knows that the media is watching them watching Katie's ass. But still, Katie should still go to Matt Lauer's apartment and make him drool into an empty perfume bottle. Then she needs to spray the essence of glib all over her body. Those Scientology crazies won't get near that scent. Or she can just always wear a long coat made of antidepressants. Because those creepy alien whores are scarier than John Travolta's chomping-at-the-bit anus and they're really capable of anything.
UPDATE: One of the lawyers for Scientology deny their following Katie and we should believe him, because it's not like everything that comes out of Scientology's mouth is the opposite of the truth.
Here's a few pictures of the two SUVs allegedly busting some Scientology surveillance shit on Katie. I also threw in some pictures of a sad Tommy being sad on a sad helicopter ride.
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An impartial lawyer says she will have to prove that Tom is an unfit father. Well the fact that he wants to send a six-year-old to a Sea Org. School, to be raised with the theories of Scientology, a crazy cult, being hammered into her head is enough for me!
GO KATIE!
who cares about the custody situation........what in the Granny Clampett hell is she wearing. That sweater is beyong fug
"It's a bowl of bullshit with chip scraps"
We're totally cool, EvilShoe!
Tom Cruise is gayer than a Christmas tree. He wooed Zac Efron to his home to check out his "motorcycle". Zac said this in a Details magazine interview a couple of years ago. Run Zac!!!
YOU IN DANGER GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Submitted by Juniperjump on Mon, 07/02/2012 - 10:27am.
I don't think Cruise is gay either. To be honest, the vibe I've always got from Cruise is that at some point in his youth he was sexually assaulted. I'll even go so far as to say that I've thought that the sexual assault was perpetrated by a woman. But of course, in CoS you don't talk about that stuff - you just bury it. You mix that in with a person that's got a controlling personality anyway and with the mega-celebrity lifestyle where you actually do get your way almost all of the time and it's just a recipe for psychosis IMO.
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Ah, but you're wrong. In CoS, you do talk about it. During their auditing sessions. So that they can blackmail you with it when you try to leave.
Tom Cruise suffers from a Napoleon complex. Domineering personality, always thinks he's right. I swear I see it in so many shorter men. I hope the money was worth it, Katie.
If she plays the not-bio-dad card, she'll have to explain why she requested child support. I don't think that's going to happen.
Also, totally think he's asexual, not gay.
Well, whatever he is his marriage to Nicole was business. My friend worked at CAA, she spilled the beans on that. ANd I personally saw Nicole making out with a girl at a dive bar in West Hollywood when she was married to him, so.....
"It's a bowl of bullshit with chip scraps"
She just fired her publicist and has gone back to her pre-Tom one. AND they announced that she's a film that maybe someone would actually give a shit about. LOL- girl is working fast.
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/07/02/seeking-sole-custody-doe...
Interesting and helpful read (even though it comes from Fox News). Basically explains how Katie could possibly win sole custody, but warns that she will likely need some evidence that Tommy Girl is an unfit father in order to win.
UPDATE: One of the lawyers for Scientology deny their following Katie...
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Translation: The drivers who were hired to follow her were fired. (There will be a small mention of their accidental deaths in their local paper, you know, found dead in the bathtub with no water in the lungs, a heart attack where there was no history of heart problems, a car accident due to the high levels of alcohol in the system even though friends and family swear that this person never drank...)
Submitted by MissAnnThrope on Mon, 07/02/2012 - 10:44am.
Controlling assholes will suck the life out of you...
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Amen to that.
Here's a link to an interview the actor Bronson Pinchot gave 3 years ago. He describes Tom as having a weird obsession for using the word "gay" in a dismissive manner. It's the kind of no holds barred interview I love. He also dishes on Eddie Murphy, Denzel Washington, Bette Midler, etc.
http://mobile.avclub.com/articles/bronson-pinchot,34310/?mobile=true
I don't think TC is gay, either. I think he's a small man who is rife with insecurities and demons at his back. I don't just mean rumors and Scientology and all that- I think he has a deep seated pathology of "too much is never enough" and still sees himself as the awkward dyslexic kid who needs to be fixed and that it manifests itself as a manic intensity and drawing of attention to himself in a manner he feels is the opposite of that so nobody can quietly make their own assumptions.
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I'm kinda with you guys on thinking he's not gay. I just think he's fuckin NUTS! So many interviews with him just acting kooky and spaced out. I would have been worried to live with him like Katie and Suri... He looks like he could snap, like Jack Nicholas in "The Shining".
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Re: EvilShoe on Mon, 07/02/2012 - 11:07am.
I certainly didn't mean you in particular. I meant in general. And I've been reading a lot about scientology and stuff. And I agree, it IS scary
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Re: lislop on Mon, 07/02/2012 - 11:12am.
Yeah, you're probably right. However, I can still picture him changing diapers here and there... I don't know.
Also, even if he wasn't there all the time, he's still the father figure, don't you think?
I mean, don't get me wrong, I don't have any particular love for TC, and the culty thing, yeah... I'd run away from that too.
I think what tickled me is the dismissing of father right, or love, if it happens that he's not the dad, like it would change the whole situation. What SHOULD change the situation is the scientology aspect, not biology. YMMV.
Submitted by applecider on Mon, 07/02/2012 - 10:54am.
If you mean me, I never said I can't wait, just posted a theory. I think she's using it for leverage, that's all. I am not on either one of their sides. What I know is that cult is some scary shit and regardless of who or what is happening, Katie Holmes needs to watch herself. CO$ are some shady fuckers. If you don't live near their fuckery then you don't know just how bad they are (unless you are a Google Queen like Evil_Cupcake).
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Submitted by Lucifer_Sam on Mon, 07/02/2012 - 10:37am.
Submitted by rukiddingme on Mon, 07/02/2012 - 10:09am. I don't believe Tom is gay.
I don't believe he is either.
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Same here. He's a high-strung type A personality.
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I don't know if anyone read Rob Lowe's account in VF a few months back of meeting a young TC when they were all teenagers and going through the auditioning process for The Outsiders? They were all flown to NYC and put up in a hotel. It's a great read because actors like Swayze, Matt Dillon & Thomas Howell were also auditioning.
Anyhoo, this was one of TC's first roles after Taps, in a movie directed by Coppola. Lowe describes him as being ferociously focused, crazy intense and amped up beyond belief: Doing hand springs around the room, for example, when everyone else is just hanging about.
He also, upon arriving at the hotel in NYC made a big deal about loudly calling his agent, Paula Wagner in front of the others, to complain that he wasn't getting his own room but had to share with another young actor. I guess she told him to suck it up.
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Tommy Girl may be the dad, biological or not, but he's hardly been raising her, staying up at night, feeding her, etc. The guy is a workaholic, who works back to back. He gave an interview where he said movies are shot 7 days a week for 15-17 hours a day. Yes, he has to work, but HE works non-stop. His mother and sisters are raising his two other kids.
Re Submitted by Juniperjump on Mon, 07/02/2012 - 10:27am.
I agree. Whether anyone likes it or not, TC has been raising that kid for 6 years and loved her. I don't know how him being the bio-dad or not can change the facts. Fatherhood -like parenthood- is not just being able to shoot sperm.
It's about caring, raising, feeding, laying awake at night when the kid's sick,reading stories, playing legos,you name it. Go tell any adopting parents if they're the real parents and see the result!
It really makes my skin crawl when people are saying they cannot wait for KH to announce TC isn't the dad. Because, by all counts, he is.
Id still rather hit tom cooze that katie holmes.he is still hot...
I swear one of these days one of Tom's gay lovers will leak a sex tape, but people will still refuse to believe Tommy Girl only likes peen. This is one area where men (gay men) have it a lot harder than women.
Submitted by Juniperjump on Mon, 07/02/2012 - 10:27am.
Even if Cruise isn't the bio-father - he's her father. He's raised her and at the least he would have adopted her.
If it was Johnny Depp, or anyone else for that matter, the sex-starved housewives, lonely old spinsters and turncoats here would be saying the same thing. But because it's Tom, they're foaming at the mouth praying for Katie to get full custody and cut Tom out of Suri's life.
Controlling assholes will suck the life out of you. Katie has aged 10 years in 6, and this is a woman who has nutritionists, trainers and stylists and possibly Botox and whatever else all at her hands... It doesn't surprise me Tom claims to have been blind sided. First, he's probably lying to look like poor me. Second, control freaks and egomaniacs rarely see what's going on with anyone else. They have no clue if someone else is miserable. Life is only about them.
Oh and another thing. I worked in domestic law in California and when you file for divorce, there are two boxes to check: (1) Irreconciable differences and (2) incurable insanity! You do the math!
Submitted by Lucifer_Sam on Mon, 07/02/2012 - 10:37am.
Submitted by rukiddingme on Mon, 07/02/2012 - 10:09am. I don't believe Tom is gay.
I don't believe he is either.
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Same here. He's a high-strung type A personality.
The "rumors" have said that Tom had a low sperm count and wasn't capable of fathering a child. Nicole allegedly had a miscarriage at three months. Along comes Suri!
Suri is the victim here. I justly hope that her mother Katie has a backbone to deal with the Scientology nuts and has her family at her side.
Oh well, I am fortunate. I live in Maryland, our power is on, altho a tree fell on my car Friday night, no damage!
He might get some time with Suri if he helped raise her but not like being the bio dad.
My ex wanted 50/50, so I went in filing 50/50 (I was the petitioner) because he's fucking too exhausting to fight and it wasn't going to help our son in the least. He'd fight for a damn toothpick if he could. So I gave him everything. I mean literally everything in the way of cash, property etc.. no child/alimony support.
Sometimes you just hit E on the drama tank and say fuck it.
Submitted by rukiddingme on Mon, 07/02/2012 - 10:09am.
I don't believe Tom is gay.
I don't believe he is either. I think that he is just an extremely tightly-wired cyborg who finds it impossible to be "out of character" for even one second, and is just not interested in relationships or sex. But he has an image to uphold which requires being seen as approachable. When people see a man who isn't interested in relationships, or who is single for long periods, the first thing they assume, for some weird reason, is that he is a closeted gay.
Throwing a theory out there *puts on tin foil hat* She asks for full custody, he fights it thinking she won't expose the sham and then she throws the DNA card down, writes a tell-all and Dlisted whores start a book club on Facebook for it.
Am i the only one who thinks this is for that "rock of ages" shit?! Btw,i love that all this divorce shit is going down! Cant wait to see him talk about his relationship with "kate",as he calls her,now! Lol he is such a fucking mental case! Why would katie be afraid of this little shrimp? Fuck tom cooze!
Even if Cruise isn't the bio-father - he's her father. He's raised her and at the least he would have adopted her. So I don't see how that would effect any outcome of these proceedings.
I don't think Cruise is gay either. To be honest, the vibe I've always got from Cruise is that at some point in his youth he was sexually assaulted. I'll even go so far as to say that I've thought that the sexual assault was perpetrated by a woman. But of course, in CoS you don't talk about that stuff - you just bury it. You mix that in with a person that's got a controlling personality anyway and with the mega-celebrity lifestyle where you actually do get your way almost all of the time and it's just a recipe for psychosis IMO.
Yes, Katie made a HUGE mistake by getting involved with that controlling freak, but the point is she's come to her senses. I think a big part of the decision to leave, was seeing how Scientology was going to affect Suri. Can't cry over spilled milk. Have to keep moving forward. I'm sure Tommy Girl will get tons of support if he ever decides to leave that cult.
I don't believe Tom is gay. I think Katie got completely caught up in the whole idea that "Tom Cruise" was so into her, and she looked past all the obvious signs this was not a good person to get involved with. I think she really loved this guy & was completely enamoured with him in the beginning, but I would guess that he is VERY controlling, & especially with someone as young as she was when they first met. It's become very apparent in the past couple of years, anytime she's been photographed, she seems miserable. I mean, really miserable. I don't believe he didn't know something was up, unless he is such an egomaniac that he really believed that he could continue to control her every move & she didn't have the nerve to break free from it. The sad reality is, they have a child, & she is the one who will pay the highest price for her parent's splitting up. All anyone has to do is look at Connor & Isabella, Tom's adopted kids with Nicole Kidman, & you will see how powerful this guy can be. It seems those 2 kids had very little to do with their mother after Tom dumped Nicole. I hope that doesn't happen with Suri, as I think she is far better off living with Katie, but I agree that unless Katie can prove Tom is an unfit father, she's not going to be able to stop him from having time with Suri. Their prenup will also have an impact on how a lot of this plays out, I'm sure.
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Also, how does she think she can get sole custody? Don't get me wrong, I love that she's trying because this is going to get DELICIOUSLY ugly, but he would have to be a pretty uninvolved father for a judge to go for it.
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That's not true at all. Sole custody to the mother with visitation rights for the father happen ALL the time. Doesnt matter if you're the worlds best dad! The courts normally side with the mother as being the primary caretaker. As a child of divorce. Trust. If they find Katie unfit, mentally unstable, unable to support her child... well then maybe Tom would be granted full custody. He obviously has some pretty shady attorney's in order for Nicole to have been cut out of her childrens lives. We ARE dealing with crazy ass celebrities who are so above the law. I suspect with Katie's divorce atty father, no such bullshit will take place with Suri. Joint custody would only work if they agree to live within the same area. Flying a child from one state to another every 3 days , certainly wont go over well with the courts. Good luck Tommy boy! I'm still scratching my head on how and why he ended up with Connor & Isabella.
Re: that FF link
Chris Klein, sorry to say, is one UGLY motherfucker.
Submitted by Juniperjump on Mon, 07/02/2012 - 9:16am.
I am not really supportive of the sudden switch the masses seem have taken on Katiebot.
DON'T WORRY THEY WILL SWITCH AGAIN IN A WEEK
There is some other CO$ freak who may have fathered Suri and I'm throwing his hat in. Suri looks so much like Tommy Davis it made me gasp the first time I saw him.
http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=316325&p=4365234
Submitted by Juniperjump on Mon, 07/02/2012 - 9:16am.
And if that child isn't Tommy Girls?
*looks at collage of Katie pregnancy photos*
Submitted by kate773 on Mon, 07/02/2012 - 9:28am.
Submitted by parissucksliterally on Sun, 07/01/2012 - 9:56pm.
Have either one of you read "Sex with Kings"? I hear it's fab.
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My obsessive fascination is in your imagination.
Submitted by parissucksliterally on Sun, 07/01/2012 - 9:56pm.
GG, The Six Wives of Henry the VII was great....I am fascinated by that period of history though.
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Do you mean Henry the VIII? I love that period in history too, fascinated by that whole story. Did you ever read any of Phillipa Gregory's books? She wrote "The Other Bolelyn Girl". I read the one she wrote for the period immediately afterward, "The Boleyn Inheritance". It follows Jane Boleyn. Its excellent. I have a book I stole from my father, its basically an encyclopedia of all the British Kings and Queens. Its great.
I am not really supportive of the sudden switch the masses seem have taken on Katiebot. While I am glad that she has finally seen the light in regard to Tommie and his CoS crazy, the fact is that she's brought a child into the world with the nutter when everyone else on the planet could have told her it was a bad idea. Any choice she makes now will only MITIGATE damage, not prevent it, to Suri. The poor thing is either going to not have her father in her life because he's a crazy loon (unlikely given his power and influence) or she is going to have him in her life and it's going to be a constant battle between the Cruise and Holmes camps for what influences and shapes her mind and personality. Either one is going to SUCK for that little girl. Just MAYBE at some point everyone should decide the being a good parent BEGINS with who you chose to have a child WITH.
I guess I picked the wrong time to take a partial hiatus from reading this kind of stuff--lots of things happening the past couple of months, whereas for a couple of years or something it seemed like gossip was getting very dull. Then again, maybe I'm wrong, since I haven't yet bothered to backtrack to look at a lot of the stuff.
And also, over nine pages of comments?? Figures I'd also pick the moment when people actually really start commenting on here again.
Submitted by Oddly_Titillating on Mon, 07/02/2012 - 7:12am.
Confused on something...
Katie supposedly caught Princess Tommy off guard when she filed for divorce, but whenever he has come to NYC over the past few weeks he doesn't stay at their apartment? I would think that means he knew something was goin' down.
Also, how does she think she can get sole custody? Don't get me wrong, I love that she's trying because this is going to get DELICIOUSLY ugly, but he would have to be a pretty uninvolved father for a judge to go for it.
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1. He's been staying in hotels. So several websites have reported. She moved out of their NYC apt and has her own place.
2. She filed in NYC because NYC is a not a fault state meaning, she can use testimony such as claims of emotional abuse, brain-washing, parental alienation syndrome, sabotage, and manipulation, etc, and the judge can make custody decisions based on the best interest of the child. Tom Cruise will likely try and get the case moved to California.
Wow, they are spinning it HARD against the $cientos!
Lots of talk about how they're worried that they'll kidnap Katie and how crazy Tom can be. I'm giggling like a madwoman.
Local news this AM is all over the Katie Scientology story. They're slamming the Scientos!